| IVOD_ID |
160691 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160691 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-25 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-25T14:31:04+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-25T14:51:02+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:19:58 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/b161887eae65c392d9a34e4207b197a5fbec180d4fb51a06cf9e1f550594d553f952555c339954dd5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:31:04 - 14:51:02 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-25T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第9次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月25日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月29日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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謝謝這個主持人韓院長以及我們的卓院長以及各位先進有請卓院長但是要先拜託主席可不可以時間給我暫停我有權力問題但是要請院長能夠上來麻煩請卓院長備詢 |
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向兩位院長報告我之所以提權宜問題啊這是第二次我來總諮詢經濟部長不來第二次我們的韓院長宅心仁厚太好了 |
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請問主院長你知道我們郭志輝這個部長他的行程嗎跟委員致歉 不過郭部長今早應與總統有重要的行程我秀給你看 來 |
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早上他九點出席與傳統產業作者座談會這個講得過去因為要關心傳統產業受關稅的影響可是下午咧 |
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現在我跟他一點關係都沒有這個賴總統的行程是114年國家政務研究班第16期的什麼高階領導研究班開訓典禮跟他一點關係都沒有所以現在顧部長能在哪裡躲在家裡睡覺啊 |
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跟他一個關係都沒有啊總院長你被你的屬下欺騙啊他早上請假我覺得我可以接受可是下午他還請假我不能接受他不到另外今天經濟組很重要的 |
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國家發展委員會 國科會國科會的主委他生病這個情有可原但是老實講這兩位重要的部長這個重要的部會首長居然在國會殿堂兩次 這已經第二次了我不知道為什麼郭部長每次要執行就不在為什麼每次執行就不在我就拜託這個韓院長以後下一次對於我們郭部長他的請假設施可以更嚴格一點 |
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委員 容許我跟您報告事事事 請跟左院長一併報告 跟那個官員各位新聞界廣大的台灣人民報告一下伊利法院執行法第26條規定行政院院長及各部會首長應該親自出席伊利法院的院會並被質詢如果因故不能出席則應該檢訟行政院院長批准之請假書今天兩位首長沒有到是左院長行政院有批准這第一第二 |
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再次重申要基於對憲法的尊重以及重視本院委員的質詢要特別拜託左院長針對各部會首長除非出國獲得特別重要且迫切的公務要親自處理的情況之下才能予以同意另外後續的質詢各首長列席的情況也特別要拜託左院長能夠尊切 |
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我們能夠確實來進行處理 好嗎 這樣我想謝謝 謝謝韓院長我希望卓院長能夠確實約束啦他早上請假 我剛剛說過因為要聽業主的聲音 我可以接受但是下午 他跑去胡攏區啦 不知道去哪裡啦 |
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那還是有其他東西 謝謝但是我每次我都要約束他 我覺得你不可以放縱他郭志輝部長像泥鳅一樣啊 會閃啊早上請假效果就溜掉了 不好啦我選你啦我選你啦每次在會期要開始之前在行政院院會都再三的要求委員長要以親自出席院會的議程為優先他看你沒啊 我替你出氣啊你要知道 我替你講話啊 |
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我相信你一定同意賴慶德總統說的AI就是國力我們國家全力發展AI台灣什麼人才資訊人才誰誰叫結果我一看人家排名叫AI人才集中度 |
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你現在去看大學的科系啊很多那個好的學校他第一支院已經不是台大醫學院了第一支院就台大志工要去念AI了 |
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即便醫生也想要弄一點AI這是未來的趨勢 未來的主流結果我們的人才集中度第一名你看全世界有十個國家以色列 新加坡跟亞洲有關係的第十名 韓國沒有台灣啦 沒有中華民國啊看了難過啊 |
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院長啊 我看了心酸啊你可不可以在這裡公開跟大家承諾啊 或者國科會的副主委你是國科會副主委是不是市長 何市長 經濟部不是 國科會副主委要國科會副主委還是你們要講都可以 |
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你們有沒有企圖心 什麼時候可以紀錄全市民報告委 去年我們在這裡就像國人說過我們國家的高科技製造力是領先的但是軟體設計軟體設計的人才是沒有的所以一年當中我們很難把他趕上這麼多的人才訓練經濟部已經有一個計畫要在四年內訓練20萬的AI人才一部分從國外引進 |
