| IVOD_ID |
160819 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160819 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-30 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-30T12:23:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-30T12:33:22+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:51 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b6da7da99b94236913ec6a27e21cc724385a4fd0f0fffa4998ab4b80bc74e67d286f51d77010decd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
許智傑 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:23:31 - 12:33:22 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-30T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第9次全體委員會議（事由：邀請交通部部長陳世凱、交通部民用航空局局長何淑萍、交通部鐵道局局長楊正君、國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司代理董事長伍勝園、台灣高速鐵路股份有限公司董事長鄭光遠、中華航空股份有限公司董事長高星潢及國家運輸安全調查委員會率所屬相關單位列席就「近期我國航空、鐵路運營安全事件之檢討與改善及臺鐵票價調整方案」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 我們請部長好 請交通部陳部長委員好 部長好部長我現在有一個資料就是高齡駕駛高齡駕駛65歲以上的發生車禍的比例蠻高 大概20%20幾% |
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好那這個部分其實讓我想到台灣的駕照平常考完了換照的機制部長有清楚嗎報告委員就高齡的部分我們確實是有換照的機制那針對他的認知功能的部分我們也會做這個檢測那我們希望說高齡的這個照試率可以下降這個部分我們有在做對所以這個其實要特別的做因為高齡的 |
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長者通常他會覺得他沒有問題他覺得說為什麼你要找我麻煩為什麼我不能開車但是他的身體機能退化之後可能他自己不是那麼的清楚所以我們看一下世界各國的比較 |
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日本是70歲以上每5年要換照韓國是65歲一接新加坡是65歲以上美國跟英國是70歲跟丹麥是70歲以上我們台灣現在是75歲以上每3年要換一次所以我是認為這個有檢討的必要 |
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那部長知道其他國家他們平常我們台灣是一張駕照考完以後就等到老的時候才來換照對不對其他的國家中間有沒有換照您知道嗎這個我不曉得是不是縣市長 |
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這個部分跟委員報告一下確實這個其他國家的規定有點不太一樣我跟委員報告一下我們現行是這一個就是說我們原來以前的部分是六年這一個換照一次那職業駕駛執照是這個三年要 |
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這個審議一次那後來在102年的時候那也是這個院裡面交通委員會這邊這個決議說這個要求這個部裡面要來檢討是不是不要6年這個婚外一次但是剛剛我們所提到國外的情況那國外的情況確實也有6年那也有10年那也有 |
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後來譬如說我們現在後來102.0這個檢討那這個就是說考上駕駛執照之後那原則上如果沒有被調扣調銷那大概就是到75歲再回家換對就是終身嘛對對對那終身的這樣的部分其實在法國在歐洲有些國家也是用這個終身來那個所以加照管理的一個這個部分基本上大概各國都會有一些這個差異我是建議說我們統一做個思考啦就是比較各國的好壞嘛 |
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那其實大部分的國家中間都有換照的機制啊那他們換照的機制是根據體檢比如說你十年也好或幾年也好你必須去體檢因為一輩子身體的狀況一定會不一樣我年輕的時候考了照結果我中間身體發生什麼狀況但是我們的 |
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駕照還是都不變那也許他身體發生狀況他就不能再開了那也許是年紀老化他沒有辦法再開了 |
