| IVOD_ID |
161910 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161910 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-26T10:18:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-26T10:31:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:38 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/120d1ede7233a40a2e768b6e14a260e7330f39aabc087525d00acb659e6b7ab0d45d1968440bc2ef5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:18:28 - 10:31:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：處理114年度中央政府總預算決議有關環境部主管預算凍結報告案142案(含報告事項134案及討論事項8案)。） |
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好 謝謝主席 我請部長請部長我們袁 袁 袁 袁 袁署長袁署長我今天三個問題請教你第一個 來這是我們的離島可能很多人不知道我們全台灣的離島的垃圾全部都運到台灣本島來處理 |
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包括屏東的小琉球、綠島、蘭嶼包括連澎湖、金門、農莊、上場等等對不對對啦好來我先疊一下齁這個把它放大可以嗎我都放大吧那個結算齁 |
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我們用小琉球為例它有兩個處理垃圾的委外案第一個就是垃圾轉運站營運管理這個議案 |
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議案就是一般廢棄物轉運期監督我想所有的理事長都會這樣做啦這兩個案子 保證你看看這是34億的 |
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你嚇死人了,你嚇到乎聾了啦不可能那麼多啦千萬百萬千萬億十億三百四十二萬三百四十二萬啦?不可能啦,抱歉啊你的招標案,你看看招標案 |
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跟委員報告,這顯然是錯誤,屏東環保局可能在打的時候打錯我們同仁也有通知他,他現在應該是342萬,已經請他改正了你的招標是4百69萬,人家都有在看,你也這樣輪步一段,被人家笑死了另外一間,還有多少? |
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發委員 剛才所指的兩個案子齁 它其實是同一筆同一個...一個...所以是兩個案子還是一個案子?它是...它是...它分兩個計畫 但是是同一個案 這樣子同一個案子 兩個計畫?是所以兩個報告是一樣?欸 它...它會分別齁 它有一個轉運計畫嘛 一個管理計畫兩個還是... |
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對兩個的報告是一樣我看到所以這個我們在留學後我們就去實際考察我們看那個垃圾 |
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打包之後弄到船然後就到鹽埔漁港然後車子就載出來嘛是是有的車子是就直接載車子就從小琉球然後那個車子就直接開到接駁船上面然後船就拉著走然後到東港到新衍這邊就直接開出去了是這樣嘛是是所以這是把他聽成一個慣例一個操作這樣喔 |
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市長他們一直要求多一點的資源,你覺得怎麼樣? |
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報告委員小琉球的要求我們會再考慮檢討不過目前小琉球的運輸費用是全國最高他甚至比金門運回來還要貴這個部分可能還要檢討一下我們看他的實際的需求 |
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因為他的遊客真的是非常多民宿現在已經400多家了遊客很多,布朗也都去過所以這個督導是你們撥錢給屏東縣環保局,環保局去執行所以這個錢100%都是你們給的 |
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好那這個要加強那第二個我們防管署我們在第18項第18款第4項第18款第5項黨團的這一些凍結案我就統一起來問剛剛很多委員問了很多 |
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在垃圾不漏地的這一項到登革熱颱風現在又來了你有什麼想法跟做法 |
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再來一些工廠的VOC等等這些有沒有什麼想法是 向委員報告其實在我們的登革熱防制上面我們在北中南從去年開始每一年分為北中南 |
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各實施實兵演練那這些實兵演練就是大家在別的縣市如果機具由我們調度到現場不管是災害或者是這個登革熱等等之類的那這種高師演練跟現場演練北中南山區各有責任區我們做演練 |
