IVOD_ID |
161337 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161337 |
日期 |
2025-05-14 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-13 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
13 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
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會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第13次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-05-14T11:00:00+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-05-14T11:08:09+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:08:09 |
支援功能[0] |
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video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/4f2e91488ef6971b82ba8c43ddc1632cd304acf7f12681bdab8e08a4c8c917925ffaa6d71c87aaa95ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
陳永康 |
委員發言時間 |
11:00:00 - 11:08:09 |
會議時間 |
2025-05-14T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第13次全體委員會議(事由:處理院會交付114年度中央政府總預算決議,國防部主管預算凍結案等54案。(詳如附件)) |
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好 主席有請部長 顧部長有請顧部長 謝謝攝影師好 部長好本來今天這個 |
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聚焦是讨论预算解冻所以在之前我并没有登记发言但是因为前面听到了几位委员那么这个质询有关国际情势以及预算冻结会不会影响到国军的战力甚至油盐转战 |
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我覺得扭曲了方向我不針對個人來講那現在我就特別對印阿戰爭這個印巴戰爭的這個衝突性以及一些分析的方法我提供國防部做個參考 |
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因為我這是臨時決定所以只是傳了三張圖本來這個圖都是動態的第一個就是10號雖然宣布停火了但是小型的衝突還是有發生最主要就是當兩個國家有空中衝突的時候第一個給我們的不是國際媒體的報導 |
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因为如果你有个软体你是付钱客户的话你可以看国际民航的机的航道也就知道它是最敏感的第一个航线取消第二个改道所以你用Flightradar24用付款的客户的话你可以回溯到哪一天哪一天当时的民航机立刻改道这是一个预警第二个就是说涵盖大范围的图像 |
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國防部已經強調了現在都在進行這個所謂J-Cup但是呢那是你的功能整合可是你對於 |
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民間或是對於我們的國安團隊或者是對比較高階的長官要做報告的時候你不能用一張單獨透明圖涵蓋所以你可以看到這個圖的是涵蓋印度巴基斯坦實際上這個原始檔案是套在衛星照片上這個飛機是動態的圖那麼就是克什米爾的衝突就在中間的那個方塊上面我們再進到下一張圖 |
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刚才也有委员讲说不要被媒体战心理战误导了中国的东西厉不厉害是一回事我们要了解敌方的强点怎么样预防那么发现我的不足地方怎么强化这一次在巴基斯坦国际媒体记者会说他用的是令克妖怪 |
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这个是吃豆腐了因为在2001年呢4月1号美国的EP3在南海跟中共创机那这个飞机啊紧急迫降在临水机场这个飞机被中共扣了14天美国当时讲啊你扣一天呢我就提供台湾一个军售所以那个2001年了美国通过13项军售但后面执行状况我们不是今天的重点在这个14天中间呢 |
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中国大陆把美国这个飞机拆解逆向工程我相信在部分Link16的通讯的一些框架概念架构上面他们得到了一些技术逆向工程然后这个飞机拆解的最后是跟俄罗斯租飞机运回美国去这个图是一个矩阵的方块图那一般我们的媒体都说是这个利用这个ZK3直接 |
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帶飛機 管飛彈 那個技術工程他們不懂 我不批評這個裡面告訴你是一個網路架構 |
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那我们国军也有这个网络架构可是这个网络架构呈现出来的东西你必须用一个图像就像在右下角的那个中间克什米尔那个冲突点的爆发地方都可以显示出来那么根据这个巴基斯坦国际媒体的讲是打掉三架标峰一架苏凯三四一架米格二十九 |
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那還有一架無人機那這個印度呢對外就講他損失三價不講細節這些啊如果你沒有一個完整的 |
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网络格局的框架有时候对别人解释是比较难的它不是点度点它是进到系统的框架里面然后做目标的分配至于预警机本身它的项链雷达搜索式的主动项链雷达被动式项链雷达它能不能去控制飞弹的频道那是另外一回事我们就不去谈判看下一张图 |
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这个图就是给我们做一个国军要做个参考我们现在平常去报告有关这个中共的威胁在台海周遭活动我们只是聚焦在防空识别区以及周遭一点点范围这个是这个今年的3月底这个山东号穿越那我相信我们的航机都有追踪可是对于日本的防空识别区 |
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東海防空事務局的涵蓋範圍重疊區以及鄰近國家的涵蓋範圍如果能夠標註上去你就知道他另外有四條船從東海艦隊下來跟他會合穿越宮古水道的時候實際上日本是全程掌握但這個情資有沒有跟我們互惠分享 |
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可能没有及时分享但是还是可以当然交换那这个图我给的建议就是说我们必须建立一个幅员比较大的一个图包括了你的防控识别区包括你的临海基线包括对方的驻地那个是公开资料那用这个情况下 |
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對於我們在部內開會或跨部會開會或是提供我們高階的到國安會去的時候你看到的是一個完整的構想而不是一個空的圖那麼那個距離是比較難的我這個是特別提供聯二或者是我們做勤研單位做個分析這一次的 |
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硬扒双方的国际记者会我建议大家去把它英文版的看下来然后交叉比对而不是说因为我们国队的媒体报道就被洗脑了中国大陆他现在技术有突破也有从过去的资料立项工程达到的我们一直是美国的使用客户有些东西要做精进像这一次 |
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巴基斯坦承认美国不准他使用F16只准做境内的防空但不能做公式行动像这些东西如果你把印巴的我想后面我们下次说提供一个完整的印巴的作战图像给各位做一个参考我们要共同努力也是希望这个 |
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这是给我们一个例子谢谢 |
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我想我們對剛剛陳委員指教我們是對全境都有您剛剛的圖示這樣的前進是都有所掌握那有關於這一次的相關在印巴衝突之中的這些相關的一些作為我想我們密切的來收住以後我們會來有一個應對的一個作為這樣那林鶴要不要補充還是 |
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報委員 聯合次長在這邊跟您做報告您剛剛所指教的我們會列入後面深入探討的重點那另外還有一些可能也不適合在工程上面跟您做報告的我們後面如果您需要的話我們會再跟您做說明 謝謝好 謝謝 大家共同努力好 謝謝 謝謝委員 |