| IVOD_ID |
161375 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161375 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-14 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-14T12:24:01+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-14T12:31:49+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4f2e91488ef6971bb9f6490915ae2309b7f4692fd5f06072c717538999138866e719f831ea1415b15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:24:01 - 12:31:49 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議(事由:一、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部及所屬預算解凍案(密件部分)。【秘密會議】二、邀請內政部部長率同所屬列席報告業務概況,並備質詢。三、處理、審查114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部及所屬預算解凍案(非密件部分)。【秘密會議結束後再進行第二、三項議程】
【5月12日(星期一)、14日(星期三)、15日(星期四)三天一次會】) |
| transcript.pyannote[0].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].start |
6.79784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[0].end |
6.83159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].start |
6.83159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[1].end |
7.11846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].start |
7.11846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[2].end |
7.13534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].start |
8.63721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[3].end |
10.03784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].start |
12.83909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[4].end |
19.48784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].start |
20.09534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[5].end |
22.27221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].start |
23.50409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[6].end |
33.03846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].start |
34.96221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[7].end |
37.56096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].start |
38.50596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[8].end |
44.00721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].start |
44.53034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[9].end |
50.41971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].start |
50.63909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[10].end |
83.08971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].start |
84.25409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[11].end |
84.45659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].start |
84.81096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[12].end |
91.13909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].start |
91.69596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[13].end |
96.42096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].start |
96.60659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[14].end |
100.47096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].start |
96.67409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[15].end |
97.33221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].start |
97.34909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[16].end |
97.51784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].start |
101.16284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[17].end |
104.52096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].start |
101.26409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[18].end |
101.56784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].start |
105.28034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[19].end |
107.30534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].start |
107.55846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[20].end |
108.92534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].start |
109.06034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[21].end |
114.32534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].start |
114.86534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[22].end |
132.46596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].start |
133.36034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[23].end |
133.83284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].start |
133.78221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[24].end |
137.02221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].start |
137.81534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[25].end |
140.31284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].start |
140.58284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[26].end |
142.10159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].start |
142.84409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[27].end |
146.13471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].start |
146.65784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[28].end |
147.19784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].start |
147.65346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[29].end |
147.92346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].start |
147.92346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[30].end |
159.82034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].start |
148.14284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[31].end |
148.15971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].start |
160.07346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[32].end |
189.43596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].start |
190.14471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[33].end |
202.09221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].start |
