iVOD / 161558

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IVOD_ID 161558
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161558
日期 2025-05-19
會議資料.會議代碼 委員會-11-3-35-15
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第15次全體委員會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 15
會議資料.種類 委員會
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] 35
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] 外交及國防委員會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第15次全體委員會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-05-19T11:45:06+08:00
結束時間 2025-05-19T11:52:36+08:00
影片長度 00:07:30
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 王鴻薇
委員發言時間 11:45:06 - 11:52:36
會議時間 2025-05-19T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第15次全體委員會議(事由:處理院會交付114年度中央政府總預算決議,外交部主管預算凍結案等48案。(詳如附件))
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 好 謝謝主席 我請林部長部長好部長今天很多都聚焦在前立委林昶佐要出任芬蘭的大使其實在上一次有關於我們駐奧地利大使的時候我就提醒過部長
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transcript.whisperx[3].text 優秀的外交官就因為假新聞最後親身讓我們喪失一個非常優秀的外交官所以外交官養成不易但是當有空缺的時候我們一而再再而三的都是用仇擁請問一下部長你怎麼對得起這些外交官我現在就來給你算一算從去年520開始
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 我們以這個林部長你擔任外交部長當然有一些很明顯是你派的有一些也許是來自於上面給你的名單在這些的名單裡面有多少是根本沒有任何駐外的經驗只是因為他是綠悠悠或者是龍悠悠我在這裡面是四個駐外的這些不管是公使
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transcript.whisperx[6].text 駐越南代表劉世忠他的出身是新台灣國策智庫的執行長而且當過民進黨的黨工很多 很多職務駐越南代表來 吳建輝是駐WHO的副廠
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transcript.whisperx[7].text 副常任代表他是中研院的研究員他也沒有駐外經驗再來董思齊你很熟囉台灣智庫的執行長長期擔任台灣智庫執行長號稱為林佳龍子弟兵再來這是我上一次特別有提醒您的駐奧地利代表他或許是一個優秀的音樂家但是由音樂家駐奧地利
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 會不會很奇怪駐英國公使江雅琪教授出身也沒有任何的駐國外的經驗當然他也常常在一些親民進黨的平台上發表文章駐日本代表李毅陽是前內政部長現在由您口中證實的林長佐兼民進黨的立委
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 是大家羞於啟齒還是不能講你這個名單一翻開來你對得起長期的駐外人員嗎你對得起長期的要培養的專業人員嗎為什麼一而再再而三的酬庸覺得外交不重要是不是而且酬庸的地點都非常好啊不是歐洲就是跟台灣比較接近啊回來台灣比較方便啊
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 但是最艱困的地區尤其是我們的一些邦交國這個就要尊重專業了合理嗎公平嗎外交這樣搞的嗎台灣外交不重要嗎
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transcript.whisperx[12].text 部長可不可以告訴我,為什麼在你擔任部長期間,我們的駐外代表可以完全不尊重這些專業,完全沒有駐外經驗的,讓他們去外行領導內行,可以這樣嗎?
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transcript.whisperx[13].text 我們都適材適所也符合外交人員的任用條例那委員很關心的比如說我們的顏社會還有我們的領務局都是之前在這裡做現在已經外派分別到愛爾蘭跟這個希臘所以總體來講我們一定是適材適所為原則外交很辛苦需要各方面
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 的一個支持 那我們一定會我剛才講了那麼多 為什麼這些專業的外交官他們都輪不上呢專業的外交官 比如剛剛以北歐來講現在有三個我們代表處一個是前駐美的副代表另外一位也是非常有經驗的那這個搭配怎麼樣好可以做區域聯防來推動總和外交我們是有綜合的考量我剛才這樣講了下去 就講到一半了
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transcript.whisperx[15].text 比例會不會太高我只是要請部長能夠體諒我們第一屆專業人員的辛苦然後專業的外交人員真的非常重要不要一味的愁庸啊所以為什麼林昶佐是因為他名氣大所以社會輿論嘩然啊
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 可是這裡面有很多 也許他沒有什麼名氣 大家不知道可是他的背景適合嗎?我剛剛講過啦奧地利代表 音樂家就可以去派駐奧地利那台灣太多的音樂家啦如果外交國防委員會就可以去當駐外大使那我們這邊伊陀拉谷 都可以一個一個派啊不合理啦
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 外界自由公平 而且我覺得最重要的不要打擊我們專業外交人員的士氣請部長牢記這句話謝謝 委員 這列的名稱裡面好幾個都是職業外交官謝謝我剛才講的都不是職業外交官這個圖片裡面就有對 沒有錯 七個14個人裡面七個 我剛剛講 一半所以一半你覺得很高囉 不合理吧