| IVOD_ID |
161071 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161071 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-06 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-06T17:33:22+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-06T17:44:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:10:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/db1f27f75049202657c571dbf1ec224c5a34676b6303881097e39277836b040fb53d9e6741251f855ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱若華 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:33:22 - 17:44:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-06T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、5月2日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月6日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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主席有請行政院卓院長及衛福部邱部長麻煩再請卓院長衛福部長備詢邱委員好院長好 院長辛苦了 部長好院長我們先來看到這張圖 |
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這張圖是我們桃園復興區的雪屋鬧道路因為山崩導致道路中斷的現場照復興區它屬於偏遠地區雨勢一大或是颱風一來的時候道路中斷是常態目前涉及在當地的大約有需要定期洗腎的病患大約有60人而且還有許多場依賴 |
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依賴長期慢性病處方的居民那如果在需要取得藥物的時候道路又中斷的時候民眾可以怎麼辦請問院長 部長 |
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道路中斷的時候在我國偏遠地區可能要用空中運送的方式沒錯就是無人機本席今天要和院長討論無人機的議題那我們再接著看這是近期台北醫學大學新國民醫院與桃園市政府衛生局合作在復興區設立的洗腎中心對地方的醫療資源 |
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進步的提升確實是一大步那現在居住在山區的病患呢終於能夠就近來接受血液透析治療本席考院長一個問題您知道洗身一次大概需要用上多少生理食鹽水嗎不好意思洗身一次需要用上多少生理食鹽水大概要兩千CC |
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洗身一次至少就要用上一千五百CC部長您說兩千CC今天如果道路中斷的話連那麼基本的醫療物資都沒有辦法運送基層再怎麼努力也是徒勞所以院長我們看到本期要向您反映的是缺藥的風險它不只存在我們桃園復興區 |
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那它也可能會發生在我國的偏鄉嘛那尤其在交通中斷還有天災的時候那這種情況下剛剛院長有提到就是無人機來做運送嘛那這也是攸關病患生命安全的大事院長您認為無人機它是否在我國它可以來運用來幫助偏鄉呢在緊急還有特殊的情況下我們也希望發展無人機能夠 |
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真正最大的用途平常就是在這個救災救難的時候它可以發揮人力所不能到達的地方去那本席在這邊就是請問就是我們部長您的態度呢我想在道路壯斷我們台灣從921以後其實也發生過幾次 |
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不管是土石流 各個地方 南投 桃園其實那個時候 藥物真的都是相當的缺乏有必要的時候 我想吳仁基是應該可以解決問題有必要的時候 因為本席也有和育然所表示 |
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在進行無人機送藥的試驗那醫院所他們有說他們已經向衛福部反映相關的問題可是目前都卡在制度面還有法規那衛福部籌備偏鄉常態系的無人機送藥模式它需要鬆綁現行藥師法的規定藥物必須由藥師來親自交給民眾當然我們也是尊重藥師他的專業還有他的職責那請問院長部長我們什麼時候可以來檢討這個法規呢並且來做修法的作業 |
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好 最近我們舉辦了黑客鬆的一個就是等於是AI啦 資訊的比賽那這個無人機送藥這個計畫是得到第一名所以我們非常重視這樣的一個我猜它的準確度要到哪裡真的是會送到哪裡本身要和您討論的是目前就是卡在衛福部我們何時可以來做鬆綁要實法的問題要親自調劑 |
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那這個部分有兩個部分可以來討論第一個就是說在緊急的狀況的時候其實是可以有彈性第二個其實配合視訊 |
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這個法例我們來處理指導那邊的人怎麼用藥這樣也相對的是有調劑那這個部分我想我們必須跟藥界方面來那不只是調劑那還有醫療資源的部分那今天就是因為還卡在食藥署以及衛福部所以我們必須要來重新檢討法規 |
