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| 會議時間 |
2024-10-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請僑務委員會委員長徐佳青報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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報告委員會．初期委員9人．已足法定人數好我們開會．請議事人員宣讀上次會議議事錄 |
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立法院第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第8次全體委員會議一事錄時間中華民國113年10月24日星期四上午9時1分至12時58分地點紅樓森林一會議室出席委員羅美林等11人列席委員賴士寶等17人列席人員國防部部長顧立雄及所屬人員主席林昭吉委員易軍報告此項一宣讀上次會議一事錄決定確定 |
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二、邀請國防部部長報告國軍無人機運用現況與未來發展機會及挑戰．並就協助中科院推動民雄航太及無人機產業園區的開發作業進度及概況．並備質詢。．國防部部長顧立雄及軍備局局長林文祥報告委員盧美琳等18人質詢．均由國防部部長顧立雄．副部長徐延普．全民防衛動員署署長白潔龍．總督察長是總督察長張元勛． |
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空軍司令部參謀長王德陽及國家中山科學研究院院長李世強等即席答覆決定一登記質詢在場委員均已發言完畢報告及巡打結束二委員口頭質詢未及答覆或要求提供資資訊請國防部與二周內已書面答覆本會全體委員並複製本會委員令指定期限者從其鎖定宣讀完畢好請問在場委員對於上一次的會議意思錄有遺漏錯誤或需要更正的地方 |
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沒有的話我們議事錄確定請議事人員宣讀報告事項報告事項：邀請僑務委員會委員長徐佳青報告業務概況．並備質詢宣讀完畢好我們先叫今天與會的委員那個陳冠廷委員還有羅美玲委員另外今天列席的官員有委員長徐佳青 |
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還有副委員長呂元榮主任秘書張亮明綜合規劃處處長郭淑珍僑民處副處長嚴肅榮你們處長出國嗎出國事前給我事前可以給個請假單還是怎麼樣比較好一點好不好請坐好僑教處處長黃振傑僑商處處長王偉戰 |
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僑生處處長王怡如秘書室主任邱惠燕人事室主任楊志傑主計室主任林秀燕資訊室主任白忠光政風室主任楊尊仁法規會專委徐又林僑務通訊社社長吳曉竹 |
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你們現在是專責社長嗎?專責社長,OK好我們財團法人海外信保基金董事長林保錫財團法人海華文教基金會執行長榮佑娥董事長在海外,下次如果主管管不再出席事前給召委一個假單通常都會尊重公務,但事前給比較好,好謝謝來 |
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本日會議邀請僑務委員會徐佳青委員長進行業務報告並備質詢我們現在請徐委員長上台報告王教偉羅委員還有沈伯陽委員在座各位先進今天 |
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非常榮幸能夠受邀來到大院進行業務報告今天的報告將分為前沿海外情勢與僑務工作開創僑務新友以及布局行銷全球最後結語四個段落請各位委員指教那在此也特別先感謝委員的關心與提醒非常有助於本會精進各項的業務那 |
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首先在今年有機會繼續在新內閣團隊來服務我們除了在既有的政策上擴大基礎外也在思考如何繼續精進達成立足台灣布局全球行銷全世界的願景藍圖那麼台灣作為民主的最前線即使不斷的面對各項的資訊經濟武力的 |
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三戰威脅之下仍然能夠以第一島鏈、產業鏈、民主之鏈、三鏈的應對讓台灣得以朝人工智慧科技之島的目標來邁進 |
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那麼針對我們海外情勢與僑務工作部分以上分幾點來跟各位委員進行說明首先是針對我們在僑界協助臺灣與國際接軌方面那麼近年來僑胞都非常支持臺灣參與國際組織無論是WHO或是ACAO |
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委員會委員會委員會 |
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臺灣民主成果臺灣民主成果臺灣民主成果臺灣民主成果臺灣民主成果臺灣民主成果 |
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注意觀察到本會橋界的一些加入國際組織的活動其次中國對橋界的統戰手段是越來越多元面對橋界的統戰威脅更是本會需要高度注意之處所以包括近期國慶慶典剛結束今年以來我們有特別注意到比方說在菲律賓 |
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1254.498 |
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委員會主席 |
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1270.316 |
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1293.13 |
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針對各種假訊息傷害橋界對臺灣認同方面從國際評比跟各項專業研究指出臺灣是在全球受到境外假訊息攻擊最嚴重的國家連續11年名列第一個受攻擊嚴重的國家因此海內外僑胞一起攜手面對資訊 |
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1295.812 |
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1298.938 |
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假訊息或是認知作戰已經刻不容緩第5項是針對 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
1303.799 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
1329.024 |
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新的產業鏈重組所造成的新一波移民現象那麼近年來臺灣有非常多大型企業前往海外設立分公司那麼同時呢也有不少原本投資中國的橋台商一轉往東南亞北美洲以及印度等地投資形成新的一波橋商的移民那麼在這一部分呢是一個新的情勢發展那麼其次呢最近的 |
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1332.825 |
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1342.371 |
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新的資訊是我們本年的國慶總共有高達4600多名報名那麼最終有反台進行報到的有4140名的僑胞那麼有將近4000人都有參加國慶晚會及慶祝大會的活動那麼這一次我們也特別邀請了34家旅行社規劃了162條路線提供僑胞 |
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1361.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
1366.166 |
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新的僑務工作以及行銷全球的相關布局以下僅就6個部分來跟委員進行說明首先是在今年9月10號、11號 |
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1386.115 |
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1398.07 |
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12號幾天所召開的僑務委員會議此次會議共有來自167名僑務委員及海內外的列席代表出席也獲得賴總統及蕭副總統都親臨現場致詞以及參加閉幕典禮 |
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1405.714 |
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1419.505 |
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這個會議過程非常順利而且也充分討論那麼僑務委員也多次表達對大院立法院的感謝因為歷來大院都對於僑務委員會議有高度的重視 |
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1422.81 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
1451.205 |
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那麼在僑務委員會議的這個過程當中呢我們特別有進行各項的國事建言那麼也邀請到各部會的代表及產官學員的單位能夠列席共同進行討論那麼本次的討論相當的熱烈有非常多的建議以及意見表達我們也會這樣彙整那麼在建議與討論的部分呢我們總共分成九個不同的 |
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1452.586 |
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1473.146 |
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政策議題,讓委員們可以分組進行相關的討論。其次,針對擴大服務政府的量能方面,持續與政府溝通。這部分,我們特別依循我們行政院在照顧以及發展的雙主軸上,用行動以及服務的方式來傳達 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].start |
1475.888 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].end |
1498.34 |
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我們對僑民的政府的關注以及溫暖那麼在持續這個部分呢我們除了即時的使用數位的傳播科技那麼也打造多元的訊息平台我們現在的6加1平台基本上都是官網那透過這些平台可以無時差的快速傳遞各項的海內外訊息讓僑界即時的掌握正確的資訊 |
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1505.748 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
1511.059 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
除此之外我們也用行動積極的跟各界僑界來進行 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].start |
1514.551 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].end |
1533.725 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
沟通、對話以及活動,包括今年以來本人從5月份出席到英國、荷蘭、挪威等地,除了出席歐洲台商會的活動、青商的活動,也首度造訪非洲奈及利亞,舉辦了座談會,充分了解我們橋台商在海外發展的 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].start |
1538.608 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
1538.648 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].start |
1555.954 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
1570.778 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
連續三個月在菲律賓、越南、泰國等地都有風災造成我們在當地的橋台商有部分的損失我們也都祭出專案來透過海外信保基金輔導我們的橋台商盡力的恢復他們的營業 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].start |
1576.279 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
1593.825 |
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目前我們6加1的社群平台是除了原本的僑務電子報以及官網之外我們在新的社群網路包括YouTube、Facebook、Line、Twitter、Instagram |
| transcript.whisperx[32].start |
1593.985 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
