| IVOD_ID |
162059 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162059 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-36,19-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T14:02:25+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T14:08:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24d7d5c2a2c10d731af05c7c77e5f132fd0eca21237c41e0925e919f47949058595ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:02:25 - 14:08:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T13:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制、經濟委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：併案審查（一）行政院函請審議、（二）委員王美惠等18人、（三）委員羅廷瑋等18人、（四）委員李坤城等16人、（五）委員吳秉叡等18人、（六）委員陳亭妃等16人、（七）委員蔡易餘等17人、（八）委員何欣純等22人及（九）委員吳思瑤等17人分別擬具「個人資料保護委員會組織法草案」案。
【第（八）案如經院會復議，則不予審查；第（九）案各黨團若未提出不復議同意書，則不予審查】
（星期三下午及星期四全天為一次會）） |
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麻煩蔡議員來代理一下謝謝主席麻煩請個人資料保護委員會籌備處主任請李主任委員午安主任好我長期觀察我國在有關個人資料保護的法制跟落實上我最沒有辦法理解的一個問題是說該好好保護的各自沒有被保護好 |
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常常拿去胡搞瞎搞有一些是政治人物拿去胡搞瞎搞有一些是詐團跑去胡搞瞎搞搞了半天責任都沒有徹底的被追究這個是為什麼我們在處理有關於相關案件的時候大家對於我們目前個人資料保護法的法制實質上面落實的程度有很高的疑問 |
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但是在另外一方面我觀察到一個更可笑的現象是個人資料保護法竟然拿來作為違法濫權的遮羞布我為什麼說個人資料保護法被拿來當成違法濫權的遮羞布來我先帶主任看我們派去英國的公使在自己送交給各個政府單位 |
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不管是取得教授的證書還是跟國科會申請經費要拿納稅人的錢去做研究上面的學歷啊 是登載不實的但很厲害的事情啊 是什麼很厲害的事情啊 是他登載不實然後呢 他在國科會的個人資料表上面勾選 |
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我不同意公開我個人的主要學歷我看了我是瞠目結舌我們的國科會還給人家一個選項說你可以不要公開你的最高學歷今天你不要申請公職你不要申請政府的經費我都沒意見結果連國科會的這個資料都可以讓他選擇不公開下一個問題就來了 |
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最高學歷這個是個資沒有問題但問題是因為個資的範圍很廣嘛有法律的授權有正當的理由基本上都要公開我這個認識沒有錯吧個人資料保護法15條你應該很熟啊要不然你怎麼當主任你有看到嗎 |
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所以你也要回答我的問題嗎跟委員報告喔這裡面也涉及到一個蠻重要的另一個法律叫做政府資訊公開法沒錯很好政府資訊公開法來我們接下來看政府資訊公開法第18條第一項第六款 |
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政府資訊屬於下列各款情況之一因限制公開或不提供他說公開或提供有侵害個人的隱私職業上秘密或著作權人的公開發表權有嗎這個來跟國家申請經費的人他是什麼學歷這個是公開會涉及到他隱私嗎是職業上秘密嗎 |
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我多一個好好比啊買拿到哪一個博士學位是羞於其恥還是什麼 一公開的哇 洩漏國家機密洩漏我個人職業上的秘密是這樣嗎來 請教主任 |
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因為各自法跟政治法目前兩個在競合適用的時候因為最高行政法院也歷次有做過一些判例是沒錯他們說優先適用政府資訊公開法沒錯那所以呢依照政府資訊公開法按照你作為接下來這個籌備處主任的高度 |
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認為申請要他公開他的最高學歷會侵害他的個資嗎我們的個資法是這樣用的嗎但是因為現在政府制定的官方是給持有資料的這個機關是按照這個規定18條第1項就來做決定說有沒有但有公益有必要你覺得有沒有公益的必要但是我們並沒有掌有這個資料應該是由國科會去 |
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踢皮球就對了 現在踢給國科會沒有沒有 這我們沒有這個職長 請委員見諒我最後講一件事情就好了啦人家去申請 要公開這個資料他為什麼要申請 他要揭弊啊我明明就知道你造假啊 亂寫啊但是呢 我們的科技部很厲害人家去跟他申請的時候他說 因為涉及到各自法的保護啊 |
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所以欠難提供啊 你看 朝偉的臉看得都瞠目結舌啊 難以置信啊我要先取得這個資料 我還知道他造假嘛請我們的科技部幫忙遮醜啊 遮到這樣子的程度啊您作為各支法的主管機關啊 認為科技部這樣濫用各支法 您同意嗎 |
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我最後時間到,我只簡單跟主任講一件事 |
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法學界很多人各執法是政府公開資訊法的專業領域的專家今天聽到你站在這邊講本來對你很敬重可能會有一些失望好 謝謝 |