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我們一邊發展 因為現在已經有一個計畫在做了這個計畫確實已經在做了可是需要衛福部來做跨部會的整合北西鄉請教部長衛福部什麼時候可以來做協調那這個法規何時可以來做鬆綁 |
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我們在這個事辦計畫裡面其中有一個關鍵當然就是要去溝通這個藥師法裡面的因為無人機送藥它今天不只光靠技術就可以完成那不只藥要送的出去還要送的安全因為藥品它可能需要冷藏它也要避免日曬我們也要追蹤它的 |
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他的濕度那這些技術的標準還有醫藥品他的品項的配套品質都我們也必須要納入考量那這部分因為涉及到醫藥專業必須要有衛福部的專業介介入啊有沒問題我們就成立了殺我們現在的計畫就是無人機殺送藥沙盒計畫計畫那就是一種常識的計畫那他騙騙 |
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面臨到兩個關鍵問題第一個 航線的問題你也不能去影響到本來的一些航線航線的部分沒問題本席可以和我們交通部 應援所來做溝通可是目前就是因為衛福部還沒有鬆綁所以沒有辦法來進行實際後續的我們趕快來溝通好了趕快來溝通那部長您可不可以在三個月內提出完整的事辦報告呢 |
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好沒問題那法規的修訂還有進度草案的方向跨部會的去做一些溝通還有軍方還有交通部跨部會要做一些溝通如果需要我們會院裡面來協助是喔謝謝院長那部長這邊本席也要求喔那藥品的冷鏈還有運送的品質規範那實際的試辦成果還有成效評估三個月內有沒有辦法提供 |
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應該可以 初步的報告初步的報告因為他有一定計畫的期程但是三個月我想應該就要呈現報告那希望 組長請在三個月內提供給本市報告那院長我們接下來看 |
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就是桃園市政府正式宣布的重大建設在巴德消理公園將設立桃園市立醫院總院採BOT的方式興建投資金額高達90億未來設置499床的急性一般病床還有150床專科與特殊的病床提供24小時的兒科急診還有長照婦幼醫療服務預計2033年底營運他會以區域醫院還有準醫學中心的高標格來做興建 |
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醫護人力 |
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畢業的學生經過合理的考試能夠儘速進入到職場那上個月十五 上個月十五陳大已經 原本他已經關閉四十多床的的病床 那預計五月 因為醫師離職潮他五月又關了三十床 院長你有沒有掌握到呢現在應該畢業生快要出來 這一段時間 |
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畢業生出來之後是不是可以稍稍的紓解這樣的壓力因為院長您提到畢業生嘛那您知道在我國有多少有護理證照的人 |
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您從上面大概有19萬人有19萬人沒錯可是我有證照的有30多人那實際的落差是10萬人那部長您也提到就是畢業生新鮮人那心理證照的護理師他實際就業率就只有六成有就是說四成的護理師他們不願意進到醫院不願意進到醫院的職場來工作您認為是為什麼這個我想我們 |
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不管是在工作的環境跟待遇還有護理人員真的面臨很大的第一線的照顧的壓力這個我想我們長期在醫療上完全的體認也感謝委員的關心部長讓您知道新鮮人的離職高峰潮是在什麼時候嗎也通過了12項的一個策略而且具體在落實跟委員報告一下今年其實是有成效的我們今年的事業比去年的事業其實還是增加了3000多位護理師 |
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當然朝著我們想要多一點的護理師還要繼續努力您提到增加了3000多位 那有多少位護理師離職呢我們的離職率大概有11到12 |
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但是我們到七月的時候畢業的畢業生還是會就職所以整體而言是 部長 部長院長光從今年一月到三月離職的人數就高達九百多位喔那其實我們一直面臨到畢業以後就會補回來 |
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本席剛剛也提到只有六成的就業率那離職的高峰潮也在他們進到醫院後的一個月到三個月之後他們又離開了醫院所以請部長 院長要正視這個問題所以我們希望考用合一讓他畢業之後能夠多一點的比例進到職場裡面來那護理師每七年這是一個離職的高峰我們要從他的婚姻家庭來協助他讓他能夠留在職場上 |
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我們現在有多元化的方式來留任一定會有成效是 那本席再請教 請教部長一個問題喔那目前小夜班的獎勵制度是四百元大夜班是六百元 這個是好 謝謝邱鶴華委員的質詢謝謝卓院長 衛福部長的對詢 謝謝 |
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635.782 |
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639.229 |
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報告院會社會福利及衛生 報告院會登記 |