1594.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
臺灣的各項訊息傳遞到海外 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].start |
1620.063 |
| transcript.whisperx[33].end |
1623.046 |
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第三大項是針對行銷,促進我們台灣的華語文的教學,持續的鞏固橋校的營運本會自2021年開始啟動本專案以來,持續的在各個橋區讓橋校逐漸轉型 |
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1641.787 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].end |
1642.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[34].text |
臺灣華語文學習中心臺灣華語文學習中心 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].start |
1661.989 |
| transcript.whisperx[35].end |
1673.768 |
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希望目標能夠達成100所這是我們第一階段的目標那我們也持續在檢討下一個階段第二階段是不是擴大在其他包括大洋洲加拿大等國來辦理的活動 |
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1677.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
1706.016 |
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在行銷方面我們特別在過去有跟部分的這一些跨國公司也主動去尋找合作的機會因此從今年開始我們有跟美國加州北加州的google開始開辦了這個華語科技專班那麼至今已經進行到第二個學期也受到google的這些工程師以及 |
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1706.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].end |
1706.936 |
| transcript.whisperx[37].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].start |
1728.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[38].end |
1745.258 |
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主流學校的教師以及臺灣華語文學習中心的教師都返國來參加演習活動那麼今年呢美國又有另外的四團法國有三團分別是這些主流教師帶著他們的學生來臺灣參訪這個都是我們在過去兩三年推動臺灣華語文學習中心以及組建主流教師的這個相關這個活動 |
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1758.507 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].end |
1758.547 |
| transcript.whisperx[39].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].start |
1782.768 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].end |
1799.605 |
| transcript.whisperx[40].text |
接下來第4個字針對著有關於臺商在深耕發展的部分如何來擴大經貿的實力那麼這一部分第一個我們在過去針對著歐洲的部分 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].start |
1802.165 |
| transcript.whisperx[41].end |
1816.134 |
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近三年來可以說加強了非常多這方面的聯繫,所以我們包括在立陶宛、義大利等國,還有阿聯酋、印度、帛琉都成立了新的台商會,希望能夠加強這個世界性的一個聯繫。 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
1818.916 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1821.318 |
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配合僑台商,可以做各種交流跟鏈結。除此之外,我們持續發展,配合國家的重大政策,開辦各項研習活動及專班,包括有數位資安、十三團、邀訪團,淨零碳排、ESG等等的研習活動。 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1841.437 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1841.457 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
．述 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1858.341 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1869.255 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
除此之外我們也在近年來持續的透過我們的輕商選拔的活動以及精品獎的選拔來促進所有的商業的發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1874.842 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1890.993 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
至今在全球已經選拔超過600位卓越的橋台商以及青商也建立了平台持續的也將海外信保基金的相關方案提供給他們瞭解跟運用到113年9月底為止目前有承辦了257件總共的融資金額是1億8688萬美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1904.882 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1932.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
第5項是針對僑生培養方面本會從10年前開始試辦3加4計畫以來到目前為止3加4的產學合作專班4年制的產學合作專班以及海青班等等都有繼續優化的來開辦這些課程也受到僑界非常大的肯定因此在今年度 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1933.237 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1952.798 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
一百一十二學年度的專班學生統計已經高達一萬一千六百二十四人那麼產系專班從去年前2022年前年開始本來只有兩千四百八十四人那去年已經提到 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1953.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1956.243 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
已經升高到4069人那今年度我們更錄取高達6323人那目前已經到9月底為止來報到的有超過5000多人那麼我們會持續的在這個基礎上來發展 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1969.139 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1977.184 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
那麼四年制的產學合作班也是從原本的52人上升到去年的295人到今年已經超過1000人所以都有非常高度的成長的這個趨勢那我們也提供各項的獎助學金幫助這些可能是親韓家庭或者成績特別優異的學生能夠爭取他們來到台灣受到更多的這個培訓跟教育 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1995.576 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1996.697 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
同時,從去年開辦的畢業博覽會,去年我們是只有在臺北辦理一場實體的。 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].start |
2017.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].end |
2017.774 |
| transcript.whisperx[51].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].start |
2032.824 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].end |
2032.924 |
| transcript.whisperx[52].text |
主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].start |
2053.686 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].end |
2055.648 |
| transcript.whisperx[53].text |
至今56862人是通過評點制合可留在臺灣工作的其中僑生是佔了18912人 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].start |
2069.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].end |
2082.288 |
| transcript.whisperx[54].text |
這不是人次是人在這邊跟委員說明最後一項我們是要針對海內外的青年交流向下扎根由於近年來我們的移民已經有非常顯著的這個 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].start |
2084.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].end |
2084.369 |
| transcript.whisperx[55].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].start |
2106.274 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].end |
2111.115 |
| transcript.whisperx[56].text |
聯合國內青年有機會透過橋界到海外去歷練瞭解世界的變化也對國際社會有更大的一個交流跟參與的機會另外我們也同樣的也辦理了國內的相關活動包括我們也邀請海外的青年返台參加英語服務營的活動 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].start |
2133.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].end |
2133.579 |
| transcript.whisperx[57].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].start |
2149.966 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].end |
2150.186 |
| transcript.whisperx[58].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].start |
2166.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].end |
2174.569 |
| transcript.whisperx[59].text |
僑界非常支持很多父母表示他們的17歲的孩子有了這樣的一個培訓的協會來幫助他們尋找自己的認同有團體的一個群組的學習成長對他們在文化教育以及個人的身心的提升上面領導能力的提升都有顯著的幫助 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].start |
2194.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].end |
2196.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[60].text |
這個已經從過去到現在培養了8000人次 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].start |
2198.502 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].end |
