iVOD / 160433

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IVOD_ID 160433
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160433
日期 2025-04-22
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-3-8
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第3會期第8次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 3
會議資料.會次 8
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 第11屆第3會期第8次會議
影片種類 Clip
開始時間 2025-04-22T09:34:21+08:00
結束時間 2025-04-22T09:50:00+08:00
影片長度 00:15:39
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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委員名稱 翁曉玲
委員發言時間 09:34:21 - 09:50:00
會議時間 2025-04-22T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第3會期第8次會議(事由:一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月18日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月22日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 未來翁曉琳委員所有的所資一律都要送行政院合訂之後才能夠送出您說過這句話吧前面還有一句話我說我沒有權利叫委員站在後面去但是我有權利讓委員的所資我這裡了解站在哪裡不重要重要的是說你是不是說過這句話有嘛 對不對 你有說嘛對不對 我的所資你都要看過啊然後呢 你要合訂才能送出 對吧是
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 請問院長你現在看過我的鎖子嗎沒有為什麼沒有因為都不重要因為都不重要是嗎是嗎都不重要那你還說這句話你就是造謠嘛你就是你從頭到尾都是空口說白話從你一開始質詢我的影片到你現在所說的你哪一句不是空口說白話你只是很善情的告訴所有支持者說歐小林委員的鎖子你都要看你的鎖子都在院裡面啊
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 都在院裡面都在院裡面院的哪邊你告訴我現在我所知的幾份都還沒有送到我這裡來沒有收到嗎那我告訴你了我到目前為止從你說了這句話之後我陸陸續續到上個禮拜我已經送給行政院19份了
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 沒有安全之餘的沒有安全之餘你都沒有安全紀律你這麼確定你根本連看到都沒有看過你做不到的事情你就不要亂講所以由此可見你現在就是已經證明了一件事情就是卓院長說的話不可信你就說空口說牌的話你只會喊口號告訴支持者說要相信我們民進黨政府
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transcript.whisperx[20].text 要相信我們所做的 結果呢 你完全沒有做啊而且你根本就造謠聲勢這是我看到 你在對我的這些攻擊理念然後呢 我得出來的結果你說要所有的所知 你要看過我連我送了多少份 我送給哪個部會我告訴你根本沒有看過好 接下來我要問另外一個問題有重要的才會到我這裡來所以 我現在送的都不重要
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transcript.whisperx[21].text 都沒有國家安全之餘所以我之前問的那個就是國家安全機密我告訴你你趕快去看看吧你接下來可能還會做很多的校鄉宣講趕快去看看好好讀一讀我的所知我真的覺得你平常大概也有在讀書不要再出這種問題我們就沒有那種顧慮我接下來我要問一個更實際的問題行政院院這個去年就已經說公教人員加薪3%114年的這個政府總運算我們已經也通過了
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transcript.whisperx[22].text 總統3月21號就公告了可以請您告訴我到底這筆錢什麼時候會入賬因為關於預算的問題我們之前還送過復議案在復議案之前我們當然不依舊預算內容的動機總統3月21號公告了嘛14年總預算案已經公告了現在已經快要4月底了快5月了那3%的這個薪水什麼時候發嘛3%的薪水我們5月份就會發
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transcript.whisperx[23].text 確定那太好了看起來我的質詢還是有效果的今天早上就決定了這個上個禮拜質詢之後不是我們今天早上就決定了強調這個軍公教很倒楣就是因為我們的雇主是政府所以可以遲發薪水然後很多的什麼津貼啦考積啦這些都沒有發是因為三預算三到預算無法確定不要把責任擺到行政院身上來
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transcript.whisperx[24].text 委員始終要人民不相信政府委員始終要人民不相信政府但是你對法律解讀又是一知半解又要人民不相信政府是因為審預算三道讓預算沒有辦法順利起底請你不要質疑我不要質疑我一個法學教授我都過法學博士的這樣的一個專業我跟你比我比你懂得多好接下來我要問一下但是你不懂的地方更多那麼賴清德
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transcript.whisperx[25].text 那麼他在公布賴17條之後其實也引發國內很多的討論支持度還是不高的啊那麼將大陸認定為境外敵對勢力喔那麼我想這個可能要請陸委會主委請陸委會備詢
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transcript.whisperx[26].text 請教陸委會主委就是你知道目前到底我們有多少的台灣人在大陸工作這個就業居住生活
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transcript.whisperx[27].text 是,我們的估計有很多這種算法不過按照我們主計總署最近核算的大概有40萬的台商跟他們的眷屬在中國大陸就是比較長期常住在中國大陸的所以在那17條公布之後,政府有想到這群人的處境嗎?
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transcript.whisperx[28].text 跟委員報告我們這個十七條是基於我們自己國家安全社會安定是面對中共對於我們威脅非常嚴重不管是軍機艦擾台不管是成都二十二條經濟脅迫外交打壓
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transcript.whisperx[29].text 一連串的認知作戰、滲透分化這些複合性的施壓非常嚴重所以我們是在堅定的維護台海的現狀跟國人的幸福安全那我接下來要問的就是看這個情況兩岸敵對緊張的情勢將不斷升高我想問一下民進黨政府有沒有撤回台胞的計畫跟措施
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transcript.whisperx[30].text 委員你們應該知道日本因為因應台灣有事的情況計畫所以他們之前就有公布六天之內要撤離沖繩居民到九州集三口縣現在我們有四十多萬的台灣同胞在大陸算是長期的生活
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transcript.whisperx[31].text 那如果說兩岸的敵對情況不斷的升高而且真的發生什麼問題的話政府有沒有做撤回台胞計畫準備委員我們講這個17項的因應策略剛剛所說的都是在積極的維護台海現狀
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transcript.whisperx[32].text 我現在是問你們有沒有準備我們也有把兩岸的各種的風險透過我們海基會也好陸委會也好告訴我們在大陸生活的包括台商相關的人所以整體來講你們看起來你們還沒有做任何的準備那接下來我要再繼續請教就是因為最近大家討論很多的就是陸委會他建置你們建置的國人赴陸港澳動態登陸系統
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transcript.whisperx[33].text 而这套登录系统其实坦白说台湾的老百姓并不爱用我们现在到目前为止登录的比例大概也就只有2.45%这是你之前的所做的报告那我想问一请教主委就说到底我们登录这套系统之后
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transcript.whisperx[34].text 民進黨政府可以做什麼它的主要能夠發揮的效能是什麼是為了要幫助台灣同胞在大陸發生急難救助的時候你們可以幫得上忙是嗎
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transcript.whisperx[35].text 是 跟委員報告因為我們發現相當多的家屬來海基會 來陸委會報案說他們的家人失蹤了那同時呢也有很多人依照被法律限制他們的人身自由那這些呢都要我們知道個案再跟大陸去查核所以現在您剛說的這群人他們基本上都沒有登錄是都沒有登錄嗎 還他沒有登錄我現在想要質疑的就是
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transcript.whisperx[36].text 民進黨政府執政這些年其實與大陸方面的溝通管道是中斷的
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 官方的正式協商,由於他們有協商的前提,他們不願意跟我們持續的就既有的溝通聯繫機制,但是,用委員所說的,
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transcript.whisperx[38].text 但是登陸了之後你政府積極的作為在哪你到底有沒有能力可以去維護我們台高在大陸的權益我們就可以找到他家裡的相關的當事人當然也可以讓我們在大陸的這些旅遊人工作人員跟政府保持聯繫
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 如果有突發事件、意外事件、急難救助我們這個登錄系統可以連結政府的資源及時給...好,謝謝翁曉琳委員,謝謝卓院長