IVOD_ID |
161119 |
IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161119 |
日期 |
2025-05-08 |
會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-11 |
會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
會議資料.屆 |
11 |
會議資料.會期 |
3 |
會議資料.會次 |
11 |
會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
影片種類 |
Clip |
開始時間 |
2025-05-08T12:42:26+08:00 |
結束時間 |
2025-05-08T12:53:09+08:00 |
影片長度 |
00:10:43 |
支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/26c557d936b203c18306a2a8f1bd81a3e0059966c803d0e9567847e18f9cb5878fc881b9a350622d5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
委員名稱 |
陳玉珍 |
委員發言時間 |
12:42:26 - 12:53:09 |
會議時間 |
2025-05-08T09:00:00+08:00 |
會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第11次全體委員會議(事由:邀請行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、中央銀行楊總裁金龍、國家發展委員會劉主任委員鏡清、勞動部洪部長申翰、銓敘部施部長能傑就「我國如果要設立國家主權基金,中央銀行與政府相關基金(如四大基金等)所扮演的角色為何?」進行專題報告,並備質詢。
【5月7日及8日二天一次會】) |
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主席 請主席長主席長我看到這個在總質詢的時候這個我們院長有說啦115年的總運算是依照新的財化法編列沒錯吧你們說財化法要提釋憲對不對 |
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有 已經提了嗎有 已經提出來了就對了是不是會照新的來編 政院的發言人李慧芝有說新版財化法裡面 地方的政府財源會大幅增加所以會研議優先減劣地方補助款對不對對不起 你戴口罩大聲一點 我聽不太見 |
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優先檢列地方補助款優先檢列地方補助款是一般性補助款還是計畫性補助款 |
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兩個都有兩個都會減劣就對了是不是但是我們新版的採訪法第30條第三項有規定啊你知道嗎我們有這個規定吧中央政府給予地方政府之一般性補助款向金額不得少於修正實行前一年預算編列數啊意思說一般性補助款你們是不能減的啊但是一般性補助款有很多種啊什麼意思 |
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一般性補助款的項目非常的多對,我不管一般性補助款有幾種項目但採訪法新的我們通過這個採訪法有明文規定不得少於修正施行前一年的預算編列數所以你不要遵守我們會遵守所以一般性補助款你不能減你可以減計劃型補助我們可以減項目用其他的來彌補減什麼 |
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項目不同的 因為它有很多不同的項目項目沒關係 但是金額 當然這說的是金額金額會維持金額會照這個 照這個心法 那好那現在因為在 現在時程來講現在在編概算了嘛正常是4月到5月吧 對吧我這個中央政府總預算的編成一個時間表現在是4月到5月那請問這個中央對我們地方各地方的統籌分配稅款的額度什麼時候會出來 |
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什麼時候出來地方才好做他們一百一十五年地方的這個編列一些計畫什麼來做什麼時候會出來因為現在已經已經在邊蓋算了四月到五月在邊蓋算了這是財政部的業務請財政部來說明財政部市長什麼時候會出來市長 |
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就對於這個各縣市的統籌分配款稅的那個額度什麼時候會出來因為第一五年你們在編了嘛地方也要開始那個嘛 準備對 因為現在有兩個問題啦因為現在就是說今年剛好就是因為出口旺盛所以呢 營業稅退稅特別多那另外呢 所留稅我們結算申報延後一個月所以目前啦 我們的裁員是不足的所以我們現在有找這個地方政府來開會 |
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所以我們目前這個有關這個統籌分稅款這部分現在是目前是有一點打折啦但是等到這個結算申報結束以後有裁員之後沒關係那是什麼時候幾月份可以編出來 |
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幾月 幾月 最慢是八月份啦八月喔 所以八月才可以算最慢 最慢 最慢半應該說這樣 八月以前你會給這個答案啦我相信應該會早一點啦好 八月以前會給這個地方 各個地方因為這個地方也要編他們的其他各方面要給地方一點時間 |
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那請問主計總署你們有發行給各個縣市還有直轄政府說114年中央對地方政府一般性補助款5月到12月的分配數改為未分配數嘛對不對就是這個因為你們現在在財務法在做一些有一些總預算啦總預算也在做救濟嘛對不對是不是總預算也在做救濟嘛也在申請這個市縣是不是 |
