| IVOD_ID |
161376 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161376 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-14T12:31:58+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-14T12:40:18+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:20 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4f2e91488ef6971bb2a4c634128d8923b7f4692fd5f06072c7175389991388661fefedc7491e725d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳琪銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:31:58 - 12:40:18 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部及所屬預算解凍案(密件部分)。【秘密會議】二、邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。三、處理、審查114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部及所屬預算解凍案(非密件部分)。【秘密會議結束後再進行第二、三項議程】
【5月12日（星期一）、14日（星期三）、15日（星期四）三天一次會】） |
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吳委員琪銘：（12時32分）主席、與會同仁。請…… |
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劉部長世芳：我先站上來比較快，感謝吳委員。 |
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吳委員琪銘：沒有啦！我沒有要問你，我要問國土署署長。 |
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劉部長世芳：這樣啊！ |
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吳委員琪銘：讓你休息啦！讓你休息啦！ |
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劉部長世芳：謝謝。 |
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主席：請吳署長。 |
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吳署長欣修：委員好。 |
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吳委員琪銘：署長，你好。針對新北市在土城推動大巨蛋的這件事，事實上，在土城看守所這塊土地上的司法園區，感謝過去在署長的努力幫忙之下，現在這個司法園區已經在動了，然而，新北市侯市長推動大巨蛋的選址也是土城看守所這塊將近10公頃的腹地，他認為這個地方相當適合，不知道在國土署未來的規劃中這個地方是否有機會爭取設立大巨蛋？請署長做個說明。 |
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吳署長欣修：新北市有提出這個案子的討論，其實它的都市計畫真正作業要到民國120年才有可能開始啟動，最主要是看守所這裡的土地開發即便完成，看守所與新北地院及新北地檢要一起搬遷過去，也是需要一個興建期，我們推估這個興建期大概至少需要4、5年，也就是說，最快要到120年左右才有可能完成全部的搬遷，所以這個計畫要到120年之後才能開始。不過，並不代表這個地方不能規劃，因此，它現在很重要的規劃焦點是如何改善現在的交通條件。就目前而言，除了前面有比較大的馬路之外，其他周圍的道路系統相對是不方便的。第二個，以大巨蛋高容量的運動人口或活動人口而言，動輒都是2、3萬以上的人數，可能不是只有汽車運輸，包含你的大眾運輸、包含你的公車系統、捷運系統，全都必須完整的建置在附近，才有辦法快速疏散，否則一旦舉辦大型活動，將有可能造成周圍交通的癱瘓。第三個是周圍民房安寧性的問題，我們興建大巨蛋之後要舉辦活動，尤其是演唱會所引發的震動及噪音，其實是非常巨大的，對於周圍住戶的影響會有一定程度的衝擊，況且周圍又都是以老舊的透天住宅及四、五層樓的公寓為主，對於他們產生的噪音衝擊將會很大。我們當然也希望新北市政府能藉由這幾年的時間好好規劃、好好了解這些情形，再來確定是否要啟動這個計畫。如果它可以在這4、5年間好好規劃、好好預作準備，我想這樣會是比較好的作業，況且在過程中也會涉及到相關環評及交評必須要做的部分，所以我認為它應該可以趁這幾年好好的做這件事。至於需要的相關配合，因為我們到時候不是只有這個案子，還包括現在看守所、地院及地檢的土地都會一起做整體規劃，因此，到時候的配置可以一起再做修正。 |
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吳委員琪銘：我現在的重點是這個地方興建大巨蛋，在交通方面的問題是否有辦法能夠克服？ |
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吳署長欣修：以目前的條件來講，我認為是比較困難一點，它的道路系統完整性比較不足，因為它的主要聯外道路系統只有一個，如果沒有大眾運輸配合的話，其實是有困難度的。 |
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吳委員琪銘：署長，當地的捷運萬大線及金城交流道的整體開發都即將完成，在即將完成的狀況下，你能否明確說明這塊地是否有辦法興建大巨蛋？ |
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吳署長欣修：應該是這麼說，如果最後決定要做的話，包括現在地檢及地院的地就合併在一起規劃、合併在一起規劃，因為當初講的是公設盡量集中留設、中央集中留設，我們或許就集中大巨蛋，但其他的點就會變成類似住宅區、商業區的整體規劃，本來就是可以做不同的搭配。但我們希望這個案子是確定可行的，再來啟動這個都市計畫，而不是先變了，到最後卻做不到，這樣就會讓整個都市計畫陷入一個僵局，這一點很重要，應該事前做好評估。 |
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吳委員琪銘：現在地方上能接受的，大巨蛋當然是一個選項，再者就是像臺北市的大安森林公園，地方上對這兩者的需求意願都很高，因此我希望未來國土署能好好的規劃這塊土地，好嗎？ |
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吳署長欣修：好，我們一定會努力。 |
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吳委員琪銘：好。 |
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現在請警政署署長。 |
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主席：請署長。 |
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張署長榮興：委員好。 |
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吳委員琪銘：署長好。去年113年7月打詐四法都已經通過，但我看到去年詐騙集團的詐騙金額高達一千三百多億，而且根據昨天的統計，還有881件詐騙案件，金額達到二億多，看起來整個成效並不是很好，該如何解決？詐騙是全國民眾非常痛惡的事情，該如何解決這個部分？既然打詐四法都已經通過了，但是你仍然無法拿出成效？ |
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張署長榮興：報告委員，去年度大概是詐騙的一個高峰，每天大概差不多有4至6億的詐騙金額，去年每個月大概是120億到137億，然而，今年度的詐騙金額從1月份的95億降至2月份的60億、3月份的70億、4月份的76億，現在的詐騙件數及金額已經往好的方向走，但是仍然有很大的努力空間，我們並不因此而滿足。事實上，就是因為透過打詐四法以及國家整個團隊的努力，我想我們會更努力進行打詐的工作，而且就打詐儀錶板的趨勢來看，從去年公布以來，目前這個趨勢是有往下走的傾向。 |
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吳委員琪銘：署長，這樣本席就可以比較放心，不然我們看到的金額還是一樣，沒有很明顯的減少，但是照你這麼說是有明顯減少。所以現在這個問題還是要從源頭處理，就是在網路上，因為打詐四法通過之後能夠跨部會處理，所以我們要在第一時間把它切斷，該移送的就移送，該罰的就要罰。好不好？ |
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張署長榮興：好，謝謝委員。 |
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吳委員琪銘：謝謝署長。 |
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主席（張委員宏陸）：謝謝。 |
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黃國昌、黃國昌、黃國昌委員不在。 |
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請張啓楷委員發言。 |
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委員會-11-3-15-19 |
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張宏陸 |
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蘇巧慧 |
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黃捷 |
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牛煦庭 |
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許宇甄 |
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張智倫 |
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王美惠 |
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高金素梅 |
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徐欣瑩 |
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麥玉珍 |
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李柏毅 |
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吳琪銘 |
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張啓楷 |
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沈伯洋 |
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伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
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丁學忠 |
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275 |
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2025-05-14 |
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1144901 |
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立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議（含秘密會議）紀錄 |
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一、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部及所屬預算解凍案(密件部分)；二、邀請內政部部
長率同所屬列席報告業務概況，並備質詢；三、處理、審查114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部
及所屬預算解凍案(非密件部分) |
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1144901_00005 |