| IVOD_ID |
161663 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161663 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-21 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-17 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
17 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-21T09:04:23+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-21T09:08:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:04:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/e381da0d479eb7db1e1ad1caaa9949ade11a54d16b4ae569d115676e10478d50c30ece9fadaa79bc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:04:23 - 09:08:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-21T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第17次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算關於總統府預算凍結項目共5案。
二、處理114年度中央政府總預算關於國家安全會議預算凍結項目共4案。
【5月19日及21日兩天一次會】） |
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國安會的預算主席排了解凍案總統府秘書長有要供跟主席請假主席准假了我們尊重這個是主席的權責雖然很希望有機會質詢到總統府的秘書長因為有關於共諜案這麼嚴重的事情 |
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我們之前沒有機會問今天難得藉由預算解凍的機會有機會問但總統府秘書長沒有來我再強調一次主席準價了作為本委員會的委員我尊重但問題是國安會的秘書長你沒有準價他為什麼可以不來上次司法法治委員會針對有關於共諜案 |
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請國安會秘書長來不來我們通過譴責案國安會還發聲明罵我們說我們違反憲政的慣例我都覺得很奇怪國家安全委員會組織法明確的規定受立法院的監督 |
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請你來不來 立法院要如何監督更可笑的是說我們違反憲政慣例之前民進黨在野的時候馬英九執政的時候國安會秘書長沒有來那個時候 召委段宜康一樣通過譴責案只有同一個國家安全會議會隨著誰執政 誰在野標準有所不同 |
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那今天國家安全會議秘書長吳釗燮上一次發那個譴責的聲明他說他很遺憾我老實講真的要覺得遺憾的是台灣人民出了這麼大的包搞神隱吳釗燮現在是怎麼樣國安會的太上皇 |
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說不來就不來整個國會拿他沒皮條然後今天要來這邊解凍國安會的預算召委你覺得這樣適合嗎這樣今天還適合處理得下去嗎是不是可以請議事委員聯絡請國安會秘書長來他今天不來這個預算解凍要怎麼處理 |
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我們作為委員會的委員是沒有召委的權利啦可以直接準價不準價 愛來就不來要聯絡恐怕也是我們立法院司法法制委員會這邊作為一個組織體的責任吧 |
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因為國安會的組織條例第八條其實已經寫得很清楚了那我也不懂說國安會為什麼一直不來國安會秘書長為什麼一直不來那他每次給我回的都叫做憲政慣例但我不知道憲政慣例是憲政的哪一條 |
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我還是沒有聽到那否則是不是就麻煩要幫他們護航的委員不管哪一黨委員來趕快把組織法修掉你修掉之後我沒話說否則今天第八條還在的時候不要抗議我在講我的法律見解 |
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那如果不懂的可以麻煩翻一下官會組織法第八條的法律規定文字寫得很清楚那如果你認為他不需要來那趕快把他修法修掉我就沒意見那否則現在法律還在的情況下我們還是要麻煩這些人要遵守國家的法律不要不遵守國家的法律 |
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那所以說我們好我們現在就是我們想辦法聯絡一下看看秘書長能不能來我們還是很期待他過來啦說明清楚因為我也很痛恨共諜啦沒有我具體建議啦現在打電話請他過來他沒有過來以前啦先休息這個是我的建議那 |