198.16034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[34].end |
198.41346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].start |
202.86846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[35].end |
204.16784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].start |
204.99471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[36].end |
210.68159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].start |
205.02846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[37].end |
205.61909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].start |
209.23034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[38].end |
218.34284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].start |
218.81534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[39].end |
219.79409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].start |
220.11471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[40].end |
224.87346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].start |
225.22784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[41].end |
231.79221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].start |
230.86409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[42].end |
231.47159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].start |
231.79221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[43].end |
233.12534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].start |
233.47971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[44].end |
246.11909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].start |
246.65909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[45].end |
254.30346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].start |
254.75909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[46].end |
267.46596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].start |
268.34346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[47].end |
272.79846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].start |
273.22034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[48].end |
274.53659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].start |
274.60409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[49].end |
282.97409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].start |
282.06284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[50].end |
282.94034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].start |
282.97409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[51].end |
283.96971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].start |
283.96971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[52].end |
284.03721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].start |
284.03721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[53].end |
284.40846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].start |
284.40846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[54].end |
284.45909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].start |
284.45909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[55].end |
284.50971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].start |
284.50971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[56].end |
284.56034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].start |
284.56034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[57].end |
284.57721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].start |
284.57721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[58].end |
284.72909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].start |
284.72909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[59].end |
284.96534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].start |
284.96534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[60].end |
285.13409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].start |
285.13409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[61].end |
285.18471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].start |
285.18471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[62].end |
287.02409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].start |
287.02409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[63].end |
287.20971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].start |
288.18846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[64].end |
288.22221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].start |
288.22221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[65].end |
288.47534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].start |
288.47534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[66].end |
288.52596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].start |
290.23034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[67].end |
290.33159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].start |
290.33159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[68].end |
290.39909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].start |
290.39909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[69].end |
290.44971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].start |
290.44971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[70].end |
290.55096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].start |
290.55096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[71].end |
290.70284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].start |
290.88846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[72].end |
296.92971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].start |
295.76534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[73].end |
300.52409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].start |
