| IVOD_ID |
160132 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160132 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-11T17:32:31+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-11T17:47:33+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:02 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/612fb6649aede235beecb43d8454de4f4ee85e61fece82c2d9574523edc1765d07496cb2378364c25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
謝衣鳯 |
| 委員發言時間 |
17:32:31 - 17:47:33 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議（事由：一、覆議案之處理事項（4月11日上午）。二、行政院院長提出針對美國關稅政策因應作為專案報告並備質詢（4月11日下午）。三、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢（4月15日）。四、4月11日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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我相信這一次的美國對等關稅這樣子的即便現在已經延長90天我想不只是只有台灣對於所有我們的競爭對手或者是我們其他周邊的國家而言都是非常重大的一個議題你認同嗎 |
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是的未來我們即將要去對美方來談判了你有沒有信心你有沒有信心為台灣爭取最大的這樣子一個目標你的目標是什麼我們從去年成立 |
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經濟外交工作小組所鎖定的是未來整個世界經貿情勢秩序的大變動因為在去年11月又成立了台美經貿專案小組就是準備在當美國政策又發生大的改變的時候我們能夠在最短的時間內能夠調適回來所以這個準備是長期的其中包括對美的採購對美的投資以及現在因應這個關稅的變化這個都是在 |
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預期當中可能發生的那我們一定要等到一個情勢具體出來一些我們會做適度的研判分析以及整個涉算像這次關稅就這樣子為什麼我們4月3號沒有辦法第一時間因為第一4月3號我們算的那個試算是在10%到20%20%到30%結果它跑到32%那就不是算數等級的那必須往上加 堆加我們整個產業受損受困的這個狀況 |
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所以我們延了一天就是把整個支持方案升級之後才向國能做報告表示我們是有準備但隨著情勢是機動性在調整對我問的是你的目標是什麼未來那都已經過去的但是你未來我們談判的整體的目標是什麼以及怎麼樣子減少對台灣產業的衝擊是不是終極的目標就是爭取國家最大的利益維持產業的國際競爭力 |
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那對於國家最大的利益不是關稅嗎我們希望關稅能夠比韓國比日本還要低啊這是我們主要競爭的國家嘛 是不是是關稅的比較不是直接面對面而是跟我們鄰近競爭對手的比較那這是大家會心裡產業有相關的競爭性的嘛 是不是那這次大家心裡壓力大是因為包括韓國包括日本都比我們低啊所以大家的心裡壓力就會大我們期待 |
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透過合理的談判之後我們能夠爭取到公平的關稅待遇我當然知道要透過談判那我是說你有沒有設定我們有沒有機會比日本比韓國低我們在努力就是這個方向 |
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有沒有 你要有信心啊每個國家都死書渾身解數啊你都沒信心了當然對我們的談判代表有信心對談判代表有信心是不是那你明天就要去彰化了我要問你的是 |
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對於行政院所提出的880億那我們去跟產業談那當然希望能夠直接的協助產業嘛那對於明天要協助的產業像優惠的貸款部分我想要請問喔就是對於傳產以及中小微創產業我們的優惠利率要不要解碼我們有解碼檢集碼 |
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來我來看看因為這個數字我來看看優惠的利率我們在金融支持方面優惠的利率 |
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那我看一下好在這裡我們這個中小微企業的貸款的加碼是有的我們變略的預算是50億貸款的額度最高可以到350 3500萬我是說出口的部分140億2000的2000億的貸款額度那我說你的利息優惠減碼減碼是多少2.22這個是 |
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標準在計算我們貸款在250萬內的會減補貼1.51.5碼嗎是不是財政部長這個是這個部分我們好多部分都有金融支持是不是降低1.5碼跟委員報告我們對於出口廠商他的貿易融資我們是以2000億這樣的一個融資規模讓 |
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出口廠商在貿易融資的時候我們的利率是減1%也就是說他如果跟銀行貸款的利率是2%的話那我們就讓他減1%那他只要付1%的利率那如果說他的產他受的衝擊更大的話 |
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那單一廠商可以申請優惠貸款的最高額度是多少他一年最高可以減少利息到600萬好剛才院長所提到的中小微創是50億對於中小微創的貸款的申請是50億那對於他們的轉型升級的貸款會不會利息也減嗎 |
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中小微有啊會不會中小微剛剛我們減1.5% 貸款在250萬以內的會減嘛 也會減嘛是不是貸款的部分會減啦但是我們個案補助都到500萬如果是產業聯盟可以到4000萬 |
