| IVOD_ID |
160931 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160931 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-02T11:46:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-02T12:01:35+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a4532f731e18a3f66104c61dba9752d4d65e820d1de88fa50bf0456a4f25e5f69be7746c6163105b5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:46:04 - 12:01:35 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、5月2日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月6日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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麻煩再請卓院長 交通部長備詢一個早上 |
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徐委員好謝謝院長好首先感謝行政院對高雄的支持我們最近這是去年底國道10號美濃六龜段的動工院長也親自歷列還有高屏二塊 |
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這個高雄到屏東的另外一條快速道路也非常的重要還有國道7號現在也在做用地的徵收那明年就可以施工所以這個先感謝院長跟交通部對高雄的支持 |
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未來大南方新矽谷是一個國家發展的重鎮我們希望它成為大南方新矽谷的重要的基地也是南向的新的國家的門戶謝謝院長所以將來其實南北雙核心非常的重要所以高雄以前早年都是重北輕南那現在該是重南輕北的時候均衡台灣對就是重南輕北才會均衡台灣所以請 |
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院長繼續支持高雄那當然就是說我們在看重大建設眼光還是要放遠一點啦所以有幾個希望院長跟部長再幫忙支持的我在這邊也提出來就是台鐵南梓段它新增南梓園區站跟改善青浦站 |
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那這個部分我知道交通部當然也在評估就是說到底台鐵多了一個台積電站南梓園區站是不是太近了我知道交通部有這個疑慮或者是台鐵有這個疑慮但是呢事實上我們來看就是整個如果這個地方沒有做的話我們先看下一張圖讓院長參考一下就是 |
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這個台鐵藍紫園區站北端台鐵藍紫站跟南端台鐵新左營站 |
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現在如果坐火車到那邊要去台積電將來都會在這邊轉捷運在上下兩個站轉捷運那這個將來勢必會造成擁擠所以我們如果能夠加上台鐵南子園區站也就是所謂的台積電站那台南的可以坐火車直接下來不用在台鐵南子站轉捷運 |
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鳳山的屏東的也可以從坐火車上來不用在新左營站轉捷運所以從這個整體的考量來看我認為這個還是有相當的必要所以這個也要請部長跟院長支持 |
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那另外就是青浦站青浦站我們將來就是紅線跟紫線的交接紅線跟紫線的交接這個青浦站它也必須要把它山鐵共構將來才會更順暢所以這兩個高雄市政府會提出計畫 |
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就年底前會提出計畫那現在在規劃當中那我一直在徵詢交通部跟台鐵的意見那目前意見還不是百分之百match所以我在這邊先提出來讓院長也知道一下那也希望說部長跟台鐵這兩個站對高雄來講非常的重要可以把它規劃進去那再來就是我們的子縣子縣其實 |
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全世界到高雄的觀光客幾乎都會想到佛光山去走一走那只限目前的規劃並沒有到佛光山在考慮當中那我知道目前意願並不是很高但是呢佛光山這個地方我認為說不是為了它這一個 |
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點本身啦而是整個全世界的觀光客到高雄這個站幾乎都是必去之路必去之站所以這個部分是不是可以請院長跟部長也支持 |
