| IVOD_ID |
161014 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/161014 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-35-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
11 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
35 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
外交及國防委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-07T11:16:36+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-07T11:23:28+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:06:52 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/0a74d2e02c378e06354caa030eec6ef91c005f00a3db85f73464f2517af749f02615cb29b12c03265ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
葉元之 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:16:36 - 11:23:28 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期外交及國防委員會第11次全體委員會議（事由：邀請僑務委員會委員長、經濟部次長、國家發展委員會副主任委員報告「美國對等關稅政策對僑台商全球布局之挑戰，及我政府協助僑台商之具體策略與措施」，並備質詢。） |
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主席好 馬上請找經濟部常務次長 |
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市長好 最近大家都在關心說現在匯率台幣升值到很快那之前政府曾經有編列一個4100億的特別預算然後框列了931億是針對川普的關稅政策對於產業影響的一些因應作為我想問一下930億當初在評估的時候是純粹針對關稅 |
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還是有沒有把可能廠商的賄損的損失把它評估進來所編列的預算 |
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我們這裡面剛剛委員所說的我們包括對於中小微企業包括他調度的這個需求裡面其實我們已經有涵蓋在裡面了我說賄損的部分因為這個所謂他所謂的調度的需求資金調度的需求原因非常多種但我們不會去列舉說他完全是因為賄損因為你如果說純粹針對關稅 |
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是一回事然後另外匯損又是另外一回事因為有一些廠商他出口過去他要報價報價完之後忽然發現台幣升值他賣出去之後換回台幣他就虧了所以評估的方式不一樣要很精準而不是說隨便匡列一個就看你需要多少所以你有把所以市長是有把匯損這塊列進來有嗎我們基本上特別的條例是針對對等關稅影響之下 |
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各項的產業需求這邊包括廠商的資金的調度所以有針對我剛剛講的部分嗎還有包括財政的支持的部分所以是有那我想問一下 |
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事先經濟部在評估這件事情的時候有想到可能我們台幣會升值到這麼快嗎事先我們有跟廠商進行包括部內非常多的座談但廠商會知道說其實為了那個經濟分析的那個scenario有考慮這件事情經濟部有沒有得到消息就是說美國可能會希望我們升息會嗎 |
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因為我昨天看那個韓國的央行的負責人都已經出來講他說美國可能會希望亞洲貨幣升值那你們進一步有沒有得到這個消息然後去做一些產業的評估有嗎禮拜一的時候針對於費率包括央行的總裁包括總統都已經發表了談話那這個部分沒有沒有我不在講談話我說事先有得到這個消息所以做出因應之道然後去做評估不是 這個是一個 |
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像昨天他的這個生殖的幅度就稍微的收斂那所以基本上他這個現象我們怎麼我們既然不是說所謂的費率的操縱國家我怎麼會事先會去知道這個消息啊也不會啊那個韓國的他們就說美國希望有這個壓力啊對啊所以我就問說你們有沒有嘛人家就可以知道我們就不知道 |
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當然是可以知道不然別人為什麼會知道我們國家央行在進行它所謂的匯率因為央行匯率的它為什麼要做調節它做調節的目的是不希望我們產業忽然間受到很大的衝擊所以這個跟經濟部業務也會相關 |
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所以怎麼會講的跟經濟部都好像跟你們都沒關係一樣咧那這樣子政府怎麼會給外界信心表示說我們可以來面對國際不管是經濟或是貨幣的變化所造成的衝擊呢好 沒關係 次長我再跟你請教別的問題因為 |
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昨天媒體很關注就是部長 郭志威部長他在請AIT吃飯或是在宴客的時候在自家公司嘛那後來經濟部是有澄清說沒有圖利問題因為所有的錢都是郭部長自掏腰包自掏腰包應該就是用他個人的錢拿出來付嘛那想問次長在跟AIT吃飯那一場你本人有在現場嗎沒有你沒有去齁 |
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那我想問,經濟部是不是請客吃飯,通常都是部長出錢?都自己出錢?我們部長他從企業家投入到公職,他確實犧牲了很多,包括他很多的對於國發展的請客的部分我現在只是想要了解說,那是不是自從部長,你也是剛到經濟部嘛? |
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到今後多久我一直在經濟部的三級機關三十幾年一直在經濟部的三級機關我是說現在到長治多久我從三月多所以在跟郭部長接觸的過程當中是不是只要經濟部驗客都是他自己自掏腰包 |
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這個我並不清楚那為什麼這一場就是請AIT吃飯因為他的邀請函發出去基本上部長經常他自己掏腰包來請我們的同仁甚至是買禮物靠場同仁是一回事靠場同仁是一回事那靠場同仁也有可能用課資費啦我現在問的是為什麼用經濟部的邀請函發出去邀請AIT來吃飯明明就是經濟部的活動 |
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但部長要自掏腰包 是為什麼這個是經濟部的慣例嗎 還是怎麼樣並沒有那為什麼只有這幾場是他自掏腰包並不是說因為他那幾場 郭部長進入到經濟部以來他一直是拿他自己包括在外面所包括他自己的這個資產的部分 |
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這讓人家很怪嘛而且你會讓其他的部長覺得說哇 原來經濟部長這麼大方這個明明就應該要公帑的費用哇 是經濟部發的邀請函 宴請AIT原來是要部長 |
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384.821 |
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自掏腰包而且二十幾萬欸不是他是一個企業家所以企業要自己出錢這很奇怪他非常的慷慨而且非常的真誠他做任何的事情絕對不會虛偽造假我沒有說他虛偽造假你為什麼要好像忽然間提到這個我只是在講這個機制問題因為大家覺得怪啊明明就是政府的宴會那為什麼部長自己出錢 |
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所以我想問說這是經濟部的慣例還是有什麼特殊狀況所以昨天連卓院長都說要查了嘛不知道說現在查的狀況怎樣可能你這個也給卓院長很大的壓力超越我的理解範圍了超過你的理解範圍對好 謝謝謝謝葉研師 小蕭老師上來 |