IVOD_ID |
162025 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162025 |
日期 |
2025-05-28 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-22 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
22 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-05-28T11:24:41+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-05-28T11:33:34+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:53 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f244b7c6460d8989d71d126c33bcaff1fd1a3426710e0a50eed11da5eb25df386f15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
委員發言時間 |
11:24:41 - 11:33:34 |
會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議(事由:處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算解凍案。) |
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謝謝主席,麻煩有請秘書長好,請秘書長方委員好秘書長好,我今天早上在隔壁的交通委員會問問CC的代理主有一個問題,他沒辦法回答他說他不是他的全責範圍因為去年,周鴻泰說11月19號,你看一下 |
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他說我們希望在12月以後通傳會能夠有新的名單出來那去年年底是沒有提出來了今年4月說希望月底以前能夠提出來還是沒有提出來5月2號說人選已經確定可能下週公布名單今天已經5月幾號了所以現在行政院新的主委名單什麼時候要送來 |
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包委員我想我可以跟院長轉達就是說所以除了他以外也沒有人可以回答這個問題嗎?是不是?對啊,卓榮泰剛好總諮詢的時候答應大家事業底要送來總諮詢結束以後人不用來立法院講話不算話 |
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一個行政院院長可以講話不算話到這種程度喔立法委員也問不到他NCC代理主委很無奈秘書長也很無奈大家都很無奈整個國家沒有人拿卓榮泰有辦法所以你今天的立場就是回去轉達給卓榮泰 |
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好 希望今天左榮泰看是不是責成行政院發一個新聞稿講話不算話一而再再而三跳票跳票成這個樣子也問不到他本人大家都拿他沒辦法現在左榮泰是覺得自己是太上皇是不是愛怎麼幹就怎麼幹第二個問題 |
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之前行政院送來立法院審議的NCC主委加委員總共四個人嘛主委因為NCC組織法的修正已經不合格了剩下的三個人行政院也要撤回名單嗎我問過議事處了 到目前為止沒有撤回但是我現在有點看不懂總統他說他要提出一個新的名單出來 |
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聽起來好像不是只有主委但舊的名單也還沒有撤回去所以現在行政院送到本院來請求本院審議的那份名單除了主委已經喪失法定資格以外另外三位行政院現在的立場是什麼希望立法院處理希望的話我就請交通委員會排案了 |
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不希望的話什麼時候會名單要撤回去還是你也不知道對我實際狀況我是不知道但是據我了解應該會更替 |
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那如果要更替的話行政院負責任一點好不好先把這個名單撤回去嘛我會轉到該撤不撤放在立法院裡面如果連行政院秘書長都搞不清楚狀況的話那全中華民國沒有幾個人搞得清楚狀況只有一個人搞得清楚狀況就是一而再再而三跳票的卓榮燙 |
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今天委員啊大家關心的另外一個事情啊喔對我再插一句話行政院委員要撤回動作要快意思表示要清楚否則的話我要請交通委員會開始排案了直接公聽會排下去三位沒有撤回名單的請來立法院這三位有沒有跟行政院院長表達詞意還是你也不知道這個我不知道你也不知道 |
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好來 下一個事情就看你知不知道了今天非常多委員關心的事情我們在通山對象是中央各機關及其所屬地方補助款一毛都沒有刪地方補助款按照你們行政院自己發函給立法院的這是法定義務支出 |
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卓文泰是什么时候决定他要去删地方补助款的这个你知不知道他什么时候决定的这个是主计总署他们想了各种各种的方法以后所以是主计总署的主计长建议的是吗什么时候提出这个建议主计总署送上来的没有错什么时候送上来的我具体的讲啦今天这么多委员 |
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提出質詢卓榮泰違法濫權之處已經非常清楚了接下來要進行責任追究的部分那既然是要進行責任追究的部分誰做這個決策誰要負責嘛主席總署什麼時候提這個主意給行政院的 |
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這個你也不知道嗎那我要回去查一下你要回去查一下書面回覆可以嗎可以好 第一個主席總署什麼時候上文給行政院 |
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建議這樣子做請行政院書面回覆而且連主計總署上的文一併提供可以嗎我來瞭解一下可以提供嗎要問一下主計總署我再瞭解一下這應該不是什麼國家機密吧第二個主計總署上來了以後左榮泰什麼時候決定要對地方的一般補助款這個法定義務支出動手的什麼時候做的決定 |
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我剛剛提到這個我沒有了解 我要回去了解OK 沒關係啦 今天行政院秘書長來我問了幾個都是行政院執掌相關的事項啦那顯然連秘書長對於行政院院長做了很多決策相關的時間點也沒有辦法充分的了解 這沒關係會後提供就好了 |
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最後一個問題本院如果通過決議要求你們更正這個違法的狀況把該給地方政府的一般補助款補足行政院會不會遵守立法院的決議還是行政院打算我就是要硬幹到底你立法院做什麼決議我行政院也沒有要鳥你們如果立法院做這個決議行政院會不會遵守 |
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我們現在的做法就是遵照立法院總預算的三讀的決議在辦理錯你現在的做法完全不是按照立法院總預算三讀的決議來辦理你去對一下啦113年中央政府總預算案通過的通案的決議跟114年通案的決議你就會清楚看得出來嘛 |
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113年通案的決議還有刪給地方政府的補助114年的決議一個字都沒提到而且明確的就講中央各機關及其所屬行政院 |
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行政院要繼續凹那個是行政院的事情我現在只問一個簡單的問題本院如果做出了決議要求你們把違法苛扣還給地方政府的一般補助款補足行政院會不會遵守還是你也不知道要回去請示著龍派我沒有辦法表示說這個還沒有發生的事情還沒有辦法表示我只講一個基本的原則 |
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如果台灣還是憲政民主的國家如果台灣還是憲政民主的國家當國會做了這樣的決議的時候請行政院請行政院尊重國會的決議改正你們過去的錯誤也拜託秘書長把今天在這邊聽到各個委員質詢強烈的意見帶回去給卓榮泰可以嗎 |
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好 謝謝 |