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我不知道你能不能做十年沒有時間我沒有時間聽你講我再請教院長因為這是你院長你帶頭你要不要有一點魄力拿出來一年內我要紀錄前十年多少一個月一年內一年內一年人才的培育不是這樣的簡單兩年兩年我們會達到一個數字像三年 |
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我都說過 四年內我們會培育20萬的AI人才四年內 那我們現在已經過了一年了 等於是三年了從現在開始 我們從現在開始從現在開始依照我們去年的計畫 四年就是 剩下三年了三年內我們要培育20萬的AI人才好啦 好啦 這題是送你分數 讓你發揮啦結果你發揮的不好啦我以為你要來現靠我讀下去就說賴委你放心 |
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我琢磨人在這裡一年內就給他拚到70名教育是百年的大事不是一兩年可以訓練這麼多的人才訓練的人要能夠實用才是重點我在今天很高興看到教授有正道的學生來我在正道當教授包括立法院基調二十年了我知道沒那麼快但是現在幾乎年輕人義和風都有在擠AI |
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所以一年內 老實講 你要有魄力給錢 給資源我告訴你 一年內就可以達到這個10名內了 |
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我會努力啊不是會努力 你要承諾啊今天來聽你承諾啊不是會聽你會努力啊對不對 會努力的話被他騙啊不是這樣啊 對不對好啦 我們來看啊第二個 大家很關心的我們跟美國的關稅談判啊什麼時候可以開始談 |
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我們第一階段 第一次的視訊會議已經不是啦 對不起 那個叫準備庭啦你不要呼嚨 那個叫準備庭 那就誤裝你叫什麼名字 我叫卓榮泰這個你出生年齡日 我不笑臉喔第一個是準備庭啦不是談判啦 談判還沒有開始談判的五個國家 沒有台灣啦 沒有中華民國啊 |
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報告委員第一次的接觸已經過大家都知道第二次的接觸我們爭取最快的時間對於雙方的默契在事情到達之前我們不予追問因為90天時間也快到了啊4月2號90天就三個月而已喔就七月份初七月初就到期現在已經四月底馬上就五月了你該不該在這裡做一個我不要你具體時間這是你談判的機密 |
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但是你可以不可以講說你預估五月底以前一定可以抬到台灣敢這樣講嗎 敢不敢這樣講我說我已備妥方案 我們在很快的時間內是這樣子 問你答案問你答案你都給我抓泥鰍 跑掉了 不可以這樣子 |
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五月一定可以五月一定可以談 五月一定談喔這是我已經記起來了 全國都聽到了五月底以前 台灣一定可以排到跟美國談好 那我們就看那你具體目標 現在10%啦那你一覺醒來 你不知道要怎麼30% 80%對不對那是在中間你都可以接受嗎 |
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如果是這個數字你我都不能滿意我不能滿意啊我們現在你知道現在美國關稅台灣的商品去美國關稅課幾%你知道嗎平均6.53%啦6.5那個實際的啦加起來是3%啦 |
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我們是普通的數字如果平均的加起來要更低喔 |
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明目上實質就是加權平均之後是3%啦那我們現在是剋10%啦所以現在來講就7%所以就造成很大的影響你也知道我們現在銷到美國是銷1100多億美金去年度的時候 |
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7%代表什麼意思7%代表77億美金就幾千億的台幣所以才會有你昨天癢癢灑灑的報告出來我們都很清楚因為確實已經有傳統業受到傷害了原來3%現在10%差7%傳統產業的毛利 毛山道士這個7%都賣掉開始有人擔心這個無薪假來 你看喔 |
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勞動部長 勞動部長說全台超過10萬個勞工受影響然後呢 關稅 中經院的推估關稅如果10% 現在是10%我們GDP下降到2.85%如果15%到20% 1.66%如果悲觀的話那就32% 只剩下0.16% 甚至於馬納死 |
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所以你談的你心裡行政院長總是應該讓全國人民知道你的企圖心我們希望你剛剛講了21%你不能接受我也不能接受我覺得底線你可不可以講我底線就撐在那裡說最多都希望你10%啦如果這樣我就給你放鞭炮我們有交給我們的談判團隊將來在談判的 |
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進行過程當中 一定會堅持一個對我國最有利的方向當然最好更低更好啦齁10% PLUS-3% 我說這個答案是不是講到你心裡的話有沒有 |
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或是你的企圖心我今天都做足給你了我都不知道對你這麼好在談判還沒有開始之前講太多這樣的談判的內容容許我們再做多一點點的思考讓我們在談判過程當中有更大的彈性今天是國會議員問你的話你當然要回答啊表示你的態度拿出來對不對我要讓我的所有的全台灣的產業 |
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因為我的領導然後大家的傷害降到最低這是一個企圖性的表現這跟性命沒有關係耶老實講 談判又不是你去談我們的目標就是爭取國家最大的利益讓產業在國際間有競爭力所以我希望我們爭取到的不高於跟我們競爭的國家這個是最低最低你說這東西沒說啦 沒關係 繼續來 |
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你昨天談了洋洋灑灑4100億啊我們都知道 這一次老實講啊 院長你人實在是不錯啦但是怎麼會 怎麼做這些奇奇怪怪我們一路叫SNEAKY 你知道嗎 SNEAKY用流氓的做法來做這件事情你講 一開始你講八百八齁 再給人家報告啦 給你兩千啦我們 主席啊 |
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部隊帶領的時間都很清楚,我們在下部隊最喜歡講一句話,班長你不要把這個這個什麼,這個這個這個你不要把這個好的消息啊把這個幸運當福氣啊客氣當福氣啊,最喜歡講這一句話不要把客氣當福氣啊 |
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我們說給你兩千億 結果你現在空四千億真正跟傳統產業有關的只有九百三 原來你八百八加五十億 九百三 都給你 都給你只要跟產業有關的 都給你我個人的意見 都給你一個人都不為難可是你另外跑來兩條很重要的東西一個 |