299.54534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[74].end |
305.58659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].start |
303.44346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[75].end |
303.84846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].start |
305.92409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[76].end |
322.52909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].start |
308.77596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[77].end |
309.97409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].start |
312.26909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[78].end |
312.79221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].start |
322.74846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[79].end |
324.09846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].start |
325.19534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[80].end |
325.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].start |
325.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[81].end |
327.03471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].start |
327.60846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[82].end |
327.62534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].start |
327.62534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[83].end |
331.50659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].start |
331.84409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[84].end |
334.64534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].start |
333.83534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[85].end |
344.51721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].start |
340.33221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[86].end |
341.49659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].start |
343.16721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[87].end |
348.90471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].start |
347.04846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[88].end |
351.62159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].start |
351.77346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[89].end |
364.37909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].speaker |
SPEAKER_03 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].start |
353.39346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[90].end |
353.83221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].start |
353.83221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[91].end |
353.86596875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].start |
364.96971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[92].end |
374.63909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].start |
369.00284375 |
| transcript.pyannote[93].end |
370.03221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].start |
375.39846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[94].end |
378.04784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].start |
375.53346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[95].end |
376.88346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].start |
378.79034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[96].end |
379.06034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].speaker |
SPEAKER_02 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].start |
379.06034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[97].end |
380.98409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].start |
380.98409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[98].end |
381.01784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].start |
381.62534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[99].end |
385.03409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].start |
386.40096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[100].end |
398.21346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].start |
398.21346875 |
| transcript.pyannote[101].end |
398.44971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].start |
398.24721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[102].end |
398.26409375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].start |
398.39909375 |
| transcript.pyannote[103].end |
399.95159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].start |
400.00221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[104].end |
430.22534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].start |
407.64659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[105].end |
408.05159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].start |
408.49034375 |
| transcript.pyannote[106].end |
410.44784375 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].start |
430.47846875 |
| transcript.pyannote[107].end |
435.08534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].start |
433.97159375 |
| transcript.pyannote[108].end |
442.39221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].start |
442.56096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[109].end |
452.85471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].start |
444.95721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[110].end |
445.26096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].start |
452.90534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[111].end |
456.97221875 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].start |
453.00659375 |
| transcript.pyannote[112].end |
453.71534375 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].start |
456.22971875 |
| transcript.pyannote[113].end |
465.81471875 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].speaker |