2220.717 |
| transcript.whisperx[61].text |
除此之外,我們有海外的青年搭橋計畫今年首度破2800個台灣的優秀大學生來報名到目前為止,因為每一次我們都只能招收有限的人數以今年的規模來講,我們招收60人,2800人來爭取說實在是非常激烈 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].start |
2225.88 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].end |
2231.082 |
| transcript.whisperx[62].text |
那我們也看到這些學生的優秀優異的表現所以我們也持續在這個基礎上發展各項的交流計畫除了原本這60位同學可以去海外以外我們看到這些沒有入局的同學我們也持續擴大希望讓他們有機會包括我們在北美洲的臺灣醫師人協會反臺進行所謂的國際研討會因此我們也安排國內來報名我們這個計畫的 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].start |
2253.231 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].end |
2253.311 |
| transcript.whisperx[63].text |
委員會主席 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].start |
2273.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].end |
2279.712 |
| transcript.whisperx[64].text |
除此之外,我們也在國中小部分持續的開辦練練台灣計劃。去年分別成功媒合了312位學生,今年有350位學生。這個計劃也非常受到海外的家長歡迎,他們是短期的在台灣的一般中小學就讀。這個計劃我們持續的會來擴大辦理。 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].start |
2297.518 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].end |
2312.09 |
| transcript.whisperx[65].text |
最後結語就是我們會持續的向下扎根那僑務工作如果沒有第二代第三代的往下延伸將來的發展一定是受到極大的瓶頸因此我們在 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].start |
2314.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].end |
2314.552 |
| transcript.whisperx[66].text |
請各位委員指教,謝謝大家 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].start |
2335.592 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].end |
2356.897 |
| transcript.whisperx[67].text |
好謝謝委員長委員長請回那我們現在開始進行詢答今天詢答本會委員6加2分鐘非本會委員4分鐘10點半發言登記截止那如果有委員要提臨時提案請在10點半前提出11點左右本席會試詢答狀況進行處理首先請羅美玲委員上台諮詢 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].start |
2365.833 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].end |
2369.136 |
| transcript.whisperx[68].text |
謝謝主席有請徐佳青委員長委員長請委員長早安委員長早安委員長本期今天想就這個三家市產學專班的一些狀況跟委員長做一個探討那產學專班開辦到現在已經有10年了可是這10年其實賦品是不斷 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].start |
2395.214 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].end |
2399.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[69].text |
那其實我們這項專班的這個設立最主要是培養僑生的一些專業技能那以目前台灣人力缺乏的狀況之下我們本來是希望說他們畢業之後能夠繼續的留台那進一步成為符合我國產業 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].start |
2411.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].end |
2412.152 |
| transcript.whisperx[70].text |
語言是最大的問題 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].start |
2430.107 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].end |
2446.854 |
| transcript.whisperx[71].text |
根據三家市僑生專班的招生簡章對於申請學生的要求是必須具備華語文能力測驗A1以上的標準可是我們都知道A1其實就是一個入門基礎的等級那如果讓這些學生進到學校去聽一個比較 |
| transcript.whisperx[72].start |
2448.574 |
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2448.834 |
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委員會主席 |
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三家式產學專班 |
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其實就是一個高中一年級的這個年齡嘛那其實他們在聽的方面其實有很大的這個問題所以我們發現說像過去其實有一些學生他們也來澄清到辦公室來澄清所以我們也收到一些教學單位的一些意見 |
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主席 |
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那再來因為三家市他們一進來其實就是要輪掉實習嘛三個月在學校三個月在在這個產業端那對產業端的廠商來講也是覺得非常的吃力因為在孩子來實習的時候完全聽不懂他們在講什麼所以在實習方面其實呢也是非常的不扎實那像之前我有看到一個報導就是有一位同學到這個長照機構去做實習可是呢跟護理師還有跟這個阿公阿嬤都沒有辦法溝通所以就 |
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委員會議員 |
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委員長像之前我也討論過就是說像孩子們來台灣念書其實這個語言方面在他們的母國是不是要必須要先做一定程度的加強那我所了解的話甚至有些華語文能力測驗都是偽造的為了要來念書是偽造的這個部分喔這個想請教一下委員長要如何克服呢 |
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委員剛剛所講的這些現象跟問題確實在過去幾年我們在現場教學現場有發現類似的狀況那也是為什麼我們必須要把很多的東西做一些調整跟改變那就語言的這一方面來說 |
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委員會主席 |
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馬來西亞和台北學生之外其他國家在不同的層次上 華語是有很大落差的過去我們在華校的設置上 因為其他國家有排華的相關問題以致於有些困難 但近年來我們開始想要恢復多一點的據點 |
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想要來台灣讀書的孩子可以在自己母國的時候就加強他的華語教育所以這個A1等級事實上委員說的對他們其實來參加考試的時候很多是背答案的那個就是來自母席班教他們的一些技巧所以為什麼我們要二次的面試面試換一個問法他馬上就答不出來問他說你耳朵在哪裡他就比眼睛 |
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如果這樣子問題就很大了對沒有錯所以這是為什麼我們必須用這個新的模式來進行那這樣的學生我們都會跟他說沒關係你今年沒有入曲但是你明年你好好學華語等到你有一個程度你再來台灣 |
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這個部分我們也都是在持續加強那因為教育部在明年開始他們會成立三個華語基地分別在菲律賓在印尼以及在越南三個國家那目前這三個國家這個教材是由本會來授權提供因為我們現在都是用雙語教材的模式而於這些國家他們沒有大量的華語基礎 |
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所以我們用雙語教材的教學這個來提升學生的學習力是有幫助的另外一方面在國內的部分我們也開始要強化就是國內的這些華語課程的老師他們過去只用傳統的教法教台灣本地生那當然會引不起 |
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臺灣整體的實習以及在學校的這個成績 |
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那所以這個部分我們是有精進的方案正在執行當中那委員所提醒我們的這些點我們也會持續來關注看看哪些部分還可以加強那華語的部分確實是如同你關注的這樣它是確實是關鍵之所在是那委員長請教一下剛剛你有提到這個海外的這個華語文的這個基地 |
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她是針對說要來上這個三家市僑生專班的學生不只那個全部外籍生也可以外籍生都可以參加那一定要經過這個基地的這個上課之後認證嗎是叫他們認證之後他能夠過來嗎還是說想要去上再去上會不會說這效果若只是說讓大家就是說我想上就去上那會效果會比較不好 |
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因為基地初步可能還是會先篩選一下就是讓有部分基礎的人先優先進來那去強化他的華語基礎那課程結束之後依著他要進行的各種不同專班他有些可能是參加這個教育部的新南向專班 |
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外籍生及僑生 |
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請教委員長像這孩子進來之後我們有沒有定期去學校了解說學校的教學品質還有學生他們在這個就學當中有沒有遇到什麼問題需要協助的我們有去了解嗎我們這部分有沒有去了解今年開始我們有定期的去發放問卷過去是沒有我們今年才開始 |
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過去都是只有詢問老師而已沒有直接針對學生但是我們每一年呢都會把學生的這個組織的領導人找來進行座談會所以今年開始我在想說竟然我們這個三家是已經走了四年一直都是畢業生留台的這個效果很差而且評價也不好所以我在想針對這個三家是我們委員其實沒有很差應該這樣講他如果有七年完整讀完留下來的比例都高達八九成 |
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106年是今年畢業嘛對不對今年畢業 |
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那我們所得到的數據就是說其實他進來的時候暨高端進來報到是1034人可是到了他完成三年的學業其實留下來只有64%去升暨專端嘛可是暨專端畢業的其實只有31%是今年113年今年的這個畢業人數所以我們比較105 104 103其實我們留下來這個也只有三成左右 |
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委員長徐佳青 |
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我們後來有做一個資料就是說我們看他如果真的完整的七年讀完因為他必須讀完七年他才能正式留下來工作那如果他沒有中間就離開的有絕大多數可能有學習的這個確實落差有一部分是因為他們全部七年都沒有假期所以他們想要回家的時候就變成被迫只能就離開學校了 |
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所以沒有這個休學制度對這些學生產學來說現在這個是我們正在積極思考的因為長達七年如果這些孩子不能有一段比較完整的時間去返家的時候他最後被迫他就是休學就是退學了這他們七年當中可以返家吧他們可以返家但是都是時間很短因為他們只能搭配我們最長的假期就是春節那春節就是一個禮拜到九天十天不等那對於這些海外的孩子來說他很希望說 |
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委員長您的意思就是說OK好那我們現在留下來是64%665人106年你也是說665人其實有八成是完成七年的學業是不是是這樣子的意思嗎是的是的所以那這樣子的話其實留下來的人八成的話其實也差不多四五百人左右 |
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委員我跟你的目標是一樣的我很期待 |
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感謝羅委員感謝羅委員謝謝羅委員 |
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謝謝主席,麻煩委員長。委員長,11月底在馬來西亞吉隆坡有亞洲台灣商會聯合總會的活動,這個會或者這個活動對我國的重要性在哪裡? |
