| IVOD_ID |
161777 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161777 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T14:55:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T15:01:06+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db7dc6ec8220605ba5e11a54d16b4ae569f45a94dd28b54b380a24d4c92cf601975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王義川 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:55:02 - 15:01:06 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算關於總統府預算凍結項目共5案。
二、處理114年度中央政府總預算關於國家安全會議預算凍結項目共4案。
【5月19日及21日兩天一次會】） |
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好 謝謝主席 我們請國安會和副秘書長麻煩副秘書長好 副秘書長好你好 你這個秘書長沒要來 要提早跟我們這個召委講因為這個正在擺 就擺的會啦你們就昨天才去 這樣沒什麼誠意啦上禮拜你們應該就接到通知了吧 |
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我們上禮拜我們就都知道了 展現一下誠意 因為你去給人家凍結也沒有多少錢就不夠這樣可以又沒開到花 你想我們這個立法院的秘書長那周亂來啊他是就叫人家投機 韓國的 寫一張批來的 說我們不去這是他叫人家投機寫 你不用 你就下次排會的時候啊 按照慣例該怎麼做就怎麼做 好不好 |
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針對這個解凍案裡面有一個第四個案子啊這個凍結一般行政人士會政務人員待遇十萬元這到底是什麼東西呢凍結十萬元這個會解釋一下這個應該原來是翁委員的案子那主要是翁委員那個時候對本會 |
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那個不是啊 我現在是說為什麼是10萬元啊這個我對當時後來決定就是用10萬元本來好像沒有要動 後來又動動10萬元但我們也就是按照這個數目來辦理 |
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那當天有沒有另外的同仁在的可不可以解釋一下當時這十萬是百分比還是怎樣因為你們的解釋是六個人變七個人國安諮詢委員嘛然後怎麼會比例是比例造成十萬元是不是他好像不是因為人數變動而是有沒有同仁可以把當時的情境講一下 |
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委員好我是人事主任陳佩婷跟您報告就是當時我們在編列諮詢委員的人數預算的時候是從六人變成七人對那是符合我們組織法上面的規定那因為當時增加多一位那就是翁委員還有 |
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當時在場的幾位委員對於說為什麼多編列一位諮詢委員這樣子有一些顧慮所以希望我們就為什麼多編列的部分講清楚所以才會有一個十萬塊的預算保留就一數一數就對了不是說給十萬就對了 |
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就是說原來六個為什麼變七個那法定就是可以提七個當時就是總統只有提六個今年度要變七個所以變了七個的預算那一戶而已好 這個第一個這看起來沒有什麼問題啦那第二個案子啊第二個案子有一個諮詢業務費用一百萬元那三個月提出專案報告並經同意後取得動資 |
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那這個當時的決議是要提一個專案報告那你們的回答是說這個報告是幕僚作業寫完的報告是給總統決策參考具有一些機敏性時不宜對外公布按照這些相關的法令你們就不宜公開這樣要怎麼解凍 |
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那個我們大概是把我們出國的哪些國別大概會議的次數跟人數有在報告裡面爐列就是簡單講就是我們用這個錢並沒有亂用基本上還是主要是出國去開會好那我請教一下你們這些出國的這些費用按照國家別因為一定有預定的國家才編得出這些數字嗎 |
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因為不同的城市有不同的生活費嘛然後有不同的這個交通差旅的費用嘛這是國家規定的好那這一個就是你們現在認定你們就是交出這一些就叫專案報告了是不是包委員說實話我們出國的專案報告通常都是上一個簽給總統 |
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那因為我們是憲政上面來講總統諮詢機關我們不是行政機關所以我們那個報告就不變公開所以就是說實際上什麼時候到什麼地方去開一個什麼樣的會 |
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這個在這個定義裡頭不會是公開資訊不是不是公開資訊所以當時這個委員會要求這個凍結這一個相關的費用然後要請你們提專案報告並經同意這個專案報告的定義啊 |
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你們今天就把它定義你們今天已經算題專案報告了對不對是就是大致那個報告裡面就寫就是你們這裡頭寫的是多少人次然後這個參加幾場的會議然後總共累積是幾天嘛這就是你們定義的專案報告還有區域 |
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還有區域至於那個區域是什麼國家什麼樣的場合你們也就沒辦法講了好 謝謝 |