| IVOD_ID |
161787 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161787 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-22 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
14 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-22T09:35:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-22T09:45:57+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:11 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/1976c9e92d55c2f99e8ec1e0c2030d4ac1afe2edc2e0cc67bea248a27804db81ec6f0a0ad4d1e0835ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:35:46 - 09:45:57 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-22T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第14次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關經濟部及所屬主管預算凍結案等39案。
二、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關國家發展委員會及所屬主管預算凍結案等21案。
三、繼續審查：
（一）行政院函請審議「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（二）本院委員王美惠等18人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（三）本院委員羅廷瑋等17人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（四）本院委員李坤城等16人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（五）本院委員郭昱晴等19人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（六）本院委員陳亭妃等16人擬具「個人資料保護法第十二條、第二十七條及第四十八條條文修正草案」案。
（七）本院委員蔡易餘等18人擬具「個人資料保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
（第六案及第七案如未接獲議事處來函則不予審查。）） |
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517啊 河山場二號機停了之後19號台中深夜12點的畫面中火深夜燒煤炭 煙霧瀰漫部長看了應該也是有些擔心的這個畫面真的是非常的驚悚現在開了第一槍出來抗議的是台中市的市長 |
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盧秀燕 盧秀燕提出非常具體的事證她證明說 在飛河加鹽的前一天跟後一天就是前一天到後面一天 中火的發電量 全部都燒沒了喔中火是台灣最大的污染源 它燒沒 |
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增加了50%他直接講了一共一本錢有10部這個基礎有一部在維修其他的9部基礎火力都全開這不是只有台中人受到影響喔在附近的中華南島 嘉義 昏林整個都受到影響了我看台電還一直認為沒有問題可是呢我們看下一張 |
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台中市的環保局長跟盧修緣就拿出了非常具體的證據他講說中火啊他把時間點都給你看了中火10步這個燃煤基礎9步有上限其中有8步開的都是超過9成一直持續到20號的下午下面這個話最重要請大家一起來看看 |
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你看 河山廠停機前16號中火 就是台灣最大的污染源他燒 用的這個煤炭一天3.23萬噸結果17號停了以後當天就跳上來了跳到4.03萬噸的煤炭18號稍微緩了一點點19號竟然攀升到4.64萬噸我給你算算看 這多恐怖的事情 |
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一天喔就是非核家園以後光是一個中火一天多了1.4萬公噸的煤台中人跟整個中部地區的民眾用會發電健康受到多大的影響這是一個好 那我們再往南部看中部之外南部的議員跑出來講 |
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說高雄啊新達三號跟四號的燃煤基礎你明明去年許可證明已經到齊了啊在飛河佳園貨的三天你又偷偷地擋開了高雄人何辜啊不只是中部的民眾用廢在發電南部也受到很大的影響我可以這樣講在民進黨推動飛河佳園之後 |
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前臺灣空污越來越嚴重這是我們現在要正視的一個很嚴重的一個問題好 接下來我要談一個也是非常嚴重的問題除了污染增加了影響到我們人民的健康跟生命安全之外我們的電到底夠不夠呢賴清德總統你4月29號啊說我們的電夠啊 |
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他還特別講他說全國民眾啊你可以上台電的電力即時資訊你去看一下我們的備載容量啊就是我們備用的一個電都在10%以上我們就上去看了結果發現5月4號就被打臉了 |
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總統在4月29號接受財新的專訪說我們所有的電力備載容量電是過的都是10%以上不到五天不到五天就破功了那一天降到6.846.84多恐怖就從綠燈已經轉到黃燈了再下去6%以下就是橘燈 |
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橘色的燈就是隨時有可能系統性的限電的我進一步給大家看一下總統的票票大家看一下這是台電的資料我幫他做一個統計這是每天的備產容量的熱量看下一張光是四月份總統票票的10%就有11次五月份到現在為止也有7次 |
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在4月10號的時候 降到5.37一直沒有10%欸5.37代表什麼?已經進入了極端 極端叫做什麼?供電警戒 就是系統的限電限電的機率已經增加了再往下降 隨時就要找電了可能就要大停電了所以我剛剛一直一路講下來我們的污染增加了 空污增加了我們的電力 |
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沒有像總統講的那麼充裕電力顯然是不夠的部長所以在空屋跟電力上面我們是要做一些想辦法解決問題 |
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可能委員說明其實整個年度我們如果從這個2016到現在所有的空污的問題台電其實是一直在做降低的動作包括剛才提到的台中的電廠南美的用電量南美的用量我們整個南美的發電量也都在降那剛才委員有提到10%其實台電對外已經一再的強調那是在日尖峰 夜尖峰它必須要超過7%所以你剛才提到所以總統叫我們隨時上去看啊 |
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是不是而且我講的不是只有晚上喔很多尖峰時間 特別是那個太陽一下山的時候老實講 現在幾乎是每天傍晚只要太陽一下山 那個太陽能一下子不見了我們這輩子容量就快速下降馬上喔 馬上6月份下季馬上就來了 對不對用電高峰就來了喔 |
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所以政府有責任 你既然廢了核電第一個 空污不要再生效 因為我們廢發電 影響我們健康第二個不要讓我們大停電喔 電力一定是要過熱 總統講話已經被打臉了嘛對不對 信息非常清楚嘛空污的情況 台電一直都持續在降啦我先跟他講一下齁昨天啊 傍晚 你在說那個時間昨天傍晚啊 |
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為6點就太陽大概差不多下山後沒多久6點50分一直到7點50分昨天的傍晚這個小時啊我們備載容量差不多只有7%所以再降下去就是已經從黃燈黃燈就是已經吃緊了啊綠燈就是總統講的綠燈就是供應充裕對不對到了10%以下就是供電已經是吃緊了 |
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大部分時間在供應吃緊了到了下面就是集燈供電已經上有警戒了已經快到警戒的地方了昨天晚上有長達一個小時都只有7%是 都維持在夜間風7%以上我給大家看一下那個空屋的統計齁 |
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這個是中心院的資料過去八年啊行政院跟政府一直講我們的空汙是這樣的可是呢過去八年我們的碳排增加了多少沒有少欸還反而增加了80萬噸這多嚴重的一個問題好 |
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我們請部長跟台電注意三個事情第一個 廢核517之後 我們電價 電力的成本已經變貴了不要隨便漲價從內部趕快去作為改革第二個 空氣污染變嚴重了第三個 電力的穩定度已經下降了 |
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請好好面對問題幫人民解決問題不要讓人民第一個用配發電而且電會是升高的謝謝好 謝謝張其凱委員的發言 |