| IVOD_ID |
160641 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160641 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-24 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-22-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
22 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
教育及文化委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-24T11:27:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-24T11:33:43+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:48 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/5e1f7c3e1748c6e5eee0f096379b484bc89945c4c3ca21e17970360821fa2daee3fa70f8cb21ccda5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:27:55 - 11:33:43 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-24T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期教育及文化委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請核能安全委員會主任委員陳明真列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。
(4月23日及24日二天一次會)） |
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時間四分鐘主席在場委員 先進列席的總統江蘇環 官員會長 觀眾夥伴媒體記者女士先生有請陳主委好 陳主委 |
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主委好文藝好我知道主委啊是請看下一頁主委也是文學造詣很高啦我們來研究一下文學這是一個民眾黨的公投提案文他說恢復繼續運轉請問恢復跟繼續有沒有衝突啊恢復就是做一件事情停下來然後要恢復再去做對不對那繼續是什麼就是一直做一直做嘛那請問您的 |
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語文的認知 什麼叫做恢復繼續我這是沒有科學的問題 這文學的問題你認為這個公投是要做什麼這修詞學的問題 我不敢說我是專家啦你的認知一般人看到這個是怎樣 到底何三長幹嘛 |
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我猜就是要它要運轉就對了繼續運轉就對了繼續運轉但是好了我們看一下來另外一個常識的問題請問主委下一題你知道我們目前台灣的發電的配比吧火力發電燃氣的四成七燃煤的三成然後呢其他的有大概三成三趴綠能已經超過12趴核能不到5趴是不是這樣子 |
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跟你的認知一樣啦 好 我們看一下晚一些但是呢 又到用電量我們看一下目前以裝置容量來講北部是沒有核能的 中部是沒有核能的只有南部屏東有951MW然後呢 我們看看用電用電的部分 哪裡用最多 北部用最多嘛發電的部分 哪裡發最多 南部發最多嘛 |
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所以是不是可以合理推論,目前我們的發電裝置是以南部為主,而且供應可能以北部來使用,可以這樣說嗎?南部發電量是比較大北部用量多嘛,所以是不是南電北送,好往下看 |
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所以今天有很多人在關心電力不足所以有人主要用核電那有人說到未來的AI發展還有那個Data Center數據化的部分會推升那您覺得這樣的一個用電台灣的用電區的推估你覺得有它的合理性嗎是要繼續用電會增加嗎 |
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我現在是問常識啦那麼未來的用電需求是北部上升的會比其他地方來的多這個推論又是可能啦好那我們來看一下再來是你們的專業了再來說核電廠因應這樣的情況就是有人說要讓他 |
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運轉要停止那停止要五年前申請換照有沒有這個法律規定有有這個法律規定好我們再看下一頁那麼目前河山廠有沒有已經超過了申請換照的期限有沒有有有嗎好已經不可能了嘛因為呢兩個都在一個在去年的四月七月二十七一個在今年的五月十七而且呢除疫計劃也審核通過預定什麼時候會取得除疫許可 |
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五月 還平 除役許可 好 那往下看那所以一旦除役之後 目前法條規定是不是叫做永久停止運轉是的好 那麼不管有人要他繼續運轉 或者恢復運轉 要不要修法要那目前法有沒有在修 修過了沒 |
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還沒有好所以呢一個公投主文要恢復繼續一個衝突的語句在法條上它不存在能夠馬上運轉的可能性但是現實上台灣未來的用電需求增加北部比南部更多那請問我們最後一題來是不是未來如果說要恢復 |
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核電要恢復使用 第一個要通過修法第二個 用電竟然在北部 您覺得那如果真的要恢復核電是不是核一核二比較符合用電地區的需求啊 |
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主委這個部分恐怕台電比我更適合台電比你更清楚好沒關係其實接下來我想大家就講很清楚了這個主委是我們課級的很受尊敬的領袖啦那我等一下就說侯羅維我們主席比較聽話啦一般來說啦像這種情形喔在香港來說啦 |
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你在用電,我在吃辣,就是稀得又沒什麼品德,叫做臭俗辣啦主委聽懂嗎?聽得懂所以我們就知道為什麼有人會被說臭俗辣就是這種提案呢,就是稀得又沒什麼品德北部在用電,北部的核電廠都不用恢復運轉南部用電少,又要南部來承擔風險我請主委可以把這樣的嘗試的方式呢來跟其他的周邊的人分享以上的諮詢,謝謝 |
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謝謝維園 |