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那在工廠的VOC上面我們是以科技執法那在我們的年度預算裡面也有顯示在上面希望透過遠端的監控方式來做處理這個是一個科技執法的一個那所以你跟各縣市的環保局都有在監控這些瓶瓶罐罐啊颱風過後像這樣這兩天雨這樣下那些清除都有在監控嗎 |
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是 這一個它清除完畢會跟我們回報它的數量當然我們也是有一個系統來如果哪一個縣市它有需要資源的話我們會去調度其他的資源或其他縣市來做資源清除所以如果他們做得好有評比 有獎勵 有沒有有 我們在年度的績效評比制度裡面是有這一項的 |
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第三個問題就是我要問部長你剛剛一直在講的環境跟AI的監控你現在做的是有做到哪一些AI的 |
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AI第一個是說我們那個對於空瓶的預測例如說現在PM2.5多少像我自己我是敏感體質啊我PM2.5我就設定20以上就會push給我啊那個呢就經過AI去算未來會到20例如說他一直提升他就會主動去推估未來多少那我就手機就會收到啊這個就保障每個人的健康 |
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那各縣市的這些data如果是有超過預警值你們的署長啊你們的高階的人會顯示你的手機會顯示出來嗎有有我舉例例如說要是發生火災啊火災往哪裡飄那個煙往哪裡飄我們大概即時都會得到回報消防署會給我們那我們也有自己的所以這個都會提醒來預警做超前的部署 |
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有危險值的通報對不對有有有我們自己內部都有可以看得到你看你的手機就會顯示出來對三更半夜也都有也都有對這樣的話那你剛剛另外一個講說家庭裡面也會產生PM2.5你是在說什麼 |
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沒有啦,我們開一個GAS,開豬柴,一直砰,那個就是等於是燒天然氣嘛,其實那個時候PM2.5就會跳起來,我們有算過大概會到三四十啦,為客啦,因為差不多家裡如果你很乾淨的話,大概都是十以下, |
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我們家裡用的那個液態那個是滋味瓦斯一桶一桶那個是中國石油公司煉油的時候所產生的副產品那我們剛剛一直在講那瓦斯船 |
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再來要給台灣發電用的那個是液態天然氣那個兩個來源是不同的但是它原理是類似的當然但是這是石油在蒸餾的時候在分類的時候從傘層的那一個瓦斯應該講瓦斯它裡面應該是比液態天然氣還多樣化裡面的化學物質可能會更多 |
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我們家裡面的其實也不少我們現在會啟動研究調查啦就是說因為像其實有人說要家裡要換電磁爐會比較好啦但是也有一些國外研究說沒差是你要吃什麼例如說國外有研究肩培根PM2.5可以到2000啦所以這個其實我們一直很想要用健康的觀點來保障每個國人的健康 |
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就是說炸豬排啊那個其實PM2.5的都在美國你看到很多用電爐啦他們都220的230齁他們都用電爐很少像我們用炸的用炸的那我們的瓦斯就是桶裝的瓦斯或天然瓦斯自來瓦斯我在想裡面因為是煉油的過程所產生的 |
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附加物它裡面可能會比液態天然氣還多樣化化學成分會更多有沒有研究過這個包委員這個部分國內的調查我有問我同仁目前過去調查的很少很少 |
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像我們洗熱水澡也是用瓦斯其實也會產生出來其實生活裡面的這個就是我們我們要調查的所以這個你要往這個方面研究就是說你這台車輸了你現在燒出來的東西燒不完整不完全燃燒 |
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為什麼冬天關個窗戶洗個熱水澡就會熄人那都是這樣是不是有其他的化學物質那是一氧化碳中毒當然你說一氧化碳但是我覺得它稍微有很多稍微不完整的那些稍微不完全的那些化學物質搞不好那裡面有一二十種成分 |
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所以這個環保署你要去研究這個啦是是 我現在我們今年會有一個重點就是健康啦 健康的市長 你可能要去做一些研究啦 好不好好 那最後一個就是我們屏東剛才 王一民講得很大聲齁這些煤 這些發電廠一直漂漂漂齁我一直從小到現在那個臨沿石化工業區齁我對它真的是很 很 |
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就給你小的啦,真的迷茫茫,天空那裡,星農那裡,這麼多肺部的問題啦我跟那邊是絕對的關係啦,那你新達大林飄過來的那屏東本身,你說你用AI在監控,那些農業機械什麼 |
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有的時候如果用柴油燒很多的民眾例如說操作的農民如果用柴油燒積聚的話那個對身體還是不好啦所以這個其實我們以後也要來注意啦我有發現到這一塊所以我們一起來研究看看好 謝謝 |