| IVOD_ID |
160536 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160536 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-23 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
10 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-23T11:45:43+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-23T11:54:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:49 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/27ac2f54fdf75cc0fbcfae9b60a41f7a7fe8c6252e35fc4a9a3354dc8dbd3a626e815814e389f4405ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鍾佳濱 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:45:43 - 11:54:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-23T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第10次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、國家發展委員會主任委員及衛生福利部首長就「美國實施進口產品國安調查對我國產業之影響及因應之道」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 主席詹老遠 先進列席的政務機關長 官員會長 工作夥伴 媒體記者 女士先生有請我們經濟部郭部長 還有產發署邱署長 以及國貿署的劉署長好 請上訴官員各位好部長好 兩位署長好 今天是要因應著美國的國安調查 但是我想請教一下 請看下一頁 |
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副長川普2.0關稅有兩種一個是IEEPA這是國際緊急經濟權利法是總統行使的給台灣跟各國暫緩了90天但是現在我們遇到的是什麼是232條款是屬於美國貿易擴張法第232條款這當中已經開針的已經是汽車跟鋼鐵現在真的調查中的是半導體跟藥品是不是這樣 |
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那讀到這邊所示這個232呢就是第四項受調查產品未符合國家安全標準所需要的成長條件主要是這一項嗎是不是部長是的好那我們來看一下那目前台灣已經對蘇美的半導體進行國安調查對台灣有什麼影響 |
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我看你們的報告啊對我們的當然這個是將來他關稅的一個依據不是啊 可是我看不出我們的半導體 你看喔台灣對美國出口半導體相關金額是八六八百億啊占全部對美國出口一億四億的將近八成所以半導體 藥品這幾個 汽車 這個都是但是我看我們的結果有受國安調查影響嗎 |
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我們有美國會關心我們的半島體蘇美有影響到國安嗎 |
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他會調查我們半導體哪些部分跟他國安有影響的對國安有影響的部分應該都是在先進製程先進製程好那我們先進製程應該不會有問題所以我是說你們後來講的有沒有講到先進製程所以我看結果的結論往下看真正要川普關心的會影響到我們的有沒有貨幣操縱台灣是不是被列入貨幣操縱的觀察名單是嗎 |
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是嗎是嗎但是我覺得經濟部門管的呢應該是有沒有可能轉運逃避關稅是不是這樣子這點還是習慘天是美國會最關切的是嗎好那我們現在看所以你來看喔在 |
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美國明天就要跟韓國協商了 結果韓國搶在新奇就公布了稀產地調查 先置清嘛的確韓國在2024年有將近8億是透過韓國稀產地賣到美國去單單今年的第一劑就已經接近了去年 前三個月接近去年的85%所以韓國是很認真的 包括什麼監視器啦這個韓國很認真的在置清嘛 那台灣呢 台灣有沒有 |
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台灣有沒有類似像韓國這樣 對自己做一個整體的調查有沒有去查違規金額啦 貨物流向的地點啦 有沒有去查我們在2月份就已經把這個監測系統建置完成所以有在那查了 跟韓國一樣 要自清對不對好 那我們來看一下但是呢 你看喔 美國在昨天就出手了喔他說對東南亞祭出高關稅防太陽能洗產地現在對美國洗產地 中國透過其他東亞國家洗產地到美國的是哪幾個國家 |
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是不是越南?泰國?馬來西亞?柬埔寨?柬埔寨高達克魯多少?3521%欸部長有沒有看過這麼高的所以表示什麼?美國很在意你們東南亞國家幫中國洗產地太陽能板到美國是不是這樣?是沒錯嘛好那我們往下看那請問台灣有沒有類似的情況?有沒有中國的太陽能板透過台灣洗產地到美國去有沒有? |
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應該是沒有因為我們中國的太陽能產品是不能進口的那很好了那有沒有中國的太陽能製品透過越南這些國家的產地到台灣來 |
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275.857 |
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我們會對這一個部分嚴格的做輸入的規定我們問一下因為實務上可能兩位署長這是應該國貿署還是產貿署管的產貿署還是能源署因為能源署沒有來誰知道來請說能源署有來有來能源署請說有沒有 |
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287.194 |
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是 這個沒有 我們以前已經處理過了以前有處理過就是中國的光電板透過越南西產地送來台灣我們當時是懷疑 所以我們有建立機制台灣一定要 沒有 現在沒有了你不敢說以前沒有 |
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297.512 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
322.427 |
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以前我們有防堵措施 然後實施之後我們可以確認我為了這個給你們開過會啦來 部長請回 我們部長來所以其實台灣真的要防止的不是中國或透過台灣的稀產地賣到美國去是台灣成為稀產地的受害者有沒有兩個 一個是供電板 一個呢有沒有中國的汽車零準件透過第三地稀產地來到台灣 賣到台灣來 有沒有有啊有 哪一個 |
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這邊有寫嘛中華嘛是不是這些汽車公司那有沒有防堵我們現在已經防堵了已經防堵了 對你們用什麼方式防堵呢哪位署長講一下怎麼防堵 |
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352.314 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
報告委員現在的話我們就要求他一定要一定比例的這個國產的這個比例一定比例多少第1年15%那最終要多少到35%的樣子部長我跟你說明一下因為我們在財政會過來了 |
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| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
在上週吳秉立委員問了財政部一個問題就是產地的問題對我們國家來講只要這個物品在台灣的價值部分超過35%就算是台灣產的但是美國在對進口來的貨物只要你含有35%的中國零件他就認為是中國的那請問一輛車它的零組件從中國進來的超過35%一半 |
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| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
在台灣組裝呢 台灣也加了一半那請問這輛車在台灣是不是認定是台灣產的是嘛 因為35%嘛 它一半嘛可是賣到美國去啟動另外一半是中國產製的 那美國認為它是誰產的這是考古題啊 上個星期無體內委員考過財政委員會了 |
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怎麼辦我們會建議這個業者出國前跟美國的客戶溝通那向美國的海關申請原產地的預算但是我不認為台灣有能力從中國進口一半的零組件在台灣加工一半之後再賣到美國去我擔心的是台灣的汽車廠進口超過一半的零組件在台灣從中國進口一半的零組件到台灣加工35%之後就對我們的消費者宣稱這是台灣的車有沒有可能 |
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有沒有可能 有嘛 署長都點頭了嘛所以剛剛那個35%我不滿意我希望台灣比照美國如果來到台灣要宣稱台灣出產的車子不只是35%必須台灣加值的也不能有超過35%是中國的 可以嗎 |
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| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
我們飛鴻供應鏈是我們現在積極在我們沒有供應給美國我們自己用的車我的意思就是說我們現在在發展的供應鏈我們希望排除中國的供應鏈所以也不能夠至少不能發作專屬方法所以汽車也會比較跟這個電子自動性商品一樣但是這個需要有一點時間 |
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| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
所以我們現在35%以後搞不好我們會再進一步往前剛剛邱署長說的是本國價值35%我是說含中國的成分不能多於35%所以你們有一個方法怎麼檢舉稀產地現在貿易法第17條之一有民眾可以檢舉喔檢舉出進口人的產地標示不實會予以獎勵你們的獎勵是什麼你知道嗎獎勵辦法第6條頒給獎勵狀跟獎座 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
這個誰管的貿易法誰管的署長你覺得有人會領獎狀去檢舉人家從中國進口西產地嗎不會那部長你覺得該怎麼做我們大概就是從罰款裡面再撥撥個一半給他太好了完全命中希望你們願意把這個提列罰款作為檢舉人獎金你答應了謝謝我們考慮這樣來做嘛才有誘因嘛 |