| IVOD_ID |
161543 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161543 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-13 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
13 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-19T10:38:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-19T10:45:29+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ecb6f54fb5d604f0b2d8763c27bd0c2728de2cce2b28366acb2fe453f4508dd430a324e446e41dda5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:38:28 - 10:45:29 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-19T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關農業部及所屬主管預算凍結案等30案。
二、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關公平交易委員會主管預算凍結案等8案。） |
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主席 各位委員 有請部長來 請陳部長部長好 委員好最近花蓮台東 |
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因為氣候異常很多的農作物受到這個今年很多地分包括花東地區包括從台東以南其實都有陸陸續續有些災情對對也謝謝農業部農糧署相關的單位也去特別做天然災害的這個部分的一個補助那我看 |
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也特別提到這個還沒有進行的也請這個農業部農糧署那個來協助花蓮西瓜這個也是一樣受到氣候變遷的影響這個相關的西瓜這個摘損很慘重這個本席也特別新聞給農業部針對這個西瓜因為氣候異常這個 |
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它的瓜藤提早壞死,然後相關的劣果也都產生,所以這個部分也能夠實際的去調查、去了解當然包括這個文旦也是一樣文旦也因為有這樣的相關的這些氣候異常,也有這樣的一個 |
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他的那個花還在開花期間就提早掉落這樣的問題是不是可以請我跟委員報告包括西瓜包括你剛才說的那個柚子文旦的部分其實我們東部的那個農糧署東部東區的分署還有我們的花蓮改良廠其實都持續的在觀察重要的品項那以西瓜來講如果說其實它是一個病害 |
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應該是病害的話我們就希望說他能夠做早期的這些噴藥的管理那如果是真的天然災害所影響的話我想我們會根據相關的程序來公告不過現在還在判斷看起來是應該是因為不同的區位所以我們會比較普遍的去觀察好就麻煩這個農業部還有農糧署好另外一個議題跟這個 |
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防疫署有關係這個度物傳染病防治條例第34條規定因施檢疫物之輸入人或其代理人 |
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因施檢疫務到達這個相關公告的這些港站子就是海關嘛就是說這個通常都是機場比較多因向這個輸入因向輸出入動物檢疫機關申請檢疫要申請檢疫這事過去人工的時候都比較沒有問題現在AI電子化的時代 |
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這個財政部的公務署這個都會是用這個電子系統電子系統現在很重要的這個第一計劃因私檢疫物資輸入人或其代理人這個其就是輸入人的代理人 |
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沒有錯吧其代理人就是輸入人的代理人嘛沒有錯那因為電子化時代就會常常會有這個冒名頂替的這種狀況這個輸入人是被冒名的經過這個關屋署去查其實這個我們農業部的相關單位 |
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防疫署也去查也確實被報輸入人被冒名頂替所以相關的這些然後你們就去罰這個代理人輸入人既然是被冒名頂替就沒有所謂的代理人就會產生這個聯動的話所以最新的判決台北高等行政法院在今年的4月11號的一個判決 |
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此為實名認證系統未能防止冒用他人名義註冊之弱動所致啊這個很明確了啊關務署的這個系統確實被有這樣的一個下機檢討的地方所以啊這個農業部在處理這樣的案子的時候也必須考量到既然沒有輸入人當然沒有什麼代理人的 |
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所以這個部分是一個通案的去檢討這個部分好不好謝謝委員的提醒那雖然說公務組這樣的一個有一個案例在那邊那農業部的部分我想我們會來更積極的對謝謝委員的提醒好不好好這個上次有跟部長還有那個林業署也提到現在這個台灣黑熊棲息範圍 |
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這個已經跟人類的活動奇異的重疊非常的嚴重這個是一方面就動物來講是好現象但是怎麼樣 |
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這個我們的部落我們的人我們的鄉親怎麼樣也能夠獲得保護這個是林業署農業部的新的課題啦新的課題這個上次我也提到這個濁西鄉這個中正部落你看這已經跑到海拔 |
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170-200公尺之內的這樣的一個地點這是一個非常非常需要新的課題好不好 |
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黑熊的保育其實我們現在正在啟動更詳細的族群的調查那相關的牠的棲息地牠的海拔高度那個都沒有問題啦現在是人怎麼保護啦是我們的部落我們的人怎麼保護對好不好那這個要怎麼樣的一個方式大家共存啦方式來處理好 謝謝 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：（10時38分）主席、各位委員，有請部長。 |
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主席：來，請陳部長。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：部長好。 |
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陳部長駿季：委員好。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：最近花蓮、臺東因為氣候異常，很多農作物受到…… |
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陳部長駿季：今年很多低溫，包括花東地區及從臺中以南，其實陸陸續續都有一些災情。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對、對，謝謝農業部農糧署相關的單位，特別去做天然災害的補助，還沒有進行的也請農業部農糧署來協助，花蓮西瓜也一樣受到氣候變遷的影響，西瓜的災損很慘重，本席也特別行文給農業部，針對西瓜因為氣候異常，瓜藤產生裂果，也提早壞死，這個部分請實際的去調查、去了解，當然包括文旦也是一樣，文旦也因為氣候異常，它在開花期間就提早掉落，這樣的問題是不是可以請農糧署？ |
