| IVOD_ID |
161915 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161915 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-26T10:44:42+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-26T10:54:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/120d1ede7233a40a3778bfa82b1aa256ee4a52ea614c3ed7d00acb659e6b7ab01bdf61f3f9847d925ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:44:42 - 10:54:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：處理院會交付114年度中央政府總預算決議，國防部主管預算凍結案等120案。（詳如附件1,2）） |
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主席有請部長有請部長部長好這裡是台東的治航機場治航機場當年要開闢的時候把原住民的部落遷走了 |
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原住民的部落Gagawasan本來在這個自航機場裡面自航機場裡面第一個被遷走移到靠海的這邊叫Basawari部落富岡部落另外一個GaruruanGaruruan部落遷到這個比較上方這個地方 |
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另外就是嘎嘎山本部落的名稱移到這邊來,這個十三部落這麼多年來,我們的部落,我們的鄉親,配合國家的國防來遷移 |
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但是完全沒有受到照顧連基本的噪音基本的噪音的防治很難防治很難防治所以只有靠補償結果連補償措施都沒有原因就是出在這個法例這個我們如果按照這個 |
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因為都是用防治然後什麼用什麼補助這個基本上就是補助買那個啦買冷氣機啦基本上是這樣冷氣機其實沒有辦法防治啦那都是假的但是呢冷氣機呢 |
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要十年,十一年,從八十九年開始才有八十九年開始才有八十九年到九十九年是十一年,一輪次要跟別的里要跟別的里不好意思,不好意思要跟別的里要去輪,這麼多,台東市這麼多的里要去輪 |
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所以11年第一次是11年第二次也是非常長的一個時間所以這樣在一個情形之下民燕非常非常的不服而且完全無法達到房子其實是真的很難房子了那只好應該用補償民航啊民航機場全部都是用補償啊 |
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民航機場所以本席啊來修法修噪音管制法第17條在110年1月20號公布施行增加了補償措施補償然後授權國防部要訂定補償的辦法好 |
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經過了一年為了訂這個110年1月20號公佈實行經過了一年國防部才訂出這個軍用機場噪音防制補償經費分配使用辦法很遺憾的在第12條 |
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竟然規定第一計劃第12條的第一計劃軍用機場管理單位以本辦法施行後下一個輪次制定一個不合理的規定下一個輪次就是在10年以後啊10年以後才採噪音補償措施啊部長你是學法的這樣的有合法嗎 |
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294.134 |
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有沒有違反這個噪音管制法何況他是受害最重的民航機場都都是用補償啊 補償就是金額啊 經費啊因為你很難防治嘛根本無法防治嘛你說變成沒有聲音不可能嘛你要符合那個噪音管制法的相關的噪音 |
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296.152 |
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321.644 |
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不可能嘛,所以要補償嘛好,部長無法回答,沒關係事實上確實是不用問他們了我來給他們,我給部長看部長是想要說明一下不用,上次說明過了,他有來說明了好,我們來看 |
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323.851 |
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350.55 |
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本席所提的國防部的預算解凍報告解凍案本席凍結國防部114年編列國防政策規劃及督導稅出預算共總共你的稅出預算是四億三千兩百四億三千兩百多萬本席只有凍結一千萬 |
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355.051 |
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366.84 |
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100萬,講錯了,100萬本席只有凍結100萬因為我是公務員出身,我不會凍結很多就是希望國防部能夠積極的做 |
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370.368 |
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396.494 |
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結果呢 你們的意見是什麼本案凍結之經費 均為辦理機場噪音防治補助首席作業費涉及民眾潛意 又要造謠了4億多的我只有凍100萬也沒有指定項目啊只針對國防政策規劃及督導啊這個項目很多啊 |
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397.827 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
425.494 |
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哎呀 光法律事務就三千多萬了對不對凍結那個法律事務三千多萬有什麼關係一百萬而已啊何況我們要指定啊非得要說涉及民眾權益這個就是造謠而且還說本不持續檢討修訂沒有要訂 沒有要修啊 |
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427.932 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
446.076 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
那麼簡單要修這個很簡單啊把那個第一計劃拿掉就好了這麼容易的事情啊就是第一項修修修正而已啊把讓他符合讓他符合噪音管制法第1717條110年1月20號的 |
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修正條文委員是不是可以讓我們有個說明我聽過他們說了我只要請部長你要敢騰順受一個部落要開自航機場我們願意你要知道當時的年代說簽就簽啦也沒什麼完全沒有補償啦土地還是變成國有土地後來是我們去爭取才變成私有土地的 |
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480.78 |
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506.223 |
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現在只是為了噪音補償你要有設身處事如果你是住在這裡竟然不如民航機場的噪音補償對不對國防預算這麼多要輪也要輪十年了光輪那個設施的部分了對不對 |
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508.704 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
534.673 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
這什麼民權國家民主國家對不對我是要讓部長第一個你是寫法律這個法就不對了修的你們修的這個辦法就是不對所以不是你我為什麼不請他們說明呢他們就是沒有錢的沒有錢所以只好這樣修啊然後呢居然聽地方政府的意見 |
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536.893 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
553.625 |
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因為地方政府說要怎麼樣這是不對的聽地方政府聽地方政府的意見你要依法行政部長當然我不會堅持要凍結公務員出生也沒辦法但是部長 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
564.932 |
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590.32 |
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你學法的要指導這些國防部的同仁都不是學法的以上 謝謝很遺憾我也沒有給我們說明的機會好不好我希望你說明啊 因為你都不說明啊不是 因為你的意思我要說明你就不讓我說明好 請說因為你一直要你們的同仁說我就不 我聽過他們說了啊 |
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592.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
595.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
他們跟我講過所以我就說不要為難他們好不好 謝謝 |