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這個是地方政府的規劃我們會尊重地方政府的規劃也請委員跟地方政府能夠多多溝通如果有地方的需求交通部會進行下一個階段如何進行配合跟協助對 就是我們地方政府現在已經著手在規劃那就是說希望說部長跟院長這個是整個往長遠看啦 而不是只是看到現在未來整個大高雄的整體的交通的路線 |
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有這個必要性你看台北的捷運跟國用的捷運差這麼多你來看台北發展的比較早對啊所以院長其實都住在台北也很清楚現在台北很多人坐捷運很方便但是高雄為什麼捷運量還不如台北路網必須形成因為它整個路網沒有形成所以路網的形成非常的重要我想我們必須看遠一點所以這個部分希望說院長跟部長可以大力的支持 |
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那另外就是我們的鐵路高鐵高鐵其實目前已經決定到高雄車站了那高雄車站到屏東站這個也已經決定了但是我們鳳山車站高鐵站目前不知道部長的規劃怎麼樣院長知不知道曾經就幾個路點啦那個車站設置的點在做一些規劃當中以及將來它的實用性如何請部長再詳細說明 |
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是 報告委員其實未來可能的設點的地方因為委員一直很關心鳳山地區未來的發展那目前我們有幾個方案正在討論我們希望說還是預留未來鳳山會設站的這個可能性所以在整個高鐵延伸的案子裡面我們會先把這個案子放進來思考我想就整個路線來思考當然高鐵還是要考慮到成本營運那鳳山這一站其實就是早期 |
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早期的那時候的部長應該是毛自國吧 |
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就是那個眼光不夠他現在高雄車站他有做高鐵跟台鐵的月台可以共用那鳳山車站他只做台鐵高鐵不能用所以他另外再蓋一個車站對我們來講真的是七腳撐要撐開但是你又不能說不做所以這個部分我們也很痛啦那就是說希望說交通部盡快的盡量的規劃那如果我鳳山 |
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中間或者是跟大寮的交界他不用馬上上來這個是一個思考那另外一個思考就是說我們現在鳳山的鐵路地下化目前市政府也已經做可行性評估送上來了那鳳山現在的台鐵鐵路地下化呢 |
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我們現在打算就是再延伸過去那個大字路橋,那為什麼現在可以做呢?事實上當時本來到我們大字路橋前,過金湖路橋就把它封死了。那當時我有要求,在馬英九政府時代吧,那時候我有要求說,你至少給我做一個預留的轉接的空間,我將來有機會上去的時候,你現在不要把我堵死。 |
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所以今天我們市政府做這個規劃我們交通部做這個協助有機會就是當時大概在十年前我們就把那個預留的轉接頭做好了所以我現在要拜託就是交通部跟行政院就是說今天如果我鳳山這一站上來是最好如果不能上來我至少轉接頭要把我留著 |
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預留一個將來我高鐵跟台鐵都可以上來的空間所以我現在就是說第一個首要的要求當然就是希望說我直接上來是最好那萬一不行的話我希望說至少那個預留的空間將來可行性可以更改的空間我把它保留住我將來整個人口的分佈更多我整個交通更有這個需求的時候我就可以再把它完成就像今天的鐵路地下化台鐵地下化我要穿過到制度小現在可以做了 |
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這十年前就預留的所以這個部分也希望說院長知道一下部長就往這方面去思考把我們未來的可行性保留住啦不要把它封死掉好那這個部分就拜託部長跟院長幫忙那另外一個就是我們的空中奉承 |
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這個我就真的要生氣一下要罵一下那個跟院長報告部長應該知道這件事已經跟我說招標三次已經跟我說沒有問題結果還是有問題這個顯然有兩個問題一個問題就是說也讓部長院長或者是說工程會也注意一下就是說在BOT的案子 |
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我現在檢討我鳳山車站這個案子,在BOT的時候只考慮到B,沒有考慮到OT。所以B的之後,蓋好了之後,要OT它相關的配套跟使用的方式,沒有辦法那麼順暢。所以你無所謂,又無法處理。 |
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這是第一個,以後我們所有的公共建設在做BOT的思考的時候,應該要一併的思考,這個也提醒部長、院長跟工程會,這個部分要注意。第二個就是說,目前台鐵到底有沒有人在keep這個案子,把它針對問題、解決問題、完成問題。 |
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我們希望今年會有進展因為已經進入第三次的招標一直留標我相信地方大家也會覺得很不耐煩也會覺得很失望所以這個部分我會請台鐵積極來處理看可不可以今年一定要標出去 |
