| IVOD_ID |
161201 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161201 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-12 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-15-19 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
19 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
15 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
內政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-12T09:51:21+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-12T09:59:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/2e24114430e85d5232f05a9c703c0f4335f3e47612ac34e98c36c5eeff8411ba7f835724aeec88dc5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張宏陸 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:51:21 - 09:59:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-12T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期內政委員會第19次全體委員會議（事由：一、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關海洋委員會及所屬預算解凍案。二、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關不當黨產處理委員會預算解凍案。三、處理、審查114年度中央政府總預算有關中央選舉委員會及所屬預算解凍案。四、處理114年度中央政府總預算有關大陸委員會預算解凍案。五、處理、審查114年度中央政府總預算有關客家委員會及所屬預算解凍案。
【5月12日（星期一）、14日（星期三）、15日（星期四）三天一次會】） |
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我請陸委會邱主委請邱主委謝謝 |
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邱主委我想請教,最近大家在講的福建的赴美宮這件事情你知道嗎?是,能夠了解如果說中國的宮廟來台灣參與遶境或什麼的,有違法嗎? |
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我們現在是不樂見他們來這裡進行遶境那最主要是說他們以主神的地位來我們地方巡視他連在神的世界都要矮化台灣 |
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那這個部分我們就希望宗教交流能夠回歸到宗教的專業交流所謂專業交流它在儀軌上面在儀式方面在這個 |
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研議方面能夠進行專業交流不要要去統戰化去政治化回歸到專業化單純化的專業交流不是真正的專業宗教人士我們都會提高審查的門檻強化審查的力度 |
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主委我覺得你跟我的看法是一樣啦但我覺得就只要白話的講啦神的交流也是要平等啦對不對就是這樣嘛神的交流你也不能用統戰的矮話但 |
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我必須要說這只是冰山的一角你應該也知道有更多的他們跟台灣的宮廟的這些交流然後有很多的問題出現那我想請問一下我們現在兩岸 |
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除了飛機、航空業的直航之外,我們的海運目前有直航嗎?是,貨運有直航不是啊,我當然知道,我說人啊喔,客運沒有客運沒有嘛,對不對?那所以在這種情況之下這個福建的這個廟,他們的神像來台灣對,他怎麼來的? |
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是,跟委員報告,我們也在清查,因為您剛剛講的那個赴美工,我們並沒有他申請來台的申請記錄。但是他卻用他的神教,在我們這次的媽祖的繞行活動出現。 |
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甚至到不同宮廟不同縣市的宮廟去做遶境這個我們深感覺得這是到底在歸併審查呢還是一種虛假的一種交流我們正在會從主管機關查處當中對我覺得這要快第一個是 |
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海運沒有客運對不對那一般我們所了解的如果神像你是坐飛機的話幾乎大部分的也都會買一個位置吧那你從航空公司去清查去什麼我覺得一個很重要的一點 |
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到底是不是真的有中國的這個赴美工這個他的神像有來台灣還是一切根本就是一個一個幌子我覺得這點才要查清楚 |
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是 跟委員報告 事實上我們跟移民署合作在錦町這個有人的檢舉我們已經都有直接到現場去追蹤那我們現在還要進一步的去了解到底是由國人 |
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是國人代替拿進來或是由國人負責去繞行但是有沒有中國大陸人士他沒有經過申請這個以不符合用其他的名義進來但是卻在繞行這些宗教交流這個是我們查處的重點 |
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我覺得啦台灣是一個宗教信仰自由的國家啦你不管全世界各國的神明或什麼的他要來台灣只要通過合法的管道我覺得我們都應該歡迎啦我們是一個宗教自由的國家但是我們不歡迎就是他不是我們核准自由進行的這個教育對我的意思就是這樣所以你這個要查很好查啊對不對是 |
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有沒有入出境紀錄有沒有什麼的這個很好查嘛我覺得就給國人一個很明確的他到底有沒有這件事這件事是不是事實我個人以這樣來判斷我覺得裡面問題很有很多啦所以你應該跟各單位去把它查清楚讓國人知道我覺得這是今天要跟你說的好不好謝謝 謝謝委員那來我再請來請回我再請客委會 |
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這個那個谷主委我覺得這個我們現在客委會配合文化部國家語言整體發展方案其實在很多地方行政區排上有加注客語拼音的標示對不對可是 |
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主委我不知道你自己有沒有去現場看你在這些的地方其實車流量應該是蠻大或什麼 |
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車速也很快其實來不及看我不知道主委你有沒有注意到這個我注意到了是那個去年有發生過這樣的情況那所以我們我請我們那個副主委跟單位同仁還有邀請各縣市的交通單位還有那個相關的單位一起來會商其實這個要改進確實是有改進的空間是做得不夠好不夠 |
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不是 我不是要說你們做得不夠好啦我是覺得啦齁這個一開始的出發點是對的是對 是啊但你用在那邊那個齁車速都很快根本來不及看是我覺得啦那你不如齁比如說有 |
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你要進去的時候進去客家莊的時候你要這個那我覺得你不如在客家莊裡面的很多你們現在辦的很多活動不如多一點這些客語的這些注音或什麼的我覺得反而大家慢慢走或是在逛的時候更容易看清楚 |
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我的建議是這樣,不要主委的看法它有分好幾種,一種是路標,一種是地名的標示好幾種,人行可以停留的跟車行觀看的指標不一樣所以這有很多的分類,我們去年已經開始在著手討論這個部分了我們確實有注意到這是很細緻的問題,所以應該要改善 |
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好 你們知道 你們去改善就好是 謝謝 |