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這個是全亞洲19個國家商會所聯合舉辦的每年一度的活動那他們一年會辦兩次的會議一次會在台灣舉辦一次會辦在總會長的所在國 |
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臺商在亞洲歐洲美洲其實賴總統講過經濟日不落國所以其實臺商在我們的僑務裡面我認為是一個重要的事務那吉隆坡馬來西亞又有另外一個意義因為馬來西亞在外交上跟臺灣坦白講我們還有很多可以努力的地方所以如果透過臺商的活動 |
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在馬來西亞不管是在經貿或者在實質的彼此的關係上能夠有些推展其實對台灣對馬來西亞都是好事所以我現在請問一下你們有沒有掌握到我們國內要出席的官員國會議員的人數大概多少目前有個別的來跟我們詢問但是還沒有正式報名對還沒有會診那有沒有計畫會診成一個團 |
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我們很期待外委會可以組成一個正式的團那這樣子的話我覺得你現在才問我怎麼處理我坦白講我聽說因為我們台商的會長在國會是江啟臣副院長所以我想這是超越黨派的因為台商也沒有黨派色彩就是我們台灣人在海外經商努力 |
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所以建他很重要那我倒是希望僑委會跟外交部這邊就我們的官員不管是經貿官員僑務官員或者是我們的國會層次的部分除了去參加這個商會的活動以外也可以促進一些台馬雙方可以交流的部分那我接下來要問比較進一步的東西了你能去嗎 |
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簽證有沒有問題跟委員報告我剛剛從馬來西亞回來對我剛剛去參加了兩個大會一個是上週末在這是good sign這是好事情是因為我們常常出席在某些場合某些國家會變成政府的官員他會不讓主官去有時候讓副手去那做一些政治上的他們的考量所以 |
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3245.759 |
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這一次吉隆坡的亞洲臺灣商會聯合總會委員長會親自帶隊是這樣規劃目前沒有意外目前沒有意外沒有任何打壓的情形還沒有聽說有這種問題我希望不要本席今天質詢完就有了 |
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謝謝委員關心我很期待委員外委會可以順利我知道我們外交國防委員會部分黨派好多位委員都會專程去利用一個weekend也不占我們上班的時間那去給不管是林凱明總會長或者是相關的台商給他們最強的後盾跟支持好下一個我要請教你的是我們澳洲我其實問了很多次 |
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臺澳關係很微妙我們跟澳洲其實人口差不多然後澳洲的地理位置剛好跟我們南北相反所以在氣候上是互補然後在產業上也互補它也是我們國家不管是天然氣重要的能源輸入國 |
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然後我們的鳳梨在遭受中國無理打壓的時候澳洲當年也開放了我印象100萬多少就是開放了我們去罐的那個鳳梨出口到澳洲所以臺澳在農業或者是銷商是有相當好的合作基礎 |
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那我們台灣有很多年輕人打工遊學等等選擇地點也是澳洲那也有產生一些問題需要我們駐外人員的協助那我一直在問一件事情當全世界注意到中國的滲透無所不在不管是海外公安或者是孔子學院所以從美國歐洲澳洲開始不讓孔子學院進入他們的體系裡面而他們還是要學華語文的時候台灣 |
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3357.721 |
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美國是聯邦政府公開推薦說你如果要學Mandarin台灣是一個good choice就是說他們正式推薦台灣可以來學華語文那所以在那一波美國聯邦政府對他們的公務人員的學習的獎學金是鼓勵來台灣學習 |
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3359.202 |
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3377.997 |
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歐洲也開始那個時候我就問了澳洲這個問題說為什麼我們在澳洲我們開設這麼多華語文學習中心到現在已經84所了我相信對你們工作力其實負擔蠻重的僑委會是一個資源不多業務遼闊的單位那為什麼澳洲到現在還沒有 |
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跟委員報告因為我們上一期的計畫是從2021年到2024年結束那現在要進行第二期計畫的撰寫那我們現在確實委員長期的關注我們有在第二期計畫把澳洲也拉入 |
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委員長我給你建議就是說 |
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這些業務除了是僑務除了是我們國力的展現其實語文是窗戶透過語言這扇窗可以看見台灣民主多元重視人權或者我們有我們的可以展現的國力的部分所以這是一個窗戶那當然就跟著外交的佈局在走 |
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在南太平洋現在是臺灣跟美國共同協力甚至加上日本在經營的外交那澳洲又是南太的領導型的國家所以澳洲設置語言中心你剛才講的紐西蘭啊南太平洋很多我們太平洋的好朋友都可以來這邊學習 |
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3451.574 |
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3468.449 |
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就你的估計澳洲的華語文學習中心我們僑委會有沒有一個工作的agenda設定什麼時候會來設立雖然說前4年剛剛我說的2024年以前這一階段是因為預算編列的時候只有框定美國跟歐洲 |
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但是我們下一個階段第二階段我們的中長期計畫我們要擴大不同的國家的時候我們會把它包進來但事實上我們今年到明年我們就開始做準備了就是說讓我們這些雙語教材開始提供給部分橋校有意想來申請這個台灣華語文學習中心設立的橋校或橋團的老師們讓他們提前瞭解我們這套教材的運用 |
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委員長當然你有你的工作進程我們委員會我希望了解一下我們的預算然後你們的明年度的計畫是什麼後年度的計畫是什麼那臺灣是AI的製造大國就是AI運用的排名40多吧 |
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那我們政府希望讓臺灣的AI運用去用AI能夠超越韓國跟我們的硬體生產匹配嘛那韓國現在是第6名40幾名要弄到第6名以前只有很多努力所以我是建議我們這一些華語文的學習中心我們海外的喬教各方面的其實AI的導入跟運用是一個不管是演算法APP那算力當國家級或國家級的 |
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是一個很重要是資料庫是所以如果透過AI輔導學習你們就會無遠弗屆是的那也可以收集資料庫建立屬於我們特色的AI那個叫主權AI是所以不管我們現在主要是華語文我希望未來看到你們透過AI的資料庫建構起來有人想傳教士想要來台灣想要熟悉台語是客語是原住民語是透過僑委會這個窗戶可以接觸到教育部建構的 |
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多重語言的學習這些AI的能量我希望在僑委會的工作報告未來可以看到這樣的事好的這樣好不好好的謝謝委員謝謝好謝謝委員長好謝謝第一位委員謝謝委員長下一個我自己好謝謝我們下一個進行詢答的委員是沈伯陽委員 |
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謝謝主席 有請委員長來 委員長蕭委員早好 委員長早那這個很高興今天能夠再跟僑委會討論一些相關的事項那這個今天比較不熱鬧今天隔壁很熱鬧啦希望我們不要再被這些噪音所影響那今天有兩個問題第一個還是僑界聯繫的問題另外一個是中國滲透的問題是 |
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一開始這個是我在4月的時候大概有問過就是在海外的台灣人可以做的事情那因為總統最近也成立了這一個全台灣這個全社會的韌性的這樣的一個委員會所以台灣尤其是以內政相關的這些相關盤點的業務也變得越來越多 |
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那4月的時候呢那時候我們有齁這個我記得那時候在海外也有提到就是這一個相關的這個民防訓練齁民防體系本來就很重要那其實海外台灣人也是蠻多可以做的事情是的那我記得那時候在立陶宛的時候有跟委員長討論過去年有這件事情齁那執訓的時候也問過說有在規劃啦所以呢這邊是我們那時候有想到一些可能在海外的台灣人一樣能夠協助當台灣今天陷入危險的時候能夠做的事情 |
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僑務委員會對這方面的規劃大概有哪一些委員我們會利用既有我們原本都在做的事情來升級跟強化比如說歷年來我們很多天災的時候海外僑界都會募款募資所以像這樣的這個聯繫的穩定 |
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主席 |
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委員會主席 |
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尤其因為近年來在海外中共的統戰手法確實是非常的多那所以我們這個持續性的包括這一次我們的這個僑務委員會議來自全球的僑務委員總共167個我們就開了兩門這個專題演講第一門就是如何辨識假訊息以及防止詐騙那第二門呢我們就是談到這個如何用 |
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委員長 |
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委員會主席 |
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主席 |
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來彙整謝謝委員長那剛剛我覺得提到有幾個點非常的重要就是關於資訊的散佈這件事情因為在這一個比如說戰爭爆發的時候有可能資訊是不流通的那我們需要把正確的資訊送給這一個送給國際社會那剛剛有提到就是說因為我們現在其實可能就要先做一些相關的也不能說演練但至少練習就是說資訊怎麼給他們他們怎麼傳遞我覺得這個機制一定要存在 |
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所以像這一個我們最近看到這一個2758號決議其實就是我們看到海外很多台灣人是站出來的那但是他們站出來的時候一定手上也是需要一些資料嘛比較需要一些論述嘛所以如果今天僑委會跟海外這個僑報的這個聯繫海外台灣人的聯繫資訊是很快的能夠到他們的手上然後他們也很快的能夠組織不管是上街然後還是呢去等廣告等等之類的這個機制如果能夠越做越快的話 |
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提到金融問題,如果台灣人要捐錢,會有崩潰的問題 |
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所以這一件事情要怎麼去建立有可能可以請專家也跟海外的台灣人講一下物流跟金融而且物流畢竟我們在海外很多都是商人嘛做貿易嘛所以他對物流其實非常的了解他可能也有長期配合的公司所以這一些他在關鍵的時候他可能會怎麼去request對方要怎麼去幫忙一開始可能就要有這樣的一些想法委員 |
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提示對我們來說很重要剛好我也想到幾個例子因為2020年因為疫情發生那我們由於要台灣CanHelp所以當時是我們把物資運出去所以當時運了一些防疫物資或者是口罩這件事情也讓我們的僑界大量的學習了怎麼樣快遞把物資匯整 |
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運送以及散播那所以這樣反向來想也是一樣的所以對我們來講這些一次又一次做台灣Can Help的事情事實上是反而對我們的這個組織聯繫是很有幫助的那還有歷年來的這個所謂加入國際組織的這些宣導活動也讓僑界尤其是向下扎根的說我們更年輕的這些台灣的這些 |
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有看到幾個就是今天這個好像比較 |
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2758號我今天跳過了因為剛剛有稍微提到2758號那就是說這個業務報告裡面有提到就是發揮草根的力量向國際爭取這個支持這個剛剛委員長有提到那我看到的蠻多都是跟廣告有關或者活動、論壇、遊行各式各樣都會有那剛剛有講到第二第三代這件事情因為現在第二第三代畢竟是在網路世界有時候跟他們來講是非常的重要 |
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對那中國其實很擅長做在網路世界的這個宣傳台灣去接觸各世界各地的網紅那現在很多尤其是像美國英國的網紅他其實認知到台灣這件事情所以他很願意甚至根本就不是有任何的花費那他可能親自去找台灣的一些比如說高中生大學生來做一些拍攝那其實僑委會可以作為一個橋樑是因為當他們有這樣的意願的時候有這個橋樑其實對我們來講會是一個很大的幫助因為 |
