| IVOD_ID |
161972 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161972 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-28 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-15 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
15 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-28T10:15:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-28T10:25:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:33 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/75aba70f567c6f24d879fe3ef5889cc01b5ee1b3bf308d2eb291a8f6a096732c6bec4195852848de5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:15:36 - 10:25:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-28T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第15次全體委員會議（事由：審查：
一、本院委員謝衣鳯等16人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。
二、本院委員郭國文等17人擬具「農民退休儲金條例第七條條文修正草案」案。(詢答)） |
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主席 各位委員 有請部長喂吼 部長好吼 |
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今天這個審查這個我們召委還有郭委員所提的農民退休儲金條例第七條的一個修正要特別把這個主管機關要提繳的部分提高為1.5倍改為1.5倍本來是相同的改為1.5倍農業部的這個報告裡面特別提到 |
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農民領取老農津貼籍農退儲金合計約38,479元這是每月勞工領取勞保老年給付加上勞工退休金合計約每個月33,095元 |
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你們做這樣的一個比較然後特別提到這個如果修正為這個1.5的話會再提高到45431影響不同職業間的橫貧性而事實上這個如果每一次做一個這個調整然後就要做比較的話那永遠就不能比 |
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農業就不能調啦所以是有時候是我們這邊調然後去帶動其他的比如說帶動勞工的調整都是有這個需要性何況勞工基本上勞工基本上他是這個每隔月每隔月領薪水啦平常的時候上班的還沒有退休的時候 |
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跟農民不一樣,農民是看天吃飯很重要的是看天吃飯,不只是看天啊還要看什麼還要看這個消費現在還要看什麼,誰要看美國對不對川普的經濟川普的關稅所以這個 |
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因素也很多啦因素也很多所以這個部分這個再請這個農業部好好的評估然後另外這裡面很重要的這個你們的報告裡面第三點提到經分析農民未參加農退儲金之原因與農民之儲息意願儲息能力有關這個就是平常他的收入有關係啦 |
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跟他平常跟我剛剛講的有關係所以這個部分是一個他不確定的收入也不像勞工每個月領不像公務連每個月領他不是所以他因素很多所以就會產生這樣的一個考量所以農業部是不是在好好的評估在支持 |
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我第一個跟委員報告我們農業部的立場絕對沒有否定包括協議院委員或國務委員等委員所提的提案那我剛才說的就是我們一開始會做先做客觀的分析那因為以 |
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農業部來講當然越高對農民越有利可是相對的當政策執行下去的時候也會考慮到跟其他的類似的這樣子一個方的條例或辦法的時候的橫平性所以我們這邊提到的所以我們會再做一些評估同時是不是能夠有一些也達到委員的期待然後有更好的方式也能夠增加更多的 |
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農民來參加這個除菌我想這是我們共同的目的啦我們一定會很仔細的去做更細部的一個分析這個部分一定不能光用數字去衡量去比較啦必須考量我剛剛講的這些很多的因素所以這個部分也請農業部這邊考量好另外就是這個我一再提的 |
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這是你們3月26號的報告施行農民退休儲金制度提繳收益人數累計約10.9萬人覆蓋率約33.7%所以光我們從這個跟勞工的就不一樣勞工的很高幾乎是百分之百因為它強制的嘛 |
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所以這個 老公只有16而已喔志願提交才16個而已喔他們只有16嗎 16我們農業參加退休出家對 那個可能是有包含的那個那個不是 那個叫什麼沒有 那個是雇主提領6%的這個部分我們算過了 這個是16%所以農民本身的一個宣導我們是有加強宣導的效果啦 對好 我們看這個 |
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這是今天的報告裡面裡面提到這個 |
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統計114年3月底曾經參加農退儲金受惠人數合計約11萬人含移領這個部分佔未滿65歲且經系統比對符合資格者比例約為49%這個也提高了是吧是這是很好的一個成效好我們看這個 |
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我還是要再為原住民的農民來記這個是之前的一個數字這個是112年10月31號的數字 |
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原住民農民提繳農退儲軍的只有佔百分之五點七真的是這個比例很高我跟委員更新一下這個數據您這邊的數據是去年的數據嗎有這邊有你們這個新的 |
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新的數據現在還有更新的現在是866現在更新的是972到3月27號的是866現在已到上個禮拜是972972我們很努力的在做宣導所以這個部分這個宣導之外你們就是要去了解 |
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原因啊原因是不是他就是刚才你的报告里面提的搅不起所以这个部分所以在这样的一个情况之下是不是可以思考 |
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這個制度的調整制度的調整就原住民的部分也許就有一個制度的調整希望他們能夠講而起或怎麼樣去做鼓勵所以這個部分所以這個是一個你們在宣導的時候也了解一下原因是什麼好不好會 我們每次宣訪的時候都會收集相關的意見因為在這樣的一個比例如果從這個 |
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783這是112年的10月31號的數字經過你們的努力之後到3月今年的3月27是866沒有增加多少 不到100嘛增加的然後你現在是900多嘛 900幾 |
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現在是972然後現在的農保的人數也降低了大概是11995人所以那個比例有增加那是因為那個農民的人數我們參加的人數也增加了然後總農保的人數有稍微下降所以它是浮動的啦那我跟委員報告 |
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551.202 |
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整體看起來是百分之八好像比平均的還低但是有一些縣市幾乎都是零啦這個部分就是我們宣傳的重點那有一些縣市我想像嘉義的其實嘉義的其實有達到百分之五十然後剩下的有達到像台南的有達到百分之三十五桃園的有達到百分之二十五 |
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551.903 |
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567.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
但是因為有零的關係他會把整體的平均拉下來那這些資訊都是我們未來宣導的一個重點特別是針對比較比例比較低的部分好這個部分這個新的數據再提供給我好謝謝好謝謝現在請楊瓊英委員做詢答 |