SPEAKER_00 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].start |
464.39721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[114].end |
465.24096875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].speaker |
SPEAKER_01 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].start |
468.17721875 |
| transcript.pyannote[115].end |
468.97034375 |
| gazette.lineno |
690 |
| gazette.blocks[0][0] |
張委員宏陸:(12時24分)先請警政署長。 |
| gazette.blocks[1][0] |
張署長榮興:委員好。 |
| gazette.blocks[2][0] |
張委員宏陸:署長,詐騙真的是大家非常關心的問題,現在詐騙集團在網路上有許多像是一頁式等等之類的手法,我們真的是無計可施嗎? |
| gazette.blocks[3][0] |
張署長榮興:報告委員,不會無計可施,這些詐騙者最主要是透過網路平台投放詐騙的訊息,站在國家整體的立場,我們是整體的合作,包括數發部、通傳會、金管會、內政部及法務部。有關這些詐騙訊息的源頭,雖然主管機關在數發部,但我們警政署也會與數發部共同合作,針對這些詐騙的訊息,除了民眾的檢舉之外,我們也會主動搜尋,舉例來講,從今年元月到現在大概已經發現了五萬六千多則詐騙廣告,也會移交主管機關進行下架的處理。 |
| gazette.blocks[4][0] |
張委員宏陸:其實有很多社群媒體一看就知道是詐騙的廣告,為什麼還是可以一再的出現?有的還是重複喔! |
| gazette.blocks[5][0] |
張署長榮興:對。 |
| gazette.blocks[6][0] |
張委員宏陸:可能連著幾個禮拜都是看到那個廣告喔! |
| gazette.blocks[7][0] |
張署長榮興:委員,針對這些廣告,我們的詐防條例已經規範得很清楚,廣告業者本身要主動偵測、刪除,並不是全靠警方或數發部告發。詐防條例規定得很清楚,如果這些廣告平台業者違反規定,我的看法就是要處罰,讓這些廣告無法持續再重複上架。 |
| gazette.blocks[8][0] |
張委員宏陸:現在受到處罰的有多少件? |
| gazette.blocks[9][0] |
張署長榮興:根據數發部給我們的資料,目前還沒有受到處罰的案件。 |
| gazette.blocks[10][0] |
張委員宏陸:對啊!它就說它的IP在國外,所以無法處罰啊!如果在這樣的循環之下,永遠都處罰不到,它只要一直換IP、一直換IP,廣告就繼續上啊! |
| gazette.blocks[11][0] |
張署長榮興:報告委員,目前我們與數發部有一個平台,只要發現有重複且未實名制的廣告,我們就會把這些資料提供給數發部作為裁罰的依據。上次我們在立法院也接受過委員的質詢,對於這些裁罰的程序及基準,數發部也正在處理當中。 |
| gazette.blocks[12][0] |
張委員宏陸:像是裁罰等等的當然都需要,但如何讓民眾知道這就是詐騙,我覺得是更重要的。 |
| gazette.blocks[13][0] |
張署長榮興:是。 |
| gazette.blocks[14][0] |
張委員宏陸:我不知道我們有多少人力在處理這一塊,譬如監看一些社群平台,是否有人力做這件事? |
| gazette.blocks[15][0] |
張署長榮興:我們有刑事局的專責人員監看這些社群平台,除了這些專責人力之外,其實全國的警察單位在打詐的工作上,每個人都是有能力觀看網路平台上的詐騙樣態。 |
| gazette.blocks[16][0] |
張委員宏陸:我問這個並不是要求你們,而是想知道你們的人力夠不夠?你們是否每天都做這件事?如果人力夠,不增加負擔,而且是每天做這件事,我覺得他們其實都比我們更專業,一看就知道是不是詐騙。 |
| gazette.blocks[17][0] |
張署長榮興:對。 |
| gazette.blocks[18][0] |
張委員宏陸:在它還未下架前,警政署能不能以你們的專業設置一個網站,讓所有人點進去就能看到所有最新的詐騙手法,譬如樣態一、樣態二等等,讓大家只要進去你們的網站就能看到最新的詐騙型態,我覺得這樣做比你們之後再去懲處能更有效預防,這個能不能做得到? |
| gazette.blocks[19][0] |
張署長榮興:好,我們會把這個部分帶回去與刑事局進行研議,有一些廣告…… |
| gazette.blocks[20][0] |
張委員宏陸:刑事局就在這裡,他現在就可以回答。 |
| gazette.blocks[21][0] |
張署長榮興:有一些廣告怕是真的啦! |
| gazette.blocks[22][0] |
周局長幼偉:報告委員,針對這個部分,我們也有與科技公司合作。事實上,我們所有同仁都針對這個部分做一個…… |
| gazette.blocks[23][0] |
張委員宏陸:不是、不是,你就回答剛剛我問的那個是否可能做得到? |
| gazette.blocks[24][0] |
周局長幼偉:那個沒有問題,但問題是他們的態樣一直變化很多,我們可能今天做了,明天他們已經不一樣了。 |
| gazette.blocks[25][0] |
張委員宏陸:當然是這樣,所以我的意思是你們要一直更新啊! |
| gazette.blocks[26][0] |
周局長幼偉:沒問題啊! |
| gazette.blocks[27][0] |
張委員宏陸:不是你今天做了之後就放一個禮拜、一個月,每天發現、每天更新,我的意思就是這樣啊! |
| gazette.blocks[28][0] |
周局長幼偉:沒問題啊! |
| gazette.blocks[29][0] |
張委員宏陸:如果你們人力可以的情況下,讓全臺灣的民眾知道最新的詐騙樣態是什麼,你們看可不可以啊? |
| gazette.blocks[30][0] |
周局長幼偉:事實上,我們的打詐儀錶板都會把新的犯罪案例提出來,每天也都可以看到新的犯罪手法。 |
| gazette.blocks[31][0] |
張委員宏陸:我覺得大家都有看打詐儀錶板,但現在我指的是一個專門的網頁,只要一點進去就能知道最新的樣態,而且不要複雜,讓所有人都能看得到。 |
| gazette.blocks[32][0] |
周局長幼偉:其實165就是統合所有的資料庫,無論是犯罪預防或是其他部分。 |
| gazette.blocks[33][0] |
張委員宏陸:你們都沒有每天更新啊! |
| gazette.blocks[34][0] |
周局長幼偉:有。 |
| gazette.blocks[35][0] |
張委員宏陸:不是,我要求的這種是,因為詐騙手法日新月異,但我並沒有要求你即時…… |
| gazette.blocks[36][0] |
張署長榮興:委員,我們來檢討處理。 |
| gazette.blocks[37][0] |
張委員宏陸:即時是誰都做不到,但至少要有最新的讓大家知道嘛! |
| gazette.blocks[38][0] |
張署長榮興:委員,我們這個…… |
| gazette.blocks[39][0] |
張委員宏陸:部長,你覺得可以嗎? |
| gazette.blocks[40][0] |
張署長榮興:可以,我們來專責處理。 |
| gazette.blocks[41][0] |
張委員宏陸:你覺得我這個建議可以嗎? |
| gazette.blocks[42][0] |
劉部長世芳:我知道委員講的意思,我們會檢討改進,可以把最新的樣態po上去,但是有一些樣態,包括最近在偏鄉地區發生的,我也都有看過,其實都有追蹤啦! |
| gazette.blocks[43][0] |
張委員宏陸:部長,很簡單啦!我只是要你們把新的樣態拿上去,沒有要你們做到即時,因為即時是不可能做到的。 |
| gazette.blocks[44][0] |
劉部長世芳:我知道,可以啦!我們來檢討、我們來檢討。 |
| gazette.blocks[45][0] |
張委員宏陸:包括部長所講偏鄉的部分,其實有許多年長者都是由外勞照顧,我覺得我們往後能否再思考一下,如何去接觸這些外勞,讓他們能夠告知長者,這些都是詐騙,不然兒子女兒都不在身邊,其實都是這些外勞在陪伴他們看手機。 |
| gazette.blocks[46][0] |
劉部長世芳:報告委員,我們現在已經注意到這個部分,包括農會或郵政系統,在臨櫃的部分都已經做了加強,但是在外勞的部分,我們還要再加強一下。此外,我們現在也鼓勵金融機關可以在ATM註明詐騙的部分,但是並不容易,因為金融機關有他們自己的考量。 |
| gazette.blocks[47][0] |
張委員宏陸:我知道,現在我就是給你們一個方向,如果可以就去處理即可,也沒要求你們一次就做到100分,那是不可能的啊! |
| gazette.blocks[48][0] |
劉部長世芳:謝謝。 |
| gazette.blocks[49][0] |
張委員宏陸:好,謝謝。 |
| gazette.blocks[50][0] |
主席:謝謝張宏陸召委。 |
| gazette.blocks[50][1] |
接下來請吳琪銘委員。 |
| gazette.agenda.page_end |
332 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-3-15-19 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[0] |
張宏陸 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
蘇巧慧 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
黃捷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
牛煦庭 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
許宇甄 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
張智倫 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
王美惠 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
高金素梅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
徐欣瑩 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
麥玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
李柏毅 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
吳琪銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
張啓楷 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
沈伯洋 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
伍麗華Saidhai‧Tahovecahe |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
丁學忠 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
275 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2025-05-14 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1144901 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1144901_00006 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議(含秘密會議)紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
一、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部及所屬預算解凍案(密件部分);二、邀請內政部部
長率同所屬列席報告業務概況,並備質詢;三、處理、審查114年度中央政府總預算有關內政部
及所屬預算解凍案(非密件部分) |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1144901_00005 |