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委員跟您報告一下過去兩年由於我們經費拮据我們很多宣傳工作在政策面上我們也沒辦法擴大但是我們有想一些好的idea就是 |
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由於年輕次世代他們對於這些通訊軟體的高度運用所以我們現在都拜託他們說你們這個活動結束的時候你們要拍一個影片或者做一段什麼東西放在你們各自的臉書或推特上面強化去推播那這個我們事實上不花什麼錢然後我們會去選拔他們給他們一個獎那透過這樣的方式事實上一方面帶動了這些學生帶動了這些年輕人怎麼樣運用他們這些媒體的一個通路 |
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謝謝最後時間到了我稍微提醒一下就是我目前看到以海外的這個立場來講對台灣比較有認識的然後又是屬於次世代的最主要都是遊戲界遊戲界所以如果對遊戲界能夠有更多的接觸讓他們因為他們都知道在這個網路上遇到這些中國的玩家的時候要做什麼樣的一個舉動遊戲界對我們來講它的重要性如果他也可以透過變成我們 |
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讓大家知道臺灣現在處境的管道對我們是很大的幫助這個是一個非常好的提醒謝謝我們會來努力謝謝希望總預算能夠趕快過關我們就能夠做很多過去的事項感謝沈委員長謝謝主席謝謝沈博洋委員委員長請回那個沈委你剛講的是遊戲間遊戲界就是手機遊戲那個確認一下好我們接下來進行詢問的委員是林楚瑩委員 |
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謝謝主席 主席邀請委員長委員長來 慢慢來慢慢來沒有問題您委員早安委員長早喔我要首先先呼應一下就是今天早上這個王定宇召委所提到的台商確實對於現在我們台灣來講不論是經濟日不落或者是台灣日不落或是世界的台灣都佔了非常重要的一個位子喔 |
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像過去我也是因為來到立法院那麼出席了好幾屆的台商活動我才感受到就是其實台商尤其是所展現的台灣的實力非常的重要所以說像這一次這個有關於馬來西亞這個台商會的這個重要的活動我也會認為說其實它沒有任何的顏色 |
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委員會主委團台商之友會 |
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也組一團去到巴黎是非常的盛大是那麼我覺得這個都是有正面的意義當然對於所在國所展現出來的這種不論是台灣跟所在國的這個之間的關係一定是非常的重要我想委員長也非常理解尤其是您說您才剛從馬來西亞回來那麼是出席什麼樣的活動 |
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主要是我們70年的喬教在馬來西亞培養了超過10萬的學生這些留台的同學畢業後返回馬來西亞他們分別在各地組成了叫做留台同學會在全馬的部分 |
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委員會主席 |
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為什麼特別會讓徐委員長特別說一下的原因是因為我想 |
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現在過去大家可能對於僑委會的界定就是認為說這個僑民朋友在所在國但是現在其實會發現台商朋友也成為這個僑委會非常重要的一環那麼過去我主要呢這個暑假我比較多的時間花在歐洲所以剛剛講完了這個亞洲的部分我其實想回來的是看到我們目前歐洲的一個狀況我們來看下一頁 |
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就是歐洲呢現在單單2024年歐洲的各國包括歐洲議會就多次挺台我這邊現在記錄上至少7到8次也就是我們現在才來到10月底已經有超過7到8次國際友人為我們發聲而我們知道我們的前總統蔡英文也剛從歐洲回來但是我們在歐洲現在所面臨的狀況我知道僑委會經費有限看下一張 |
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那就是歐洲目前以我們海外的僑民在這5年我所看到的是歐洲他的增長率是最高的來到12.77%那麼這是僑委會給我的統計資訊要比亞洲美洲都來的高而大洋洲跟非洲是一種下滑的狀態但是我如果來看一下我們現在僑委會在112年的年報當中有美國有加拿大有亞洲 |
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但是呢感覺上歐洲的關注度是不是比較少呢那麼其實這一次小英總統前往歐洲所展現出來不論是法國或者是歐洲議會對他的歡迎又或者是這一次我們多位委員到歐洲的感受就是歐洲這樣的一個新興的整個勢力當中他對於台灣的重視不言可喻尤其是今天這個 |
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法國的軍艦還通過台灣海峽這樣的事情我們都可以充分的感受到就是歐洲現在對於僑委會來講是不是可以多放一點心思在這裡來看下一張就是目前我們不論是僑校的數量69所 |
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又或者是我們在這整體的僑效的預算當中還有就是我們非常關注的就是我們現在歐洲所分配到的相關的這些僑務委員僑務秘書法國兩位德國兩位荷蘭一位英國一位那平均說你一個僑務人員要服務8800位的僑民在預算減少但是僑民增加那麼接下來到底我們在推廣歐洲事務商或者是 |
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委員長 |
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這個部分我們是不是需要做一些整體的調整又或者是在新的年度當中有什麼新的計畫跟委員報告我們除了剛剛呈現的資料說我們在歐洲目前13個國家有18所華語文學習中心幾乎每一個國家的首都 |
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委員會主席 |
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委員長 |
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委員長 |
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委員會主席 |
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因為現在就是說僑委會的職務某種時候他跟外交部其實有一些模糊的地帶啦那麼當然我們的外交預算相對的會比僑委會的預算要來得高一些也許兩個部會之間如何來做一些搭配跟合作其實我知道現在外管都做得非常好彼此有互補的狀況但是在這裡當然我也認為說這個兩個部會之間雖然是我很感謝外交部因為很多地方我們有派駐秘書都是我們外交同仁在協助我們僑務工作 |
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好 那麼另外當然就是您剛剛提到的有關於就是企業到歐洲投資比如說像台積電下一張 台積電他其實現在在歐洲的部分他也有一些相關的投資或者是佈局其實我現在要請問的就是像這一次我有特別到德勒斯登 |
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那麼當然比如說熊本啦美國的亞利桑那或是華盛頓等等這些地區現在我們的台積電都在布局的同時其實德勒斯登現在也努力在建廠當中那麼其實不論是工程師或是前期的台灣的這些技術跟工程人員到了這些地區之後他們的包括工程師本人 |
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的健康醫療或者是家眷們的有關於教育醫療的部分不知道僑委會有沒有提供一些協助尤其是在德國我們都知道在歐美這個醫療是很貴的那麼教育的資源相對的剛剛前面委員有都提到不是那麼的充足那麼在這個部分有沒有給予前期的協助跟幫忙 |
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我們規劃在德里斯登希望說包括柏林整個這個德東地區除了能夠在設立台灣華語文學習中心之外當地的橋團的組織我們也想辦法把它做起來那我們也會派我們的駐地秘書多加強在這一方面包括設立這個橋校讓這個engineer的家庭呢他們孩子在 |
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華語學習上或就學上得到一些協助、諮詢這部分我很慶幸是我們剛剛在德瑞士登成立了一個新的組織都是蠻年輕的女性所組成的他們很熱心所以我們即便沒有派秘書我們也透過我們的僑團模式來提供相關的資訊給這些第一批到德國去的engineer |
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徐佳青委員 |
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謝謝主席 那我們有請這個徐委員長 |
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邱委員早安目前想先跟您請教就是我們的僑務委員大概有160多位左右但是這個名單它是被列為密等我想請問一下具體的原因是什麼由於我們在全球的僑務委員都是在當地具有一定的影響力聲望或者是有這個事業穩定等等的基礎事實上是 |
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4804.496 |
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中共最想統戰的對象那我們基於各自的保護也尊重他們個人的意願所以我們沒有把這個資料公開的放置在我們的網站上面也沒辦法外流這個基本上是基於保護他們的各自這樣的一個目的 |
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僑務委員希望公開僑務委員身份 |
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因為像有一些僑胞他們就有來反映說在這個名單沒有公開的情況之下他不知道自己所屬的僑居跟國家地區是否有僑務委員 |
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好就是說他們有些民眾他也想知道說我們這個地方的僑務委員是誰但是呢他沒有管道能夠知道那因為受聘的這些僑務委員他們在地方上就如您所說的都是熱心助人而且呢也積極參與僑界事務的人所以呢我們想要問就是說如果他有意願公開的人是否我們有機會就是說讓他正式的公開讓這個區域的民眾可以了解當然 |
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有擔憂的人 |
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比例時有沒有固定的僑務委員? |
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跟委員報告過去3年我們基於僑區人數的配比因為全球只有180名所以我們是依著僑民人數的結構來分配僑務委員的比例 |
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合比如三國基本上是一位去年應該說今年以前是比例十所以荷蘭就三年沒有僑務委員了所以趙倫的話今年我們在做準備的時候明年聘任的就是荷蘭的僑務委員但是基於歐盟的重要性我們會有額外的另外考量就是說我們除了 |
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固定比例的這個概念之外我們有保留20席也叫類似不分區的概念就是說要搭配著國家的外交或者特殊橋區的政策需求這就是我要跟委員長特別要來爭取的就是說因為和比盧他們三個是輪著然後但是比例是有他的特殊性我相信您非常清楚因為剛剛林委員也提到了歐洲對台灣的支持可以說是非常的多 |
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那歐洲呢在比利時就是歐盟跟這個歐洲議會的這個比利也是我國駐比利時代表處之所在所以當比利時如果沒有我們的僑務委員的話我覺得是相當可惜的因為如果比利時他有常駐的就是說不要跟何比盧一起去輪而是有常駐的這個比利時的僑務委員的名額的話 |
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那未來在不管在歐盟或是歐洲議會或者是我們自己的國人的部分的話都能夠有更多的這個協助他們在熱心公益上面而且呢就我知道也有在比利時很多的僑胞他們也是有意願能夠來爭取這樣子的一個名額的 |
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所以在這邊呢想要跟這個委員長來爭取就是說考量到歐洲議會跟歐盟的因素他就是在比利時所以在比利時我們希望能夠有固定的這個僑務委員那維持至少有一位的僑務委員的可能性不知道未來有沒有機會在什麼時候能夠做到 |
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我們最近這兩個月正好正在做討論跟檢討的時候那我們會考量委員的建議就是過去這三年確實我們比利時的僑務委員也協助我們在地很多跟歐盟關係的合作在當地一些僑團的聯繫或者是活動的籌辦都有很大的功能 |
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5076.011 |
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合比如三國因為人數上橋包不是非常多其實是荷蘭有4000多那比利時大概1000多所以我們把整個橋區併為是原來一席因為我們要超過5000個才能配到一席目前的狀況就是說雖然是輪到荷蘭荷蘭我們在明年一定會給他們一個僑務委員但是基於 |
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歐盟基於歐盟歐議會的關係我們會有額外剛剛我說的這個考量那希望說我們可以聽到好消息也在拜託這個我們委員長再繼續在這塊去做努力那另外一個問題是關於臺北橋效的部分是臺北地區因為歷史因素有非常多的華僑也有許多的橋效那多數的橋效雖然在泰國沒有正式的立案但是推動華文教育已經非常久了 |
