| IVOD_ID |
161832 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161832 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-22 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-22T12:47:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-22T12:55:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1976c9e92d55c2f9cbb6b3b9541fcd96dbbda46ccfe01665672ba64a6a255857ef8a19ad8d4174405ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:47:58 - 12:55:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會（事由：「回應民意，虐童刑責法制總檢討」公聽會） |
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謝謝主席今天安排這麼重要一個公聽會也謝謝這麼多專家寫者還有我們的行政部門在這邊傾聽共同來解決問題今天我們談內同案談凱凱老蔣是很不捨的心疼大家都知道我以前在電視主持節目 |
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每次談到內同的這個案子 我都拜託說那個馬賽克一定要打然後我拜託我的來賓啊有些細節不要講得太細 因為太不忍了看到那個畫面 講起那個凱凱 大家想起那個凱凱一歲半的一個小孩子 被那種虐待那是多心疼的一個事情 |
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我本身大學練的是社會系我好多朋友好多同學學長學弟妹們都在社福的體系裡面工作社工園生命線在第一線我也深深的了解我們的兒少的保護體系是非常弱勢的很多地方很多地方真的非常的無力感 |
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所以今天一方面謝謝主席排的這麼重要的會一方面我想要明白的表達面對層出不窮而且是越來越嚴重的兒童內帶案政府包括立法院我覺得包括全民應該是有責任去解決這問題的包括法律它如果是正義 |
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他應該是要解決問題的而不是一直在製造問題的從這次凱凱案大家回過頭通案去看這段時間的這個兒童虐待案就是在一直在增加當中嘛剛講凱凱案我看今天大家有談到一個案子2015年花蓮發生情侶一對情侶他用七大酷刑 |
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他內帶了一個三歲的小女童死刑案那時候大家知道嗎2017年這個案子後來判了多少年一條人命兒童內帶那麼嚴重慘不忍睹判13年6個月實際上服刑只有6年多那這不是個案絕大部分那種慘劫人倫讓人家心痛心疼那種兒童肅內案 |
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都判得很輕啦 不要說無極徒刑判得很輕一半的時間又放出來了然後你就看到案子一直一直在增加我們是不是應該挺身而出要讓這些悲劇不要再發生呢所以台灣民眾黨非常具體的提出來對於兒童內帶致死 |
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最重死刑或無期徒刑 可是這個無期徒刑要引進像歐盟這樣 要是一個終身監禁 不得假釋我很高興 我剛剛也問了法務部好像大家也比較慢慢有往這個方向在走事實上前幾天聽到法務部說已經有14萬人連署要求要重罰 |
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要判死刑或者是剛剛民眾黨提的無期徒刑法務部有一度說不宜採納還好還好今天經過這段時間的溝通今天看起來是有好的答案了很期待法務部三個月內嘛三個月內而且往這個方向 |
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法律是要解決問題的我們很期待透過我們法律的修法讓悲劇可以不要再發生在大法官會議大法官提名的時候我有跟中線一起邀了很多受害者的家屬請聽他們的聲音 |
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包括獅頭獎女教師的家屬包括台南有兩位英勇的這個員警不幸殉職他們的家屬來我知道今天也有受害者的家屬在現場齊凱必須跟大家講那天我跟鍾憲在傾聽受害者的家屬的時候 |
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你是難過的因為你很難想像一個人受到那麼大的一個折磨跟無奈另外一個發現是什麼發現我們現在台灣的社會不只是法律甚至整個社會裡面對加害者的保護跟提供幫助非常非常的周到相對之下被害人包括被害者的家屬是非常的無奈的像那一天兩位警察的 |
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家屬來 他們說啊他們無力 所以他們頂多只能找到一位律師可是呢 法服啊 或者一些團體他們拿我們人民的納稅錢我們去補助了法服 協助了法服法服去幫他們找了很多的律師去幫加害人台灣現在的法律跟我們現在社會上的一個就是在這個 本來是公平的一個司法現在看起來是嚴重傾斜的 |
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就包括我們今天在談的 售內小孩已經那麼可憐了他售內是死了誰幫他們講話呢好 最後我做個簡單的這個總結今天我剛聆聽了多位這個學者專家包括家長還有教育團體他們甚至都做了一個民調了 |
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而且從最近的這個民調大家也看得很清楚不只那麼多人上街抗議有高達將近14萬人已經連署了我覺得從法務部一直到立法委員跟我們全民要去回應民意特別是內統這個案子一直在發生而且一直沒有一個解決的方案顯然他的遏止力是有問題的我們希望這個悲劇不要再發生 |
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所以拜託大家今天我們當然是傾聽各方面的意見不過今天聽下來很清楚的很多民眾都認為應該是要解決問題的很期待三個月後我們可以看到法務部一個符合全民而且是可以讓悲劇不要再發生的一個修正案謝謝 |