| IVOD_ID |
160926 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160926 |
| 日期 |
2025-05-02 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-05-02T10:26:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-05-02T10:42:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:32 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/a4532f731e18a3f62a285e11a9ac48e7d65e820d1de88fa50bf0456a4f25e5f60a24d4c92cf601975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
林思銘 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:26:54 - 10:42:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-05-02T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第10次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、5月2日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、5月6日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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好謝謝院長我請卓榮泰院長麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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院長好昨天是五一勞動節對於台電即將就是我們台灣的核電即將歸零台電眾多的員工昨天赴經濟部抗議錯誤的能源政策結果郭志威部長卻是公開講看不下去可以離開院長部長這樣的一個談話 |
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是多麼傲慢這態度真的太傲慢了根本就是不適任來我們看一下影片我們回顧一下2016年蔡英文總統首度當選總統她在上任前講了一段讓全民拒以後望的一段話我相信未來的政府也會有這樣的雅量如果第一次聽不見你可以大聲一點 |
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第二次再聽不見你可以更大聲一點第三次再不回應的時候你可以拍桌子但是我拜託的是不要第一次就拍桌子那個院長過去蔡總統對於人民對政府的一個建議或者對政府喊話 |
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看蔡總統說了這個話但是這次郭部長我看今天的媒體大家都覺得他真的是不適任應該下台所以你覺得說郭部長講出這個話到底是失言還是他的態度傲慢 |
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我先說我的立場勞工當然是國家最珍貴的資產國家的生產力國家的經濟發展勞工都是最主要的原動力所以在昨天我們也特別表達了敬意 |
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不僅是全國的勞工更何況是國營事業的同伴夥伴們更是肩負的政府支撐政府運作最重要的一環所以我認為對所有的勞工朋友包括國營事業的夥伴們我們都基於是一家人的感覺同樣的來關懷所以院長我覺得部長可以多一些關懷所以部長說這個話你覺得他應不應該道歉他應該 |
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趕快去跟所有的國營事業的夥伴們勞工夥伴們表示經濟部更多的關懷而且我希望我們很多的部會都有國營事業的單位都應該利用這個時候透過這個事件再次重申政府的立場跟所有部會跟勞工夥伴們站在一起郭部長是你的格言所以你願不願意對他失言你先做道歉 向國人來道歉 |
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向台電的員工來道歉我會找國務部長來談一談在這樣的談話的基礎底下但我認為 |
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這個談話已經引起社會大家的討論甚至我相信一定相當程度引起勞工朋友心理上面的不快針對這一點我認為站在政府一體的立場上面我應該表達對勞工更多的關懷好 謝謝我對你今天的態度予以肯定但是我覺得郭部長多次的失言其實已經不是人了應該下台也要為這一次的事件盡速的來道歉 |
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院長接下來我請教你你知不知道我們全國有哪幾條的東西向快速道路唯一沒有銜接我們的國道系統的高速公路你知不知道 |
