| IVOD_ID |
162024 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/162024 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
22 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T11:15:45+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T11:24:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:43 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f243f148d8b84f65738d126c33bcaff1fd1a3426710e0a50eed4e1b9f274f2638895ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:15:45 - 11:24:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第22次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算案有關行政院預算解凍案。） |
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主席 請祕書長好 請祕書長這位好祕書長好 辛苦了謝謝這個這一次114年度的預算的通案三檢當初的提案在這裡民眾黨所提的提案通案三檢從這個每一個列舉的 |
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這個項目來看通案刪減的其實都是什麼都是一幫維持費這些不影響人民錢益的部分是要讓所有的中央機關要能夠不要亂用人民的納稅錢最主要的用意在這裡而民主黨你很清楚你最清楚你過去也在國會待過 |
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這次為什麼會產生這種問題就是因為立法院韓國瑜院長主持朝野這個協商要針對整個總議宣案要如何審查你本來可以在韓院長主持的協商的時候可以做說明的你本來有機會說明是誰沒說了這個說明就是柯建民總召 |
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在那個場合不斷不斷地說大罷免就造成了你沒有機會在那個場合說明所以也就這樣這個原因最主要在這裡好我們看當初立法院通案刪減的決議 |
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其中因刪減另已補足的科目是指一般維持費不包括法律義務支出也不包括獎補助費也不包括義備金而且因刪減另已補足這四個字是針對中央機關是針對中央機關所要資用的經費你怎麼可以去刪減地方政府的經費 |
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所以這個部分是一個非常嚴重的一個錯誤然後我們看這個行政院114年5月16號函給各地方政府修正114年度中央對地方政府一般性補助款結果一砍百分之二十幾總共砍了663億我們看 |
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中央對地方政府的一般性補助款他的法源依據就這個辦法然後法源是財政收支方法第三十條第二項以及地方制度法第69條第三項這是法律所明定這裡面包含警政消防人員尤其是第二條第二條的第三項的第三目 |
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就是法例民定地方政府要配合的部分法例民定是國民年金法農民健康保險條例老年農民福利暫行條例中低收入戶老人生活津貼發起辦法這個是法例民定地方政府也要去資用的經費要發要資用然後透過怎麼來源經費來源從哪裡來就是從 |
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中央對地方政府的一般性補助款這是這樣來的這是法律所明定的這裡面寫的很清楚第三條第一項一般性補助款補助事項社交研這個教育社會福利等等就是剛才的這些條文啊就是這些法律所明定的所以他是法律義務支出啊這法律義務支出怎麼可以刪減 |
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你怎麼可以去刪減你應該去刪減你的一般維持費是中央所要支用的這些經費好我們看行政院主計總署在去年8月行政院主計總署去年8月送到立法院的114年度中央政府總預算案編列依法例義務支出明細表 |
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這不是我們立法院自己做的是行政院送來的依法律義務支出的明細表裡面就包含了一般性補助款兩千五百零一一千多寫得非常清楚所以從剛才的法規法例來看包括自己行政院自己也認為這是法律義務支出這是符合的應該的 |
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我們再看民主進步黨在1月21號的臉書2501億一般性補助款都是行政和立法部門不能變動的中央法定支出連民進黨的中央黨部都認為這個當然是你們提供給他們的當天啊然後呢這裡面還寫到中央政府可用的預算還有一兆元啊 |
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扣除那些刪減了之後扣除統商的刪減了之後還有可用的一兆元一兆元你不用不是不刪結果你去刪對地方政府的一般性補助款而且涉及到教育社福的經費怎麼那麼狠啊好好回去啊秘書長這不是你做的決定回去跟卓榮泰院長做說明好接下來 |
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基本設施維持費你們也把它凍結3億2千萬3億2千萬的理由是什麼也是這個636億636億地方一般性補助款你扣了刪了還要再刪原住民的基本設施維持費這是對原鄉的這些基本財政的這個一個協助啊 |
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那不是超過636億嗎對不對變成600超過啊超過636億啊你們的理由也是這個所以這個部分民主黨趕快趕快要求行政院主席總署基本設施維持會趕快撥款另外建法補償你剛講的是什麼這是第一個行政院院長 |
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同意要辦追加預算 禁法補償不足的23億9千多萬立法院也做了決議要辦追加預算延命會依立法院的提案在今年的3月已經把這個追加預算已經送到立法院所以行政院趕快秘書長 這個你可以做決定了 |
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趕快把進法補償23億9千多萬這個跟什麼 跟總預算無關啦 跟你事先無關啦這追加預算跟總預算無關啦不要再用這個理由啊可以嗎 秘書長從3萬塊變成6萬塊 這個我們一定會補足他 |
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518.932 |
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一定會讓原民有這樣的需要的人一定領得到這是法律義務民主黨如果我們沒有研會根本來不及啊你要辦追加預算要到11月才那個審議啊9月10月都是總質詢啊所以你趕快送來送來還來得及在7月底以前呢完成追加預算好不好 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
519.805 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
520.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
我來表達謝謝 |