| IVOD_ID |
160198 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160198 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-26-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
26 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
社會福利及衛生環境委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-16T10:31:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-16T10:40:25+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:23 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/f9d2e74df98279df31185e457dff64add598beef862d51bbd146475ae9ed72cd48bf7fb5696d4c0f5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
蘇清泉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:31:02 - 10:40:25 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-16T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期社會福利及衛生環境委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請衛生福利部部長就「面對國際經貿情勢瞬變，我國如何因應並確保藥品、醫療器材等各面向供應正常，保障國人權益。」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
【4月16日及17日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝,謝謝主席我請部長不然部長就這麼客啦,時從兩開就好啦你先休息,你先休息部長休息一下請時書長他很聰明,不用玩弄阿維也好 |
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我們剛才全世界都有一個神經病的川普,沒有到大家都氣笑無來無去,每天都吃飯、進展說一行、吃飯包說一行、睡覺又一行今天還可以說不一樣的 |
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大家都對他都要洗臉都沒有意義嘛我講我們講國內的先講國內的 署長你現在要跟醫療院所簽約 特款辦法我做這一段時間觀察齁你跟部長跟署長很認真去弄了很多公務預算進來然後拿了五百億左右嘛齁 今年差不多多了五百億不只不只 |
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我們的那個總額的成長比去年增加530億億但是還有原本去年的總額支應的用公務預算變略110億億然後再加上癌藥基金的50億、癌藥加20億又加了180億億 那個都到位嗎?都到位了 都到位了所以一共是730億億我感覺你剛才把這10年來要做的工作都在這間要補完了什麼 |
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什麼東西欠就說沒關係,我現在有錢可以開我現在有錢可以開那上禮拜質詢的時候我還救了我們醫事室為什麼陳雲委員在門外部立醫院的放射師約聘人員剛剛來報到起薪才三萬多塊三萬多塊喔那你現在說要兩倍 |
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兩倍是多少?現在兩萬九千多了,兩倍要六萬,有六萬嗎?沒有我媽最喜歡茶,我自己買了,我水、茶、取血取血放射師的薪水差不多四萬五、四萬六,基本薪水然後大小業拿了之後才五萬多塊 |
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那COVID-19三年每一個月可以拿到一萬塊的津貼因為UGB照片子所以那三年就是說12萬、12萬、12萬、36萬所以現在的放射式也是五、六萬 |
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所以你說要讓人脾氣噴在六萬塊有的14個師、醫師相關人員,14個師字背著有困難所以就跳起來了,連王振旭也跳起來了我都不說話,我今天自己問而已你現在的態度是什麼? |
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跟委員報告確實啦就是說我們今年的預算也比較多也很希望來調整現在第一線醫務人員的薪資啦所以我們在這個修法裡面希望把它納入大家一起來替第一線人員加薪啦至於說幅度要多少啊倍數怎麼計算啊有沒有這個醫院成績之間的落差我想後面的細節我們都可以再跟大家溝通討論這個只是在草案階段而已診所都哇哇叫嘛 |
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而且我們部長應該感受到基層給他的回饋所以還是要好好的討論討論一下當然我們希望每一個議事人員都領十萬塊我個人覺得從現在開始這兩三年 |
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醫療院所如果有決議,應該大幅來挑釁醫護人員,因為醫護相關人力是我們的寶貝啦,不然這個人你也不擔心啦所以我比較感覺,我眼睛看的差不多就是說,要挑釁,讓他們做得到啦,不然就慘了 |
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第二要說的那些福利的,真的我這兩天又接到很多就是,像是在我們北京、西日本那邊,雞翁、小雞現在在騙小孩,現在小孩比較大,在看幼稚園、在照顧孩子但是你要叫他回來做補課時間,沒辦法,他絕對沒辦法,要叫他做part-time四點鐘,這樣他沒辦法,他很希望,因為前兩個小孩、三個小孩,對他來說,一個人賺錢是不夠的 |
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所以這個在美國很多啊,美國就是有那個醫管公司啊,人力中介公司,它全部都在登錄下面就一兩百個護理師啊,我很多朋友的太太都在那邊,工作嘛這個很好,收入也不錯,所以這個,這個我等一下算一算應該有五六萬人,保證五六萬人,沒錯 |
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所以這個醫事相關人力的薪資我是覺得要好好的來研究啦你做補助你跟署長你們兩個有這個位置有這個管理還有這個機會就要好好來調整啦如果出去唱歌 唱歌應該補助你也夠了啦這件比較繁細 不會唱半場八百八十萬我看你都不出去唱啦 |
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因為環境部長跟我說,讓我去找部長,很難找到,都沒找到很厲害的,反倒在死第二個,我們的燃料藥燃料藥剛剛林書恩也講了,很多人都講了,我不要再贅述我們的燃料藥本土開發廠、燃料廠 |
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它的製造燃料的成本是進口進來的多了40%到50%所以假期我寫的成本你當然要在印度買也要在中國、大陸買所以自己要開發的這你要把它撐起來你要把它給它紋亂把它補充還是說什麼把它補掉不然的話這個隨時會打仗看起來隨時會出問題所以這些燃料要有長你要下去盤點 |
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潘典光對這件事在做,我們就要把他勾勒他要做完之後就不簡單了,因為我們市場太小嘛再來我看到白亞啦,Pfizer啦什麼什麼,里來啦,全部都已經跟川普promise說他們要回去美國設廠這個要投資200億,那個要投資300億,我不知道是真的假的啦 |
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可能會讓我們給川普去送一下真的會到位嘛我很懷疑那這些譬如說菲瑞他的廠有在澳大利亞有在馬來西亞都有去看過這些進來進來台灣這算美國廠的藥還是算澳大利亞來的藥你們現在在盤點的時候我們盤點的話是以他的進口美國製造 |
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那如果澳大利亞 澳洲出走的還是馬來西亞 馬來西亞有藥廠 |
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那個我們是看他進來的那個製造地點那個製造廠所以他的工廠在哪裡你就要送所以你剛才在說的這樣有精確嗎像你美國進來的藥就是那個176項那個金額好像會有出入啦差不多200億左右啦所以佔了我們 |
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10%有喔我們大概一年藥費大概在2500億左右所以最後一個問題就是洗產地 |
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我們昨天一直在講,昨天也在講嘛,好施展地,台南的東西拿來我們家然後這邊轉口賣到美國,MIC變成MIT,會不會這樣我昨天接到一個很大廠的那個醫師商,美國的他說他們不能,他們進到大陸要125%嘛他說他們不能進到台灣來,然後再轉去大陸 |
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他從美國進來幾乎是零我們這邊去大陸幾乎是零這變成他們在洗我們會不會 這個也有可能所以這個都要很注意好不好我們也很鼓勵在台灣製造在台灣製造其實對我們的供應韌性也是可以增強 |
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十大藥廠世界十大藥廠在20年前都在台灣有設廠現在連一家都沒有全部跑光了為什麼量太少所以跑到東南亞區跑到中國大陸區這是事實所以一家都沒有現在一家都沒有全部都賣給編毒藥廠所以這個是知識體大所以跟部長還有署長你們要 |
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謝謝委員 |