| IVOD_ID |
160375 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160375 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-18 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-18T12:39:28+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-18T12:46:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/581b6a75de55c17829e43c938cd8cb28e932105dec1242a7820ff8bd2fedc2bb861507bed890295c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
張啓楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:39:28 - 12:46:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-18T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第8次會議（事由：一、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢。二、4月18日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。三、4月22日下午2時15分至2時30分為處理臨時提案時間。） |
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大家好這是一個符合世界潮流也是符合最近這幾年我們國內的民意從美式民調都獲得很高支持度的重啟核電台灣民眾黨這次提出了重啟核三的公投因為全世界的潮流都在返回核能美國在用核電日本在用核電南韓也在用核電 |
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美國能 日本能 南韓能為什麼台灣不能全世界現在只有民進黨的政府不止不符合世界的潮流跟民調 跟世界潮流是對撞的而且因為民進黨執政以來把核一廠 核二廠停掉核三廠的一號機停掉在最近的時間馬上就到了下個月的5月17號台灣的核電廠全部都沒有了 |
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民進黨關掉了三個核電六座基礎導致我們一年營運成本買電的這個成本多了一千億這也是導致台灣最近這幾年三年撥了三千億四年漲了五次電價電價一直漲台電一直虧損主要的原因所以核電我們去做了民調 |
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台灣民眾黨是一個理性務實科學的政黨我們要推動之前做了一個民調裡面發現問說 |
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再生能源現在沒有達標因為民進黨一直在講他們再生能源在今年要達到20%他們把17%的核電停掉之後他們要20%結果到目前為止連12%都不到嚴重跳票在這種狀況之下電力供應有不穩定你是不是支持用核電 |
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支持的65%左右反對的只有23%而且20歲到29歲50到59歲支持度都超過7成研究所以上學歷的高達8成5左右是支持的我們進一步來問你是不是同意恆春的河山廠經過整體安全評估之後繼續營運啊哇 支持度更高了 |
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同意的70.1%反對的更低的只有18.7%所以從民調上面很清楚民進黨如果再反對你就跟國內的民意強碰了另外另外大家如果看這段時間民進黨主席請時間暫停 |
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請時間暫停時間暫停請大家尊重發言委員權益我們是一個民主的社會你們有意見 待會換你來講你們上來講全世界核廢料都有辦法處理 你為什麼沒辦法處理你為什麼沒辦法處理 |
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美國可以 日本可以 為什麼台灣不行呢而且你去屏東看看 屏東的民調鄉長 村里長是不是贊成要繼續用火山廠各位委員再一次呼籲尊重發言委員權益時間暫停 |
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時間暫停好 謝謝再一次拜託大家尊重發言委員的權益請繼續 |
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你們不要硬撓也不要在台下你有本事你等一下我們在講道理的地方等一下你上來講嘛 |
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經得起簽名的檢視吧等一下上來講跟全民交代經得起簽名的檢視等一下請莊惠熊跟在台下的王一川你們對全民交代經得起全民的檢視時間暫停我再次呼籲大家馬上要進行大體討論我們尊重一下提案子去提案人的發言 |
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大家不同的意見等一下都可以講出來好不好好請大家再一次呼籲大家請繼續張啟凱委員請繼續請調回去兩分鐘他們干擾了我的發言請繼續 |
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這是一個公投案啦到時候是要全民一起來檢視的民進黨不要緊張你們都浪費了人民過電成本一年一千億你們怎麼補沒有講第二個是我繼續要講的你們不只是再生能源嚴重落後跳票了你們去買了太貴的綠能的同時發生了一堆的這個弊案 |
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我給大家看這個數據從2021年到2024年的9月份光是這個時間點有發生檢方去偵辦的案子 光電的弊案就有136件民進黨有沒有要去盯著你們為什麼買出這麼多的貴又貴又是有弊案呢 |