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而且多數人他是欣賞中華民國政府的因為歷史的元素所以過去他們是很堅持這個正體制還有中華文化的傳統的教學所以僑委會歷年也投入了不少的預算在臺北的僑校那從105年蔡英文總統上任之後的一千兩百萬到兩千八百萬那我也很開心看到這個臺北地區的僑校的重視程度是提高的 |
| transcript.whisperx[192].start |
5159.266 |
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教材、硬體、補助費用等等都有,其中教材跟教師的聘用是最主要的花費。我們可以看到這一張表上面是我們僑委會補助太北地區的預算。所以說教材跟教師的部分,想要請教委員長的是我們教材是如何做選定的? |
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5181.312 |
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5196.223 |
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基本上我們每一年都會做一個預先的調查就是第一個了解學生有多少然後再來就是老師想要使用什麼樣的版本但事實上我們基於太北地區因為有泰文的學習我們是特別為泰國地區編一個泰文版的 |
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5202.067 |
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5220.839 |
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我現在繼續講因為時間比較不夠的關係因為我們發現有一個youtuber那個委員長看一下他有去訪問泰北的一間小學那校長說他們不是原本老師不會用拼音是用注音是特別看了青邁的孔子學院的線上教程才會拼音 |
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5221.559 |
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5237.194 |
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那這個校長也提到說2022年他們才開始走注音加拼音今年改成全拼音他們也展示了這個簡體的教材喔然後呢同一支影片我們也發現除了中文課之外他們是使用我們台灣的這個南伊書局的教材 |
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5237.914 |
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5253.346 |
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顯示說呢,僑委會可能是有跟這個學校有添購書籍跟輔助資資的費用那網路上面查到這些僑校呢甚至都有加入大陸設立的這個華人村的華文教師聯誼會那我想問一下就是說我們要怎麼樣就是因為我們跟孔子學校是不一樣的這個系統我們希望僑委會能夠贏過這個孔子學校推廣我們正式的正體制然後還有我們的這個 |
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5267.236 |
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5268.437 |
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委員我會在會後提供完整的書面資料給您參考 |
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5287.353 |
| transcript.whisperx[198].text |
謝謝徐委員 |
| transcript.whisperx[199].start |
5305.662 |
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5321.322 |
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臺北我們退府會在那邊有農場然後以前蔣爸在那邊的時候他過世的時候他們的親王還這樣辦期所以你們要跟退府會那邊多一些合作好 謝謝好 謝謝那我們接下來進行詢問委員是洪森翰委員 |
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5337.682 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].end |
5340.527 |
| transcript.whisperx[200].text |
呃謝謝召委喔那我想請那個徐佳青委員長 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].start |
5346.99 |
| transcript.whisperx[201].end |
5373.332 |
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委員長好我今天其實想就幾個其實我們在這個產息專班那其實遇到的實際的案例的議題來跟僑委會來討論今年的8月的中旬那有一位這個3加4產息專班的到台灣念書的僑生那他其實透過一個華僑的組織來向我們協助他其實到了一個北部的這個高職就讀不到幾個月 |
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5374.373 |
| transcript.whisperx[202].end |
5389.645 |
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事實上是來了第2個月就發生了對然後他其實就身體不適後來經過判定紅斑性狼瘡的問題我們這邊有講說某些罕見的疾病那他住進了ICU其實那時候的狀況已經幾乎是命在旦夕了 |
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5391.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[203].end |
5411.102 |
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這個狀況當然後來我們看到是因為我們健保法的規定其實在台需要居留滿6個月所以他其實來了這幾個月尤其是還沒滿6個月的前面的時間其實這個積欠下來的這個醫療費用其實大概將近七八十萬元 |
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5412.483 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].end |
5434.354 |
| transcript.whisperx[204].text |
那尤其但我想委員長其實也很知道其實就這個像3加4產期專班來台的這個僑生其實他們多半在他的自己的僑居地其實相對是設計地位是比較困難的所以其實這個是很大的負擔所以他們其實就會非常依賴我們這個僑生傷病醫療保險可是卻看到了一個狀況是這個這個我們的這個僑保這個僑生傷病醫療保險理賠的上限卻只有12萬 |
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5441.577 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].end |
5462.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[205].text |
這跟他實際在沒有健保期間所付出的醫療費其實看起來是有非常非常大的差距這讓他在經濟上面相對壓力非常非常的沉重委員長我想先請問你覺得這部分我們有沒有可以再把這個理賠上限可以再做一些調整的空間這當然涉及到保費可是我想問一下 |
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5462.987 |
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5472.101 |
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我們在我們在這邊有沒有一些檢討或修正空間尤其如果是對於像這樣子他可能比較經濟弱勢或家家境比較清寒的我們能夠怎麼做 |
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5473.016 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].end |
5476.377 |
| transcript.whisperx[207].text |
跟委員報告事實上我們對於親韓學生的部分我們是會額外的給他保費的補助那通常一般學生我們是一半一半那麼退時因為根據我們的健保法規範所有的人來台灣必須要居住滿6個月以上才有資格加入健保那所以前6個月的這個空窗期就由我們僑委會來進行僑保 |
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5500.225 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].end |
5518.826 |
| transcript.whisperx[208].text |
喬寶的部分因為他是一個大的團體保險團體保險的這個理賠上限就會有比較大的這個沒有那麼大空間應該這樣講確實我知道這個部分有一個困難但我們也會從根源去想就是說導致說因為我們在所有的僑生來台以前我們必須要做健康檢查 |
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5519.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].end |
5526.911 |
| transcript.whisperx[209].text |
那這一件案子其實是健康檢查出了問題因為我們未來會加強我們健康的這個檢查上面他有家庭的遺傳性疾病但是在這個檢查報告裡面完全沒有呈現那所以我們未來在這個健康檢查的前端我們可能要多增加幾項的詢問瞭解他的家族遺傳病史等等之類那因為他事實上是來台灣幾乎第2個月就發病 |
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5546.4 |
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5571.094 |
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委員長我要說的事情是說當然我在這段時間我們看到僑委會其實包括業管的主管及委員這個個案呢我們會另外來幫他協助就是說我們去透過募款的方式我們可能必須要透過這樣的社會救濟模式來進行處理因為大部分在這個18歲左右的孩子照道理如果他健康檢查報告是沒有特殊狀況的來台灣不應當會有運用到這麼多的這個 |
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主要是針對在這6個月的這段時間我覺得就保費的制度的調整我還是希望教委可以回去能不能再做一些檢討能不能再有一些特別處理的空間這部分麻煩教委好不好那第二個是我想要跟委員長討論到幾個事情其實接下來這件事情我自己認為是非常非常嚴肅的事情 |
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這段時間其實有人權團體跟好幾位僑生都來向我反映僑生他們進到台灣以後他們的護照跟居留證一到台灣就被學校給扣走了那甚至這就是在今年九月發生的事情其實坦白說我聽到這樣的案例我是蠻難接受蠻難忍受的現在這些學校他其實都是用怕學生把護照居留證弄丟然後就要把學生的護照給扣起來 |
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委員長你應該知道這其實已經在違法的非常違法的高度的疑慮狀況了是委員長你覺得 |
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過去確實這個狀況有發生在部分的學校裡面現在還在發生是那其實很多事情它是一體兩面因為早期曾經發生一些案例就是說他進來事實上是被仲介進來那移工的這個系統因為給他charge了很多錢那這個學生進來的時候就拿著就跑了有發生過不是沒有 |
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委員長 |
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委員長我們看一下幾個法規好不好下面一個這個在人口販運防治法裡面很清楚人口販運裡面的定義 |
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委員長其實是 |
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法規上的定義幾乎已經是人口販運了 |
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我想有兩個我們所知道的學校有曾經這樣的行為所以我們也確實去跟他們去函瞭解但是主管單位事實上是教育部的這個國教署 |
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我們也有跟國教署來反映這樣的狀況那現在的狀況是什麼但是這些僑生的主管其實是僑委會啊這些僑生要保護他們的是僑委會啊僑生是我們主管沒有錯但是學校的主管你們要保護的這個對象現在被用這種方式系統性的把他們的護照給扣下來啦 |
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這裏面我想我們第一個不支持學校做這種做法但是學生真的要拿回護照也不是困難的事情可能是部分的學生他在可能來台以前他有跟學校先借貸了所以學校怕他這一部分的借貸無法償還 |