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又說什麼國土安全任性一千五百億另外一個台電一千億請問台電一千億都不看掉你還要 |
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你是怎麼樣我看了是很寬鬆的喔我說假如你承諾用核電我就主張一千億給你你敢這樣主張嗎一柱台電的一千億我們在產業的座談當中產業界屢屢都提到希望電價不要再調整那當然啦就用用國家的錢向老百姓的錢貼補他們用電報戶當然他們要高興啊所以這兩個而且談到國安的 |
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國土安全韌性一千五百億不管你買什麼感覺像比較像國防預算這個這兩塊要談的切割出來你不要放在這裡一輪十菜蜜混水摸魚就摸進來了而且講個難聽一點啦趁火打劫啊 |
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我們 你這個標885 我沒有說要給你2000結果你登彼此上點你要了4100 結果2500億跟這裡面一定關係都沒有院長 不好啦即使沒有關稅調整的這個事件 |
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957.53 |
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原來我們對今年的稅計剩餘我們也來準備用將近三千億來做這個兩千億啊這兩條這兩條你要另外成立一個特別預算另外一題不應該混在這裡這裡的話你是談到我們是受了關稅的影響所以這兩千五百億剛剛好來給我們一人一萬塊一人一萬塊普發現金請你在看上一頁 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].start |
971.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].end |
1000.902 |
| transcript.whisperx[42].text |
你可以看到物價上漲勞工整個來講我相信經濟你也懂經濟的發展除了外銷佔七成我們還有內需啊當時候上一任的總統蔡英文發六千塊主計長朱哲銘說多了就六千塊GDP增加百分之零點三所以如果一萬塊就增加零點五%的GDP |
| transcript.whisperx[43].start |
1002.729 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].end |
1010.055 |
| transcript.whisperx[43].text |
這個都是數字在這裡人家0.5的GDP為什麼你不要然後你去搞這些就是你要錢要這麼多 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].start |
1012.295 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].end |
1018.558 |
| transcript.whisperx[44].text |
我已經跟你講了你另外提計畫我們給你支持但是不應該在這個Umbrella的地下這個Umbrella是因應 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].start |
1040.031 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].end |
1063.203 |
| transcript.whisperx[45].text |
美國的關稅衝擊對產業對產業的影響對因為產業的影響勞工受到影響無薪假可能他減薪可能他沒有薪水他沒有工作很可憐啦物價要漲那個樣子給人家一人一萬塊我們對弱勢的照顧這部分也希望委員能夠支持那個也可以照顧沒問題但是你為什麼可以讓你增加GDP0.5% |
| transcript.whisperx[46].start |
1070.151 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].end |
1097.438 |
| transcript.whisperx[46].text |
你為什麼不要呢?你為什麼不要呢?這是我們最弱勢的道路這次也變成170億170億教育跟人才的培訓也變成200億那很遠啦那很遠是在特別條例通過之後我也不會反對但是我跟你講的是這一條安全任性的一千五plus台電的一千剛好兩千五剛剛好一個人一萬塊這個普發現金你反對嗎?你反對普發現金? |
| transcript.whisperx[47].start |
1098.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].end |
1125.651 |
| transcript.whisperx[47].text |
我覺得普發現金是一個最簡單的方式但是不能達到我們現在期待的效果朱正麟的功課可以賺GDP算起來就是0.5%的一個GDP我們國家現在的生命經濟的威脅等等跟關稅貿易秩序的沖繩我們需要依薩成達以一起的力量去對抗我再跟你確定一點啦你反對普發現金一萬就對了 是不是因為普發現金不是最好的方式對我來講也許是最簡單的 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].start |
1126.631 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].end |
1149.856 |
| transcript.whisperx[48].text |
反對普發現金一萬四你講的是不是我覺得他不是好的方向你反對普發現金最簡單不是都不用反對好 還有一個我們來看喔我們現在美國阿拉斯加很北的地方LNG液態天然氣liquid natural gas440億美金 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].start |
1153.325 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].end |
1156.987 |
| transcript.whisperx[49].text |
日本由於韓國標泰要參與這應該得等於蔣介石連就直接叫我們付錢 三個國家付錢啊 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].start |
1191.339 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].end |
1195.261 |
| transcript.whisperx[50].text |
好,謝謝賴氏寶委員質詢 |