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東西向的快速道路全台大概有七條嘛就是沒有銜接台六八台六八新竹我想部長我們星期一也去考察啦這個議題呢我想是我們大新竹地區民眾非常關心的那我想我們這個全國啊有兩條沒有接一條就是我們台六八另外一條就是台76線唯二沒有銜接我們的國道系統 |
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因為這樣子,所以造成我們新竹地區的民眾上下班通勤的時候,或者是說新竹現在有很多我們的觀光客到新竹,到我們台山縣,或者新竹的五峰尖石,或者到我們的海邊,我們的新峰,那邊都很漂亮的海景。 |
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去新竹市的南寮去那邊來做旅遊但是很可惜的我們要藉由68號快速道路到這些景點都要先下平面交流道所以造成說我們上下我們的高速公路不管是國道1或者國道3 |
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都會造成湧射大量的車潮就造成湧射所以交流道常常我們在假日或者上下班的時段都是非常的湧射那我想這個問題影響到我們整個國道一的竹北交流道新竹市的公道五交流道還有光復交流道國道三的竹東瓊林交流道都是常常造成嚴重的回堵及湧射 |
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不僅塗增我們車程的時間,更導致長期嚴重的涌射回堵的問題。大新竹地區的民眾,不僅是民眾,還包含竹科的廠商,常常跟本席建議,請中央盡速的規劃來設計施工。 |
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院長這是民眾茵茵的期盼所以本席請院長可不可以在這裡承諾這個台六八快速道路這一次我們利用羊頭高架的一個施工在明年就要這個動工了嘛可不可以請院長承諾一定務必要把台六八來銜接我們的國道一號謝謝委員我們去年一整年我就一直跟 |
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陳世凱部長在提新竹地區的高速公路的系統常常的塞車那麼一定要想辦法來解決所以現在有這個高價的規劃但要相當長的一段時間但我覺得不只是這條高速公路要把它規劃好周遭的 |
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連接系統如果沒有一併的處理的話那它的功效還是有限的那部長日前跟委員看過68號道路的現場的會刊了解這事情狀況部長會很清楚我覺得我們朝這個方向整體的把它連接系統給它做好這才是整個解決交通問題 |
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應該有的態度跟做法 這個問題已經延宕很久了我從這個五年前 2020我上任立委我就一直要求從蘇院長到歷任交通部長一直要求這個案子一定要做規劃設計就台六八一定要銜接我們的國道系統把這個過去的一個疏漏這一次把它補上去 |
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但是我比較遺憾的是說,在這次的考察,在整個高工局的簡報當中,都沒有辦法跟本席很明確地做一個表示,就是說一定會做。 |
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因為我記得蘇院長在大概是2022年的時候到新竹地區考察交通建設蘇院長就告訴我也多次站在我的對面告訴我說他一定會責成我們的交通部不管任何的困難 |
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不然任何技術上的困難或者任何的經費上的問題他都會全力支持所以我今天本席再次的請院長給新竹地區的民眾一個承諾到底台六八這一次可不可以我們利用我們羊頭高架的施工一併把它完成規劃施工 |
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院長你願不願意承諾謝謝委員 既然這個高架的未來是解決整個新竹路段塞車問題的那我剛剛說連接系統部長也非常的清楚 他已經朝這個方向在走克服一些目前看得到的技術上的困難包括跟水利署啦等等在橋墩 落墩的這個技術上的困難這個困難 |
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一定要把它克服這是這條路我們一定會把它做出來一定要做出來嘛不管是工程技術上的困難或者經費上面的資源我們未來行政院 交通部 部長你也在這裡是不是再次的跟我們新竹地區的民眾來做這個一個承諾一定會把這個這一次把這個路網啊把它補上去啦 |
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那麼多年了我們知道大新竹地區高科技產業的一個聚落未來又有我們所謂的大矽谷的一個計畫如果東西向橫向的東西向快速道路沒有銜接我們的高速公路你想那個未來造成我們平面的交流道它的一個交通的湧射是多嚴重的問題這是一個很長遠之計我們不能看短期 |
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其實因為我看到一個就是當時的一個報告講說未來的本益比好像很低 |
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很低啊 我不曉得是如何做出這樣的一個評估報告我們如果為大新竹地區的發展的話這個考慮絕對不是這樣的結果我今天就要告訴院長這個本益比說那麼低我覺得這個可能是在辦公室裡面做出的報告你去現場看啊你如果長期觀察以及聆聽在地民眾的心聲怎麼本益比會低呢這真的是要馬上去做現在不做以後就會後悔 |