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但是也不應該用這種手段來執行也不應該用這樣的手段來執行所以我們會來加強跟學校進行溝通委員長我要說如果還繼續在做這件事情我覺得這是一個非常非常不文明的手段再繼續做這件事情我覺得不管任何的理由 |
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徐佳青報告業務概況：完整會議 |
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我必須說這個事情其實已經引起一些國際的人員團體在注意這件事情了我認為其實這些學校如果他不願意停止這些行為的話我們在我們喬爾會跟他相關的契約相關的合約裡面我們應該做一些決定啊甚至這不是只是要這些學校把護照還回去而已啊這事情是要有法律責任的啊要追究他的法律責任啊 |
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不是我今天扣了然後我好有人來跟我要我就把你還回去然後我就假裝沒事了如果可以這樣的話那當然很多學校他都可以去做這件事情啊而且我們心知肚明他做這件事情的原因真的是在就學的關係嗎更多其實在勞動的關係裡面吧 |
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委員長 |
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委員長我要求一個月內清查我們下面所有的我們這個產系專班裡面所有的學校還有沒有類似的狀況如果有的他一定必須立即的停止不只返回不只返還而已甚至 |
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徐委員長 這個事情 |
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不能等閒視之沒有任何理由去扣人家旅行文件哪怕是金錢都不可以所以你要到年底其實本席是不接受的 |
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沒有沒有沒有 全面的也不應該到年底 學生在哪裡你們都知道嘛所以 因為之前有發生過了那現在還有扣旅行文件的 你們要用最快的速度 把它清查出來而且 那個不是勾肩 有扣旅行文件的該移送法辦移送法辦另外我們這邊也做個記錄 我們委員會出個文請監察院 人權委員會他們到各校區抽查 到各校區抽查 我們還是要外部機制去調查這個事情 |
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馬文君委員馬文你好 |
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委員長好 延續剛剛紅委員的問題這個部分因為是僑委會負責辦理進來的那學校也是僑委會媒介所以立即應該就請他們終止這樣的做法因為這讓人家想到聯想到我們有很多被騙到 |
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免電或者甚至其他地方的我們自己的年輕人我們自己的孩子他們就是這樣被扣的所以台灣怎麼會就這樣這不需要跟他們什麼什麼勸導或什麼他就是不可以所以這個應該立即就要做這個部分我們強烈要求剛剛主席也做了 |
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為什麼來念書的學生會先跟學校借錢?就你們掌握的資訊,為什麼? |
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我初步的了解有些學校大家在海外招生的時候他知道說我們是補助學費了但是第一期的生活費因為他還沒進入實習第一期的前三個月還沒進入實習不會有收入那還有個原因是部分家庭因為清寒到連第一張機票還買不起 |
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委員長我記得我們在談的時候我們的像這樣的一個專班的學生他甚至生活費其實是不需要付的 |
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沒有沒有沒有我們是說他的生活今天他現在的問題是在第一期因為第一期剛進來的兩個月三個月還不能進到實習現場特別找這樣的學生那來就已經有缺錢的狀況現在我們要回到我們這個但是這不是全面的是部分而已部分家庭比較輕寒所以我們 |
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委員長聽完我的話因為你如果是部分的學生有比較可能生活狀況不好的那他跟學校借貸也不會是全面的可是學校是全部的學生所以我也覺得不應該對 |
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所以不應該不是我們說還要會教育部為什麼要會教育部這個部分我們馬上就因為主管機關就是教育部那個不是主管機關的問題人是你們找進來的所以這個跟教育部已經沒有關係就這個部分而且就你理解掌握的狀況是少數有欠錢的 |
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學生那他為什麼會這樣缺錢而且才第一期的生活費還有包括機票錢為什麼去找這樣子的學生明明他來我們這裡念書的條件並不是真的感覺不是真的要念書的可是你卻是找這樣的學生這是我們在這裡強烈要求他馬上就應該要返還不然這樣的學校你不可以再用而且你未來的學生也不可以再到這個學校 |
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我們在今天的報告裡面有看到我們整個計畫尤其是這個部分就是說我們的海青班跟產學攜手合作的僑生專班這個部分在過去我們看到前兩次105年到108年 |
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那時候大概總經費這都是4年的計劃嘛總經費是3億8千4百萬左右 |
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一百零九到一百一十二年他的總經費是十億五千萬五千八百萬他的成長幅度高達漲幅高達百分之一百七十五是然後他增加可是他的計劃也增加六億七千多萬是我想請教一下一百零九年到一百一十二年那時候疫情發生比較嚴重的時候我們的這個招生的狀況都還是更好嗎因為他的他的 |
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金費的那個那時候還是有微幅增加有還有微幅增加那我們真正預算規模增加是從2021年之後我們是2022年到2025年這四年22232425這四年的中期計劃總計是36億 |
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那是我現在要說的嘛就是你112年到115年我們的計劃裡面變成36億你從不是是四年加起來36億越後面會越高我剛剛講的也是都是四年四年105年那個也是四年那個總經費是3億多嘛那你現在的四年是變到36億多了 |
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委員36億是分在4年 |
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我們看一下齁,你計劃招生,計劃要招生海青班4800人,然後產學攜手合作僑生專班要兩萬一千多人,他主要的目的是要累計留用的學士以上,像這樣的僑生專班嘛,對不對﹖是的 |
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那我們每年花這麼多在你們的計畫裡面他僑生專班要兩萬一千多人這個來源是什麼因為寫僑生專班啊對我們事實上目前的僑生人數不止這些還有一般大專生一般大專生大概就是專班的部分有三種專班嘛三種專班你的僑生專班 |
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委員長徐佳青報告業 |
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委員為什麼是這樣加總不是你回答我們的問題這樣子會比較大家會比較清楚對我現在要講因為一個學生是三加四的話念七年嘛那七年的前三年學費都是我補助的所以一二三年級會持續增加嘛這一年是兩千五年再四千變六千不要去講七年因為我講三年就好了一邊的 |
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我現在要說他的差異在哪裡你之前的4年的計畫只有3億多現在變成36億多的原因把這個原因講出來就好了原因就是學生人口數增加10倍 |
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主要在東南亞有7國 越南 印尼 菲律賓 緬甸 |
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柬埔寨馬來西亞泰國這7國為主7國的喬生他的認定身份怎麼認定我們早期是說他要提出他有什麼樣的文件但是這兩年呢我們認為這種沒辦法去驗證他文書的正確性我們現在是以華語程度有沒有達到A17他會講華語就是喬生的意思嗎 |
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我們現在是以這個來作為認定就是會講華語就是僑生的意思嗎是的所以我們從3億多的國家預算我們編列要讓他們來這裡念書然後還有產學合作我們的學生數是增加10倍是嗎是的 |
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可是不好意思歐主席現在我們先就這個部分你把那個2萬多人你預計明年要有2萬多人然後要用掉我們36億的預算明年是10億你是4年計劃第1年3億第2年5億第3年總計4年所以委員長不要再去講 |
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明年是多少我們現在看的就是四年四年之前就是四年三一多你現在四年三一多告訴我們所有的國人我們為什麼要編這樣的預算因為我們本來的對手是僑人對於我們培養人才跟未來的人才培育很重要你說培養人才你知道你的畢業人數110年從45% |
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實行津貼 |
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| transcript.whisperx[258].text |
實習今天是工廠企業給他們的還有服務的單位那這些單位他們為什麼要用這樣的人力這個部分跟我們剛剛一起討論好不好就你把人帶進來以後然後你扣了人家的護照然後他是怎麼樣的一個學習的一個狀況請給我們一份完整的報告 |
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僑委會 |
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委員長請 |
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陳委員你好委員長好委員這一次我們國軍有4000多個僑胞回國對那是義後的新高是那這個我們當然是很正面這是代表說我們有做對一些事情是我們還有一場活動書面報告有提到說中共的統戰 |
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推陳初心那還有什麼低價旅行團鼓勵僑胞附中旅遊然後甚至想要這個方式來去排擠我們來參加雙十過慶營造僑胞不想返台的假象當然沒有成功可是我看到我們僑委會他有一些方式就是針對他們用旅遊的方式 |
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我們也有一些反制的做法比方說是用i喬卡那用i喬卡來攜手旅行業者推動國旅我想請問一下這個成效你滿意嗎 |
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委員我們跟對岸的做法其實是很不一樣因為我們是自由民主的國家那我們是提供多元的選擇讓僑民跟僑胞回國的時候可以有更多選擇那我們是提供優質的這些旅行的路線 |
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加上我們也有補助那我們補助當然是一個象徵性的但是為了鼓勵國旅包括尤其是在4月3號的地震之後我們為了加強花東地區的旅遊我們甚至做更加碼這個20%的補助 |
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謝謝委員長這個我講你們的愛喬卡的一些好處就是特約633家商店攜手34家旅行社規劃162條的旅遊路線推動國旅可是我發現愛喬卡的官網搜尋旅遊景點這個非常凌亂阿他的網站的使用介面比方說我們來自嘉義嘛我搜尋嘉義他推薦的景區是嘉義海巡服務區你來嘉義要來我們的海巡服務區嗎 |
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理由是什麼 廁所可以解決廁所在哪裡這種擔憂應該不是這個理由啦當然不是這個理由嘛 那我們就改進嘛好不好 這就改進但是我怎麼會為了到一個去上廁所去洗澡的地方來到一個地方去觀光你去輸入嘉義你沒有阿里山沒有番路沒有竹崎沒有各大景點我們來嘉義的時候是去看阿里山嘛去看雲海嘛去番路的市集園嘛去大埔的珍武水庫嘛 |
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連結到各個官網的系統所以連結到這個 |
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那再來還是這個網路介面的部分 |
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邀請僑務委員會委員會長 |
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再來就是我們的這個華文學習研究這個部分 |
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這個其實全球學習中文的人口比例是在下降當中那當然在下降當中有很多原因我認為一部分是地緣政治就是現在基本上你去跟中國做生意就是很困難的那怎麼樣把學習華文這個東西跟去中國學中文就是把我們自己的品牌做出來我們當然是覺得很重要 |
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我們從學習的經濟學人的報導裡面有講他說大概2013年選中文的美國的人大概達到高峰但是2016年到2020年就是下降21%所以說在這個趨勢當中是大概減少31%委員長你怎麼看這個趨勢 |