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起訴了91個人生壓了33個人第二個又買了比全世界更貴的這個綠電買了全世界更貴的綠電一度電啦平均這個是台電的資料今年1月份 |
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台電的質量民進黨政府去買歷電比全世界貴太多了一度電平均5.81塊然後用濁電髒電的價格賣出去賣3.38導致台電一直虧損一直漲我們的電價所以既要降電價也應該重新用核電現在我們面臨高關稅的這個衝擊民進黨不是要去談判嗎重啟核電特別是核三 |
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讓核電去買美國的技術跟設備我們的逆差可以降下來也穩定我們的電力供應電價不只不用漲還可以降請大家支持這個公投提案謝謝 |
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張委員啓楷：全世界核廢料都有辦法處理，為什麼臺灣沒辦法處理？為什麼沒有辦法處理？ |
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主席：各位委員，再一次呼籲，請尊重發言委員權益，時間暫停。 |
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我給大家看數據，從2021年到2024年的9月份，光是這個時間點，有發生檢方偵辦的案子、光電弊案就有136件，民進黨有沒有要去盯著？你們為什麼買出這麼多又貴又是有弊案呢？起訴了91個人，聲押了33個人。第二個，又買了比全世界更貴的綠電，這個是台電的資料、今年1月份台電的資料，民進黨政府去買綠電比全世界貴太多了，1度電平均5.81塊，然後用濁電、髒電的價格賣出去，賣3.38，導致台電一直虧損，一直漲我們的電價，所以基於要降電價也應該重新用核電。 |
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現在我們面臨高關稅的衝擊，民進黨不是要去談判嗎？重啟核電，特別是核三，讓核電一方面去買美國的技術跟設備，我們的逆差可以降下來，也穩定我們的電力供應，電價不只不用漲，還可以降，請大家支持這個公投提案，謝謝。 |
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主席：謝謝張啓楷委員的發言。 |
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主席：謝謝張啓楷委員的發言。 |
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主席：報告院會，我們進行大體討論，每位委員發言3分鐘，並截止登記。 |
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首先請鍾佳濱委員發言，徐富癸委員請準備。 |
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院會-11-3-8 |
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韓國瑜 |
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張啓楷 |
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郭國文 |
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2025-04-18 |
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1143701 |
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1143701_00002 |
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立法院第11屆第3會期第8次會議紀錄 |
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本院台灣民眾黨黨團，建請院會作成決議：「一、『0121嘉義大埔地震』對嘉義、台南地區造成
嚴重衝擊，災後重建刻不容緩。中央政府各部門應秉持『從寬、從速、從簡』原則，積極協助受
災居民，特別是在租金補貼、弱層補強、拆除重建等方面提供適當資源，確保災區居民得以迅速
恢復正常生活。二、目前針對受損建築之評估主要依據結構技師對房屋主體結構（樑柱）之勘查
結果，導致部分受災戶無法獲得應有之補助。然而，許多受災房屋雖樑柱未受嚴重影響，但牆
體、樓梯等關鍵結構已出現明顯龜裂甚至崩塌，影響居住安全。因此，中央政府應積極會同地方
政府主動輔導民眾辦理建築物耐震能力初步評估及弱層補強經費補助，針對耐震能力不足之結構
提供補助與技術支持，以提升建築物抗震能力，降低未來災害風險。三、目前紅黃單之補助辦法
缺乏統一標準，特別是連棟透天厝因共同柱結構問題，導致部分住戶難以進行整排重建。例如，
若相鄰住戶分別被貼紅單與黃單，紅單戶可獲得重建補助，而黃單戶則無法受惠，進而影響整體
重建進程。因此，政府應檢討紅黃單認定標準，使連棟透天厝住戶能夠獲得公平且一致之補助，
以利重建作業順利推動。四、目前多數紅單房屋已進入都市更新及危險老舊建築重建程序，並可
透過容積獎勵機制降低重建負擔。然而，對於無意願參與危老或都市更新計畫之災戶，應比照
『0403花蓮地震』模式，制定『0121嘉義大埔震災復原自用住宅重建補助方案』。該方案應以原
地原容積興建成本之85%作為補助基準，並設立上限，並於兩個月內完成相關辦法之訂定，以確
保受災居民能及時獲得援助。五、針對已認定為紅單之毀損房屋，其拆除、運輸及去化費用，應
依法由地方政府優先動用災害準備金支應，倘若地方財政無法負擔，則由中央政府全額補助，以
確保拆除作業順利推動，減輕地方財政壓力，並加速災區復原進程。」是否有當？請公決案─通
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