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那個經費會無限的膨脹我也要謝謝陳世凱部長我們去年端午節去看到新竹地段高速公路國一的永篩情形我說我不忍心再看到不應該讓它長期間的存在所以他花了很長的時間他已經把他的整個高速道路已經規劃出來了所以整個系統性的要完成我想這個因為在年底評估報告就會做出來 |
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我是要拜託院長為大新竹地區的民眾來請命無論如何不管什麼樣的一個困難技術上的困難水文的問題或者經費上的問題都請行政院要大力支持也請委員一起來支持謝謝 |
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另外一個議題就是有關大新竹輕軌的問題像新竹輕軌計畫從1989年首次提出來以後經歷多次的規劃與調整目前已經納入中央桃竹苗大細股計畫的軌道建設的項目 |
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現在過了36年了截至今年最近在2025年的4月新竹輕軌計畫仍處於規劃與整合階段尚未進入實質的施工目前新竹市政府已經完成紅線的可行性研究 |
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去年的6月7號新竹縣政府也公布已完成紅線的可行性研究那麼自110年的11月啟動的新竹縣大眾捷運系統整體網路評估計畫以及新竹縣藍線可行線的一個評估案 |
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其中整體網路評估計畫案已經送到鐵道局審議另外新竹南線的可行性研究案也進入期末報告的期程中等可行性研究規劃後將再送到中央審議預計在2025年的第一季完成並提交通部來審查 |
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所以我在這邊要請問院長部長目前綜合規劃報告上代我們中央核定這個大新竹地區的鄉親已經等了36年了行政院以及交通部是否可以協助新竹縣市大新竹地區來把這個大新竹輕軌捷運計畫來把它完成 |
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報告委員大新竹的輕軌計畫目前還在可行性研究的階段目前招標的前置作業正在做他有4600萬的預算希望中央來補助我們也很感謝新竹市政府承接了這個案子因為過去是新竹市跟新竹縣各做各的他們現在把它整合起來 |
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那現在4600萬的預算我們正在審議當中我們一定會幫忙就是在可行性評估的這個預算我們一定會幫忙那如果可行性研究做出來之後整個路廊才會比較大致上清楚才會進入綜合規劃的階段所以這個部分我們還是持續在推動 |
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那我們也會督促地方政府也就是新竹市政府跟新竹縣政府大家趕快合作我們既然已經實質這一次補助了四千六百萬作為一個規劃費那我想我們在星期一的時候我們也很高興聽到我們這個高鐵西側未來又有三鐵共購要整個 |
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把輕軌還有台鐵還有我們高鐵在新竹地區做一個供購的一個計畫那未來地下也是往朝地下車流來進行未來整個地下室的停車位汽機車的停車位接送區都會在這個山鐵供購的車站的下面來讓民眾更便利不用這個風吹雨率的在這個地面城來接送我們的旅客 |
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所以這個大新竹輕軌捷運計畫就攸關這個山鐵供購這個案子的期程所以我要拜託交通部對於這個我們未來新竹市提出整個計畫案的時候能夠也盡速的給它核定不能再拖了就稱之我剛才講的因為你拖越久那個經費會越高 |
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就好像羊頭高價我2020年的時候跟部長報告只要700多億現在要1300多億所以每拖一段時間整個物料的上漲還有施工的費用都會不斷的上漲所以要盡速的來協助讓我們新竹地區的交通網能夠把它建構起來 |
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這個都是我們大新竹地區民眾的一個期待所以請院長也務必要支持這個案子好不好好的 謝謝那剩下38秒 院長我來再請命一個科技大橋就我們新竹縣政府因台資園區的開發還有我們竹科三級的交通需求提出了跨越頭前溪的科技大橋計畫最近也已經舉辦完可行性的地方研究的一個說明會 |
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那未來我們預計總經費要32.3億預估整個供需要1320天所以請交通部對這個科技大橋這個案子也給我們全力支持好不好 這個是竹科 請新政府就這個生活圈的計畫道路提出申請這個部分我們來想辦法 也要全力支持 好不好謝謝林士明委員的諮詢 謝謝卓院長交通部的備詢 |
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接下来我们请苏巧慧委员质询林俊逸 |