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但是一般人都不清楚以為說我就都可以開當然我們站在人民的角度他自己當然不希望你來擾亂我不需要去換照啦以人民的角度當然他最希望是這樣子但是呢 以安全的角度 以整個道路整個行駛 讓國人安全的角度事實上我是認為是有必要可以去做一下檢討 |
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是 報告委員我覺得這個部分是有必要做檢討那我們目前交通部內部也在做這個檢討這方面的檢討有在做了對但是委員可以提更好的一些建議啦我們也都會參考例如說委員覺得頻率應該怎麼樣抓會比較好或者說年紀應該怎麼抓會比較好或者是我們在換照的過程當中應該有加入哪一些檢測的方案也歡迎委員們給我們所以我就說我們交通部統一做個規劃嘛你比如說10年需要體檢 |
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然後來換照表示你身體狀況沒問題嘛那比如說你75歲以上或者是70歲以上也需要體檢因為我的意思就是說每個人身體的機能改變之後我就舉我爸的例子幾年前我就請他不要開車他就一直要開他說為什麼我不能開那我就說你已經 |
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視力有減退 那你不適合開他就會說 我就有駕照啊 我身體還好 為什麼我不能開 |
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那後來我們就叫他真的去檢查視力真的是有減退所以我們好不容易才勸導他說好啦 我們身體狀況改變 該調整的就是要調整不然不是為了你自己安全而已 你還顧著別人的安全所以其實這是一個很明顯的例子啦我是覺得 那長輩通常他會認為說我沒問題啦 |
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但是事實上可能身體狀況已經改變了他還是認為是他沒問題所以我覺得這個應該是整體來做一個思考好那再來就是說我們的那個JAS我們這個所有的那個 |
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客運車的那個數量現在都在減少所以你看我們偏鄉的老人為什麼他還想要開車我交通不方便嘛所以你看我們的客運車國道還是偏鄉的這些路線都在減少當中那這個交通部有沒有什麼補救的方案 |
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報告委員就客運的部分我們當然一直在協助客運業者我們希望路線要維持住因為很多的客運雖然大家現在很多人是搭雙鐵但是客運等於是我們的末梢成金必須要做好所以除了一般的客運以外我們也有做幸福巴士委員剛剛所提到的偏鄉的部分我們就是用幸福巴士來補齊那我本身也有到基層下去看去偏鄉看幸福巴士的成效算是不錯那目前也變成更彈性用預約制的 |
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讓偏鄉的公共運輸能夠做得起來這個其實就是我以前曾經要求過現在我們來檢視一下就是大概做了多少比如說你拿我們高雄來講高雄現在52條小黃公車路線事實上高雄應該是最早做的啦那也做得最好的 |
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那有很多的長輩 事實上我們不管是固定的路線還是預約的路線我們都會盡量去長輩設想這也先公車的事情啦你講起來去省省的 一台車這麼大台 開在一個人兩個人你用公車小房 又省錢 又方便甚至公車小房的設計也是很好 你就坐到這裡車這麼高你到底在哪裡 我在這裡等你 |
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這個感覺就好很多所以高雄市事實上我們辦到現在一直都覺得成效蠻不錯那我想知道就其他的縣市現在是不是都有比照辦理了推動的效果如何 |
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跟委員報告一下那個數字我不是很精準但是在186個鄉鎮大概有480幾條這個幸福巴士包括這個小黃公車的一個路線180個鄉鎮186然後480幾條這個路線480幾條平均4條那這個陳副剛剛委員所提到的部分確實這個目前推的這個規模比較大就是高雄市跟這個屏東 |
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OK 我是希望說你們再推一下啦剛你的數據平均一個鄉鎮4條我們高雄52條差不多我們高雄38個鄉鎮所以就是說這個希望說交通部繼續推那你們這個公運計畫114年編列的剛剛那一張114年編列的經費現在被凍結的狀況 |
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會影響到你們推動這個計畫嗎跟委員報告一下確實對於地方的補出是有影響但是裡面有關於小黃公車的部分就是偏鄉興福巴士的部分我們是列為第一優先OK好那現在我們大概總結一下就是 |
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高齡的駕照跟平常的駕照是不是需要體檢來換照然後來維護我們交通整體的安全那偏鄉的客運的國道的不足的部分我們的幸福小黃 |
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幸福巴士希望說公路局在這一方面可以繼續加強來照顧偏鄉的老人至少他可以不用開車他有車座他自然就會比較少開車所以這個整體的交通安全希望我們交通部再做一個整體的思考好 謝謝 |