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陳部長駿季：我跟委員報告，包括您剛才說西瓜、柚子、文旦的部分，農糧署東區分署，還有我們的花蓮改良場，其實都持續在觀察重要的品項。以西瓜來講，如果是病害的話，我們希望它能夠做早期的噴藥管理；如果真的是天然災害所影響，我想我們會根據相關的程序公告，不過現在還在判斷，因為跨不同的區位，我們會比較普遍性地去觀察。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：好，就麻煩農業部，還有農糧署。 |
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另外一個議題，跟防疫署有關係。動物傳染病防治條例第三十四條規定，應施檢疫物資輸入人或其代理人，應於應施檢疫物到達相關公告的港、站，就是海關，通常都是機場比較多，應向輸出入動物檢疫機關申請檢疫。過去人工的時候都比較沒有問題，現在AI電子化的時代，財政部的關務署都是用電子系統，現在很重要的第一計畫，應施檢疫物資輸入人或其代理人，這個「其」就是輸入人的代理人，沒有錯吧？其代理人就是輸入人的代理人，沒有錯。因為電子化時代，就常常會有冒名頂替的狀況，輸入人是被冒名的，經過關務署去查，農業部的相關單位防疫署也去查，確實輸入人被冒名頂替，然後你們去罰代理人，輸入人既然是被冒名頂替，就沒有所謂的代理人，就會產生這個連動，所以最新的判決，臺北高等行政法院在今年4月11號的判決，此為實名認證系統未能防止冒用他人名義註冊之漏洞所致。這個很明確，關務署的系統確實有需要檢討的地方，農業部在處理這樣的案子也必須考量到，既然沒有輸入人當然沒有什麼代理人，所以通案的去檢討這個部分好不好？ |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我是希望通案去處理，好不好？ |
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陳部長駿季：謝謝委員的提醒。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：另外，上次我有跟部長和林業署提到，現在臺灣黑熊的棲息範圍已經跟人類的活動區域重疊非常嚴重，一方面就動物來講，這是好現象，但我們部落的人、鄉親，也希望能夠獲得保護，這是農業部林業署一個新的課題。這個上次我就有提到，你看卓溪鄉中正部落，黑熊都已經跑到海拔170、200公尺內的地點，真的是一個新的課題，好不好？ |
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陳部長駿季：有關黑熊的保育，其實我們正在啟動更詳細的族群調查，有關牠的相關棲息地、海拔高度等，我們都會來處理。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：那個都沒有問題，現在是人要怎麼保護啦！ |
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陳部長駿季：是。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：我們的部落、我們的人要怎麼保護，好不好？ |
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陳部長駿季：對，這個要尋求如何以大家共存的方式來處理。 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw委員：對，好，謝謝。 |
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陳部長駿季：謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝鄭委員。 |
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下一位請張嘉郡委員質詢。 |
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委員會-11-3-19-13 |
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蔡易餘 |
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邱議瑩 |
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林岱樺 |
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張啓楷 |
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鄭正鈐 |
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陳亭妃 |
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楊瓊瓔 |
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鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
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張嘉郡 |
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謝衣鳯 |
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陳超明 |
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賴瑞隆 |
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邱志偉 |
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郭昱晴 |
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陳冠廷 |
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張雅琳 |
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呂玉玲 |
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67 |
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2025-05-19 |
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1145101 |
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1145101_00005 |
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立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第13次全體委員會議紀錄 |
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一、處理或審查114年度中央政府總預算有關農業部及所屬主管預算凍結案等 30案；二、處理或
審查114年度中央政府總預算有關公平交易委員會主管預算凍結案等8案 |
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1145101_00004 |