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以我們基本來講 本來一般性補助款5到12月本來分配數是10億多現在改成5億多其他改為未分配數那你說要等救濟結果而定是等釋憲 救濟結果是釋憲嗎對等釋憲 如果今年底都沒辦法釋憲呢沒有結果咧這筆錢是要不要分 要不要發出來 |
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那到時候再看 要三減哪一項 因為現在要三減636還沒有確認 |
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不是啊 你這樣子這個地方怎麼施政呢現在5月到12月要怎麼施政你都給一半 對不對那到底地方不就整個政務會停頓嗎整個都會影響啊所以你什麼時候 有一個時間吧如果到年底都沒有咧所以也是會給是不是 你也是會給 |
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也不一定會給,也有可能變零就對啊有可能變零因為如果說到時候要刪減的話,那就會刪減所以有可能,所以他的本來是50%也可能會變成零嘛那你們如果有這樣方向打算也要早一點讓地方政府知道啊不然地方政府到底他現在5月到12月要怎麼施政嘛是,我們會盡量,盡量這個那早一點嘛,好那接著,謝謝主委長,接著我們請這個總裁辛苦了,總裁 |
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所以我一開始我的聲明就是說因為我口才不好所以呢會有結痂的現象 |
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所以也不是說因為我結結巴巴才會言不可忠而且又說我就是因為我不善於說謊才會這樣結結巴巴好像就是說我就是說謊 |
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沒有啦 沒有說你說謊啦你直接叭叭嘛 就是你不想說謊 但是又不知道怎麼回答嘛有提問你也沒有辦法回答沒關係啦 不正義這個齁 來星哥 我要問你實質的問題齁這個 剛剛也很多人問過啦 也沒有所謂的澎懷蘭防線啦也沒有所謂楊金總防線 也沒有什麼利守30塊大關啦齁這些防線都沒有啦齁那但是 你也知道現在很多這個 |
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商人出貨商很辛苦啊對你很嚴重的挑戰那這個台幣升值是不是台美的談判議題呢這個我們也問了我們也問了那這個這個卓榮泰院長有說未來不敢動我問他的時候他說 |
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你看我們在中央是說沒有觸及這個議題啦卓院長是說我那天問他說沒有啦現在說未來不一定啦好那你也說你們沒有參加台美金剛工作小組對沒有你們沒有美國也沒有要求你們嘛對沒有那所以你可以承諾匯率不會是台美談判議題嗎不是我現在又要回過頭來要講就是說事實上我們跟美國財政部 |
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因為我們固定是兩次但是我們大部分就是說它的匯率報告出來之前會有一次所以它一年是兩個匯率報告以前它都是在四月中以前一個是在十月中以前 |
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所以我要跟委員報告就是說事實上我們一直在強調就是說我們跟美國財政部溝通良好我的意思是說什麼就是說我們在這個議題方面我們都互相的信任 |
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第二點我們隨時有什麼問題要跟他請教的時候我們都隨時都可以熱線不斷沒有問題有熱線就對了中美是跟他們的總裁所以我們說溝通良好就是這個意思 |
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但是那個 我們的總統也好 我們的院長也好都說這次談判是沒有談到匯率吧是沒有啊你也說沒有嘛 對那那個 南韓那個央行的那個總裁是說謊的嗎我就說 我就說這個前面你認識他嗎我認識他我認識他你認識他啊我認識他所以 所以 但他說美國有他沒有說什麼施壓啦他只有說是不一定是會這樣但是有談到這一題所以 所以 |
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所以我應該比較相信你啦不過我跟委員報告啦就是說所以南韓這個央行總裁可能說的不是實話啊我不曉得這些只有一個人說的是實話嘛因為他有說台灣啊他說美國和日本、台灣、馬來西亞也有談到嘛他不知道所以要嘛就是耐心的這種說法要嘛就是南韓這個央行總裁說法因為他對我們台灣他不曉得啊 |
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我現在 我也不曉得說他們滿欄有沒有跟他談 我也不曉得啊那他有提到啊所以我就覺得奇怪反正要嘛就戴總統說謊 要嘛就央行我覺得誰說謊 誰不說謊你沒有辦法判斷喔 我也沒有辦法判斷 沒關係喔不過我要強調的就是說 我要講的實話我講的是實話 |
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你講的是實話你講的一定是實話不是要不結結巴巴的時候總裁我想請教你一題最後一題來上一次半年一次匯率報告上次是11月5號繼續被列為匯率超重國的觀察名單請問這一次你預測會繼續列還是會升級你說什麼這一次因為匯率報告美國財政部那個 |
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如果說據他這三個三項標準的話呢我們還是觀察名單啦所以你覺得應該還是會再觀察名單啦是啦是啦好 謝謝總裁好 謝謝陳益智委員的質詢 |