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確實過去因為世界工廠在中國的概念很多人既進行投資因此有實用性的這個需求要溝通而去學了華語但中國雖然高度的在全球去做紅子學院這樣子的一個設置但事實上是在做大外宣跟統戰的機制這四年來已經被陸續各國都關閉了那關閉以後其實華語的學習人口的其實依舊在 |
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那麼我們為什麼從202121年開始在美國及歐洲大力的去成立台灣華語文學習中心也是希望能夠跟我們國際朋友介紹說你就是可以在這個介面平台上不用有任何被統戰或者是政治的行銷的困擾之下你一樣可以學習到很好的華語所以我們在這個以台灣的這個優質 |
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委員長講得很好其實就是沒有把意識形態貫注在華文教育這是我們跟其他人不同不會像中國的孔子學院或者是他們類似相關的這樣子的華文的教學裡面通常都把他們想要宣傳propaganda的東西放進去這是我們的不同的地方 |
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社群媒體 |
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委員會委員長 |
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委員長我覺得這個方向是對的齁但是那個你看一下齁包含IG齁除了委員會的官方帳號之後大概只有英國成立那僑委會的本身帳號也沒有去追蹤就沒有辦法造成串聯的效果是那呃這個甚至X都不用說啦其實其他的這些僑務秘書等等X跟Instagram是全英文的對對對很好很好啊我說彼此之間的互相追蹤是是是串流串流很重要我這個也是提醒同仁發文編綠還有這個是的 |
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社交媒體要串流才會有傳播效益我認為這特別是在X是很重要的一環因為現在基本上中共的所有的訊息特別是錯假亂訊息基本上都在X這邊亂串如果我們沒有辦法第一時間來去反制那基本上就是只有他們的一言堂 |
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委員長 |
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好謝謝陳冠廷委員好委員長請回接下來進行詢答委員吳麗華委員謝謝主席有請徐委員長來委員長請 |
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委員長好過去外交部他有一個國際青年的交流計畫那在這個當中其實常常邀請一些大學然後到國外去做一些演出那演出呢我們也很高興因為往往都看得到 |
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2012年成功大學出訪墨爾本2013年台灣大學出訪巴西團 |
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在這個當中都有做原住民文化的表演可是我們發現他們不但在穿著上出了很大的問題甚至是演出的內容跟他們介紹台灣原住民族的方式其實都有很大的錯誤那這個部分經過檢討之後很感謝外交部現在都有配一個文化顧問 |
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僑務委員會委員長 |
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委員會主席 |
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前年2022年大前年2021年其實這樣的呈現一直不斷的出現那我要先講我們不是希望說因約廢時 |
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其實講一句實在話我們是巴不得跟委員報告這個現象我在去年前年都陸續有注意到就是說因為我們有些僑民年長然後他們出國已經很久了有時候並不了解台灣的進步跟我們對原住民文化語言的重視所以我近年來出國常常在告訴僑民說我們台灣是有 |
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19種國家語言其中16種的原住民語言加上台灣客語台灣台語台灣華語所以大家一聽到就說哇真的嗎我說對而且除此之外呢原住民的文化跟他的這個相關的智慧財產權也是已經有徵記註冊的我們不能挪用 |
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謝謝委員長因為您就是講到重點因為這件事情我要再次強調我們不是希望因噎廢食 |
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反而是我們很希望台灣原住民族的文化可以代表中華民國代表台灣走出去可是我們要重視他的整個文化的深度他的正確性因為他如果做得好他就是一個很有深度的表演我們做不好他就有一種文化務用之外的表淺讓人家覺得這個文化那麼簡單那麼膚淺 |
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因為你們這是喬教中心在辦的嗎? |
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在協助的我們巧作中心是借給人家用的我是在想另外一個層次其實在國際間越來越重視文化農用的問題它其實是會出大新聞像之前那個H&M他們出產了一個羽毛頭柿結果遭全球抵制然後下架或者是迪士尼的電影海洋奇緣 |
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他呢也出了一個裡面的這個半人半神的毛衣這樣的一個刺青兒童裝也是遭到國際的抵制然後下架所以這個文化誤用其實在國際間他是會鬧笑話的 |
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主席主席主席主席主席 |
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委員長請回接下來進行訓導委員鄭振淺委員鄭振淺委員鄭振淺委員不在 |
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陳婷菲委員陳婷菲委員陳婷菲委員不在鍾嘉斌委員鍾嘉斌委員鍾嘉斌委員不在賴士寶委員賴士寶委員賴士寶委員不在楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員楊瓊英委員不在蘇清泉委員蘇清泉委員蘇清泉委員不在吳春成委員吳春成委員吳春成委員不在接下來進行訓導委員是葉元芝委員時間4分鐘 |
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主席麻煩請委員長 |
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委員你好委員長好就是我們國內就是因為很多大選嘛現在因為陸生沒來了所以造成造生困難現在政府是主要把招生有個重點是放在新南向還有就是其他國家的部分對外籍生及僑生好那我現在看很多資料顯示其實我們新南向的國家都很都集中在幾個國家七個都集中沒有七個裡面又在集中特別兩三個對有三個對所以是哪三個越南印尼 |
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海外招生除了教育部之外,橋友會應該也有負擔一部分的工作,對不對?事實上我們做比較多因為海外的僑胞也是這樣認知,他們認為在海外招生部分應該是橋友會的工作 |
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但是海外僑胞有時候他們要介紹朋友來這邊讀書或者是他們自己的小孩要讀書的時候請教僑委會僑委會有的時候就會說這是教育部的工作所以他們在海外會面臨到說這政府怎麼推來推去 |
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所以我想先跟委員長確定說這工作是教育會工作嗎跟委員報告事實上所有的教育業務主管還是教育部那我們在專案的合作上面因為國內的所有學校主管單位一定是教育部但是對於海外的招生方面我們是幫忙做這個連結 |
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推廣提供資訊的角色那另外呢所有的規則基本上比方說他們是要走外籍生或者僑生的路線這個都是跟教育部開會決定的那甚至教育部會說如果我們僑生名額已經全部招完了 |
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他還會鼓勵我們僑生改用外籍生的名額這個事實上是教育部規定的我只是想提醒委員長因為在海外的僑胞他們會把僑友會視為是我們政府的單一窗口是是是所以如果說僑胞找到僑友會這邊僑友會說這是教育部的工作 |
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我們還是會協助 |
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他們也有海外僑班有個建議就是說比如說他們來參加新南向的專班啊之類的要來讀書新南向專班是教育部開的不是我們開的我知道我知道就是我還沒講完就是說他們要來讀書然後呢因為我們他們在入境台灣的時候要辦理簽證嘛對常常要有一個財務審核啦可是有的時候你知道有些僑報委員這就是我要跟你說明的差異性在這裡是 |
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如果是我們僑生由僑委會來審核錄取的我們就不需要他們有財力證明了因為我們會照冊給所有駐外單位的領事去看辦領悟的人但是教育部沒有做這個程序所以這也是要請你協助的地方這我沒辦法協助因為教育部不是我主管的你可以去跟他溝通 |
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僑委會我們國家為什麼會有一個僑委會就是我們希望僑胞的所有問題可以透過僑委會來解決那如果現在在這邊詢答你說那是教育部跟我僑委會無關因為教育部的招生方式跟我不一樣我是統一去招生的可是我認為你可以把你的經驗教育部是他直接就叫各大學自己去招對他們會希望說請僑委會去做溝通 |
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7814.224 |
| transcript.whisperx[310].text |
現在不是說你來決定嗎?因為僑胞的反應當然是...這件事情我有跟教育部提醒過了那這個問題就是他們覺得很困擾的地方所以現在這邊反應嘛我知道,僑胞也跟我講過這個所以可見就是事情還蠻嚴重的他們不是說沒有錢啦只是說可能他們所提供的資料沒有辦法達到那個財務審核的標準但是我不是高教師我沒辦法去幫他們當然這個部分我們也可以跟教育部溝通可是我覺得站在僑胞的立場 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].start |
7814.904 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].end |
7815.244 |
| transcript.whisperx[311].text |
希望委員加強給我們督導 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].start |
7839.247 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].end |
7843.63 |
| transcript.whisperx[312].text |
好謝謝議員之委員委員長請回好接下來進行詢答委員賴會員委員賴會員委員賴會員不在 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].start |
7848.991 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].end |
7867.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[313].text |
已登記質詢委員除不在場外均已發言完畢報告及詢答結束本日會議有林益君委員陳永康委員黃仁委員吳春成委員楊瓊英委員提出書面質詢請列入記錄並刊登公報相關機關已書面於兩週內答覆 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].start |
7870.103 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].end |
7896.268 |
| transcript.whisperx[314].text |
那委員口頭質詢未及答覆部分或要求補充資料者亦請相關單位以書面於兩週內提供但委員另約定期限者從其所定但是剛才那一個有關扣旅行文件的案件請僑委會立即處理本日會議到此結束我們希望總預算能夠盡快交付委員會我們每一次 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].start |
7897.208 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].end |
7897.368 |
| transcript.whisperx[315].text |
結束 散會 |
| IVOD_ID |
16220 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/16220 |
| 日期 |
2024-10-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-2-35-9 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
2 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第2會期外交及國防委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-10-30T08:30:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-10-30T11:00:00+08:00 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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