| IVOD_ID |
160265 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160265 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T12:45:00+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T12:52:10+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:10 |
| 支援功能[0] |
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| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279dfc9d23c07ff8cc951b2710058b23c04f81a52cf64e50924c04c7f6e4539bc04505ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
廖先翔 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:45:00 - 12:52:10 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議議程（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員、經濟部部長及財政部首長就「因應國際貿易情勢變化，如何協助國內廠商擴大國際市場」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好謝謝主席麻煩邀請我們郭部長郭部長委員好部長好這個談到貿易嘛就是做生意嘛一般來說企業或者是商家做生意是為了什麼商家做生意是為了什麼 |
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商家做生意我開一家公司是為了什麼 |
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每一家的目的不會一樣吧應該是賺錢吧應該是一個普世的大家應該有一個共同的社會的認知我開一家公司就是賺錢啦社會企業就不一定他可能還會有一些這個社會的價值那什麼ESG啊或是什麼的那是附加的社會的責任啦那普遍大家開公司就是為了賺錢啦不是做功德啦那既然是為了賺錢那就是可能國際上貿易就是有順差嘛 |
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順差了之後我做生意成功了我賺了很多錢那你因為可能你的生意做得沒有那麼好你賺得比較少或者是在國際貿易上面有了逆差那你要透過其他的手段來要求來說減這個貿易的順差逆差我想這可能是國際社會上面對於川普的一個政策許多的一個批評的一個地方那也因為這個對等關稅他們希望縮減了 |
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順差跟貿易這個順差他們希望有更多的一些我們可能會有一些希望他會希望有更多的對美的一個投資那其中有一個項目然後其中有一個項目是這個美國AIT的時候有在提的就是一些核電的技術那剛剛部長在詢問的時候有說新的技術新的技術我們不會排斥然後就看新的技術到怎樣 |
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那原來這樣核融核的技術目前國際上的新聞可能2030年最快商轉那可能這個都小規模到真的大規模的營運可能還是還要很久一個未知的時間那短期內可能還是一個還是會以核分裂的方式來做討論的一個標的啦那既然是傳統的核電廠那就有一個核廢料的問題那部長我的選區就是在萬里那萬里就是有一個核二廠那他就是有一個核廢料處理這個問題那包括台電目前在做 |
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這個室外乾除已經發包了那室內乾除也準備要做了啦那無論如何我們目前對外的說法萬裡不是最終的處置場目前我們對外的說法是這樣子嘛對不對 |
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我們這個儲置場要看這個科技的方式嘛最起碼我從這個原來的這個槽裡面要把這些這個用過的核廢料做一些乾式的儲藏對 目前大概就是一個中期的儲置嘛我們並沒有對外宣稱最終的儲置場在萬里但是實際上我們的國家並沒有找到最終的儲置場 |
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目前的進度是還沒有找到嘛普遍上社會也會預期找到最終處置場是非常的困難是非常困難的事情這是一個科幻的事實所以說中期的一個處置到底會在萬里百多久它是一個未定數那許多人認為很多地方的鄉親會認為 |
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可能在他的有生之年他的有生之年這些包括室外的乾除或是室內的乾除他都不會離開萬里在他的有生之年可能我現在60歲了有些長輩60歲了你說50年後目標50年後要離開萬里對我來說他是沒有意義的對他來說就是終身都放在他的家鄉是在萬里所以說萬里的有些好朋友希望說討論 |
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我們萬里既然我們國家沒有找到一個最終的處置場那我們現在是不是能夠務實的來討論我們的萬里它就是最終處置場的一個形態很多的民眾會是這樣討論因為中期跟最終處置它在回饋金上面有一定的差別在法定上面也有一定的差別那既然在我們的有生之年對我來說 |
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對每個人來說不一樣或許是剛出生的民眾來說未來他可能在未來五六十年的時間有可能離開萬里但是對一個五六十歲的民眾來講的話你五六十年後離開萬里對他是沒有意義的你的中期跟最終處置場是沒有意義的 |
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我們萬里有部分的民眾希望經濟部能夠務實地來討論有沒有辦法用最終處置場的一個法令或者是回饋的辦法來務實地告訴大家短期內沒有辦法離開那我們就用最終處置場的一個法令跟回饋的辦法來回饋萬里的鄉親不曉得部長認為這是不是有討論的機會這個我想我們來參考其他的國家的處理模式 |
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我們也沒有什麼獨特的經驗嘛是然後我們就看其他的國家它處理模式怎麼樣來作為一個參考的辦法就是說我們當然是說現在萬里它就是一個戶外乾除跟室內乾除的一個中期處置但是當我們還沒有找到最終處置長之前我們不曉得它會在萬里擺多久很多人認為就是離不開萬里啦實務上很多人認為就是歸植在萬里那既然是在這樣的情況下 |
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我們的回饋辦法就不能夠用中期的處置嘛因為你是對他們來說他是永遠的地方在那邊我想這個都是有法律的認定啦是那我們還是依法去作業啦那也會參考國外的一些科技的進步啦我想這個科技進步日新月異嘛那這個最終處置廠會在哪個地方我想美國他們也或者是世界科技的國家也都有一些這個paper出來嘛 |
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那我們會參考最新的科技的處置方式作為我們這個最後決策之用 |
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我想今天時間也不多我希望未來還有機會能夠跟部長討論在核廢料的處置上面如果我們國家沒有辦法很明確的告知我們萬里在地的民眾我們的最終處置場會在哪邊找到會在多久時間之內找到多久會移開萬里那我們就必須要討論一下我們必須可能要雖然說我們現在是中期的處置但是我們的可能的適用的法令在你沒有提出辦法或者說部長你講的新技術還沒有提出來之前大家認為會一直留在萬里這樣的情況下我們適用的回饋了一個 |
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補助辦法就希望能夠用最終處置場的一個違規的補助方式來跟我們經濟部的討論希望未來有更多的機會你也可以不一定我是一個民營代表或是說你們也可以請我們台電或合二廠的一個相關的部門未來在跟鄉親在做討論的時候你們也可以收集一下相關的意見我傳遞的是不是鄉親的意見希望經濟部能夠重視這件事情以上謝謝 |