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所以我不能說希望要保持,我是一定要飆出去一定努力啊所以就是說基本上也請院長跟部長交代台鐵公司你要一個人專門keep這件事情嘛要不然大家都說要努力,大家都說要努力最後三個和尚沒水喝,最後就還是飆不出去所以這個部分我希望說院長跟部長也積極的面對我們這個問題跟我們注意一下 |
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好那再來就是我們的機場問題事實上我一直推了很多的航線包括華航、虎航、思航、華信、聯合、德威、越捷等我們現在15條航線事實上在高雄已經如火如荼的展開還有一些即將展開的事實上這個也謝謝我們交通部跟華航也一直跟所有的航空公司、民航局都很幫忙 |
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但是我們其實還要再想更遠就是說我今天高雄飛美國的現在上一次飛是1996年院長已經快30年了七月要飛七月 聯合航空七月會有飛美國的那聯合航空其實我去拜訪聯合航空他跟我說四十年以來我是為一個禮物去拜託的 |
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那現在聯合航空他要飛東京然後再飛美國然後再來就是說他也有答應我說他會去算人次啦也就是說我今天從高雄到東京到美國如果到時候直接過去的人數夠多的話也許就有機會直飛那這個部分也希望說交通部跟美航局多關注啦 |
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那當然就是說我們高雄的機場有很多的最大的問題是宵禁問題我們一直很難克服那我知道這個不好克服但是呢是不是就是說其實運營所他們有在規劃那目前就是我們南星計畫這個案子到底可不可行 |
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我們已經期盼了三四十年那可行我們就趕快做不可行就不可行但是如果是有機會的話我們要找到第二個就像台北松山機場之魚桃園他就是有 |
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城市機場跟沒有宵禁的機場日本的成田跟羽田韓國的金浦跟仁川都是同樣這個概念那我相信高雄有個小港機場還需要一個24小時的機場這個部分不知道部長跟院長有沒有想法我們先大南方先細股 |
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現在我們全力來將高雄小港機場第一期第二期工程把它完成這會將到2040年第二期完成第一期會比較快同時也遠跳過剛剛有人所說的那個地方需要填海去做一個新機場的可能性也正在做多方面的考量 |
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所以這個可行性評估大概什麼時候可以給我們一個確切的答案這個機場的可行性評估它時間會比較長一點尤其如果是我們要填海造陸它的海流它的風向它必須要觀察一段蠻長的時間確定海流跟風向之後才有辦法做所以如果是要就填海造陸來思考的話可能它研究的時間會比較長那如果是就路面上的話其實過去民航局已經討論過應該研析過 |
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接近10次的這個24小時的機場的延期那目前其實有一些方案不過都有一些問題所以一直無法落實所以我們現在第一階段要趕快做的是讓現在的小港機場讓它能夠優化讓它運量能夠提升能夠應付到2040年之前的需求那後續我們還是繼續規劃兩句話 第一個就是時間一定是蠻長但是第二個就是 |
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一方面填海造陸的技術目前來看並不是困難但是填海造陸的機場以後連線會持續地沉下陷這個安全上的問題在很多機場都看到了我們有沒有能力去克服我想我的思考就是說不見得執著在一個點請部長院長就是說思考一下就是說我今天的需求就是20小時的機場 |
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那也許是男性可行就做,不可行也要告訴我們為什麼不可行趕快決定評估出來那其他的我包括甚至我其實我不用胸襟那麼狹隘說非在高雄不可啊我在高雄、台南、屏東我們整個南方的結合 |
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如果有個24小時的機場事實上我說的就是南北雙核心那北部 南部 各部北部發展東北亞之外事實上南部我今天將來跟東南亞的基礎一定是非常的密切所以這個其實有非常的必要性是不是院長跟部長可以這些選項我們也都考慮過那現在就是還在評估哪一個要做進一步下一個階段的選項我們還在做這個規劃過程 |
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總而言之就是剛才拜託院長的希望院長幫忙關注因為這些我在交通部大概都講過今天特地要讓院長知道一下就是說我們高雄的需求盡量給我們完成好不好好 我們先跟委員一起努力好 謝謝 |