| IVOD_ID |
160240 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160240 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-9 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
9 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T11:35:20+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T11:43:55+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:35 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279df4cc21cbfba9b3026b2710058b23c04f8ebda33721556222a939d2a991c27a3a05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:35:20 - 11:43:55 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第9次全體委員會議議程（事由：邀請國家發展委員會主任委員、經濟部部長及財政部首長就「因應國際貿易情勢變化，如何協助國內廠商擴大國際市場」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席那我們請經濟部我們郭部長郭部長委員好部長好 辛苦了這個我記得我們是在上個禮拜五4月11透過視訊的方式跟美國進行了這個有關關稅的談判是不是是那 |
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美方的這個談判的大概的層級方便透露嗎我不是談判委員那你知不知道談判的內容談判的內容跟委員報告就是說我們大概第一個是談這個對等關稅第二個是非關稅貿易障礙第三個出國管制 |
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以上這三個命題那這三個議題本來就是我們所關心的嘛那我的意思是說跟美方談完之後有沒有我們一些政策要去做調整的到目前為止我們沒有收到談判小組的一些需求可是已經差不多一個禮拜的時間了 |
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就是說談完之後還沒有說我們目前的這個不論是總統府或是行政院關於這次的這個關稅一些政策然後因為有談判之後我們有哪一些需要做調整有哪一些不足的或是有哪一些下一回合繼續在跟他們談的內容 |
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是報告委員談判進行中有很多不便在這裡報告的地方我知道啦但是就是說就我剛才所提到的有沒有方便可以提供訊息的地方也讓我們的業者能夠安心大家可以安心啦我想這個總統跟院長都曾經在4月12號跟大家報告過了談判的過程非常的這個順暢大概沒有什麼太大的問題 |
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我可以問一下談判時間大概多久嗎這個在談判的時間多久我其實也沒有掌握 |
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你都沒有想要說像我一樣去關心一下說談判單一天的視訊談判大概時間有多久然後有關經濟部的內容大概是怎麼樣我們都分工合作啦我想談判小組然後他們需要我們的資料support我們都會來準備是這樣子好那半導體的部分有談到嗎 |
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我到目前為止沒有收到談判小組的指示好 那預期會不會有第二輪的這個談判當然會有 因為這個第一個談判是在談判決定第二次談判的時候要談什麼它裡面的重點是什麼那有沒有第二次的談判的範圍大概是在哪裡呢就是剛才所講的那裡面的題目 |
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所以是跟第一次談的應該會更具體更聚焦才對啊對啊是更具體更聚焦只是我們那個是在進行中的事情好那我就問說這個有關半導體跟藥品因為現在這個美國他們認為說這個是屬於這個有關國安的部分那他們有可能會再課個關稅但是不論是半導體或是藥品對我們來講都相當的重要那尤其是半導體的部分的話那我想請教一下部長就半導體這部分的話跟美方 |
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談判的這個情況是怎麼樣現在還沒有進入談這個部分美國他必須要針對這個因為對美國來講半導體是一個非常重要特別是先進半導體這屬於他國安的問題所以美國在跟我們談之前他現在正在做一波國安的調查所以我們政府的立場就是密切的觀察 |
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這個調查到目前到結果會怎麼樣那對我們來講我們也了解國內的半導體廠商了解他們的狀況以後我們會積極的跟美國的政府來協商因為畢竟台灣的半導體跟美國的業者彼此的關係是非常緊密的我想就您所知道的 |
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比如說昨天這個AMD他們來台灣跟我們的供應鏈在開會在談事情也就是說大家很清楚AMD是Fabless的公司所有的供應鏈都是由台灣這邊來製造來組裝的 |
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所以這個地方因為我們做完的東西要回到美國對他來講所有的稅對他來講都是他要付的問題不是我們付所以台灣跟美國來講在半導體這個領域裡面是完全的策略夥伴 |
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所以不是只有我們關心他是user所以美國的七大科技產業幾乎都把製造圍給台灣所以這個命題來講其實對我們台灣來講對客人美國的客人更是非常的重大我知道所以我相信這個美國政府他也會考慮這樣的一個狀況大概半導體如果以美國政府的考量那50%世界的市場都是在美國 |
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那你們有做過模擬關稅就像之前的關稅我們有模擬就是說大概幾%到幾%那有關於半導體的關稅你們有個模擬大概會落在多少到多少之間嗎 |
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這個我想這個要由這個美國那一方面來提出來他們當然會提出來 因為他現在在做調查嘛 對不對那我們這邊應該有因應嘛 就像是之前就是說這個4月2號之前我們也是做這個關稅的模擬那現在沒想到說一下子課到32%當然後來還有時候調整了 現在先10%那我的意思是說 我們經濟部有沒有對這個半導體的這個關稅 |
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因為這裡面大概我們會當然會有一些模擬就是理性的模擬會怎麼樣做那非理性的模擬又會怎麼做但是超過這兩個範圍的話我們就很難去把握不過我們現在的策略上面就是希望推動國內的業者跟美國的業者共同 |
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來關心這個命題然後希望也就是說不是只有我們單方面的就是我們也希望說我們也跟美方的業者來講因為最終他們產品是由他們來做的 |
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那是不是也透過他們來希望讓美國的這個不管是貿易部或是他們的這個談判單位能夠就關稅這方面一起來合作來做一個管控美國他會針對半導體跟藥品這個命題對世界丟出一個他想要談的關稅就像之前的這個鋼跟鋁這樣一樣 |
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然後在各個國家來跟他談這個是談判的一個手法基本上我們會爭取讓我們台灣的廠商具有競爭力的關稅我們要求它是在一個立足點是一個非常平等的具有競爭力的關稅這個是我們跟美國的這些客戶共同努力的一個方向那我們有跟台積電有談過了嗎 |
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我們跟台積電台積電是一個Fabless的公司它並不是一個品牌公司對 我說有跟我是說有跟台積電提過說未來半導體的關稅 |
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他們有沒有一個範圍我們其實跟委員報告我們其實2024年輸到美國的被認定這個半導體只有74億的美金啊然後占全球出口量只有4.6%所以很難這樣去定義好那所以你的意思是說我們要等這一個川普那邊宣布了對半導體的關稅是多少之後我們再來去跟他們談嗎還是怎麼樣 |
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沒有這是我們現在大家在努力嘛大家在努力美國的客戶他們會直接跟美國的政府去反應嘛台灣這邊我們不斷的這個也是準備讓談判小組有更豐富的這些資訊嘛那將來在談判的時候可以拿出來好OK好謝謝部長謝謝主席好 |