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這個是對研發轉型的補助就是剛才我想委員在說明的這個部分還有過去對於傳產或者中小微等等的在紓困的期間的貸款那他們在申請貸款的時候都由信保基金來做擔保那最高的成數是八成 |
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未來會不會提高在這一次的情況下我們有沒有預期要提高信保基金擔保成數到我們到95%了有嗎有會到95%是不是會再更高是不是對對好那希望我們能夠用最大的誠意來協助企業可以嗎 |
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還有一項就是過去在紓困貸款的時候對於受信業人員就是銀行的受信人員我們要不要解除他除了有重大的行政疏失以外我們要不要解除他們的行政責任 |
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要不要委員提的這個部分也就是行員很介意的就是他的財務的責任的部分我想這個部分其實那個時候就已經讓他可以不要受這個部分的財務責任會不會比照我想這一次我們都是從速從寬從優來說那對於這個行員他們並沒有任何違背任何法令但是因為廠商的衝擊他產業的一些影響的話當然在財務責任上我們應該給予豁免 |
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還有行政責任跟財務責任這是過去我們在紓困的時候我們對於產業紓困的時候這第20條我們都有免除這些行員在受信的時候這些除了重大的疏失以外要免除他們的財務以及行政責任是不是剛剛部長答覆的是這樣因為他不是自己 |
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任何個人故意的行為是不是因為你在紓困的期間為了重塑、重寬、重減嘛那是不是要免除這些受信人員的這樣子的行政跟財務責任會不會列進去 |
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這個部分我想我們會一起跟今晚會一起來把它放到讓行業們了解這一塊好還有過去我們也是在疫情期間對於非常多的企業他們放無薪假對於企業放無薪假的勞工我們也要不要比照辦理給予薪資補貼 |
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這個部分誰可以回答有安定基金嘛誰可以回答我們在勞工安定就業的這個措施裡面就有薪資的補貼 |
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會不會也要比照過去COVID的時候這樣子的我們確實有規劃就是針對如果放應該是委員的意思應該是減班休息啦在減班的休息的時候我們有規劃包括薪資補貼或者是一些訓練上面的補貼來去彌補勞工可能如果在遇到減班休息上面的時候他薪資上面的就是收入上面的衝擊跟影響目前是有規劃的 |
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好 最後我想要請教的就是我們央行的楊總裁因為畢竟這是關稅的手段未來 |
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在我們現在所了解的就是川普總統的首席經濟顧問米倫他的這個海福莊園協議裡面關稅手段只是第一步接下來他希望的是美元可以貶值那如果美元貶值對於依賴出口的台灣產業 |
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你認為會造成多大的影響以及它的美元貶值這個貨幣的手段有沒有可能成功我跟委員報告就是說事實上匯率是由市場決定的不是說美國說它美元要貶值就貶值 |
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我知道那他是市場決定的啊他是市場決定所以呢美元呢就長期來看的話呢他有升值的時候他也有貶值的時候所以呢也就是說市場決定的一個價位他你很難是說用人為的一個方式讓他就說要不讓他貶值就貶值因為是市場來決定長期來講的話他是由市場來決定 |
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對那如果美元貶值因為現在目前很多的廠商都也希望台幣可以貶是不是對於我們的出口才有利因為廠商我跟委員報告就是說我們的外匯市場 |
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我們的外匯市場它的參與者不是只有我們的廠商還有包括很多的外資外資也是還有包括我們旅遊的人這些都是參與者所以也不是說只有廠商所以也就是說外匯市場所決定的是一個供需來決定的它是一個市場價格 |
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也不是說是由誰來決定它的匯率所以你認為米倫他所說的重塑這個全球的貿易體系當然他是以美元為出發點以美債這樣子的一個出發點那這個情況下我們未來國內的廠商要怎麼因應 |
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那當然就是說 廠商第一個就是說他要有避險的這個第一個那第二個呢 專業銀行要盡我們的力量因為市場如果說是他波動得太大的時候呢專業銀行會去做某些的調節讓他的那個波動度不要太大 |
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那就是這樣子第一個要避嫌第二個中央銀行能夠讓這個匯率能夠動態穩定就是這樣子 |
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那你有沒有信心維持我們的匯率穩定當然有信心因為這個是全球的我們就說了美元的參與者不只有台灣而已是不是這是全球的長期以來我們新台幣都非常穩定的動態穩定所以這個對進出口廠商都是很好的 |
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所以你有信心可以維持台幣的穩定是沒有問題那所以明天我們院長去彰化的時候可以告訴所有的廠商台幣會穩定不用擔心我們匯率的問題那會不會把相關的避險的相關的這樣子的方式也會一併的告訴廠商讓小廠商也了解 |
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基本上就是說銀行都是有這些的避險工具所以這些中小企業他都可以利用的就是會不會院長會不會把順便能夠告訴我們中小企業能夠對於未來整體這個美元經濟的這個風險性以及美國現在在重塑 |
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所謂的全球的貿易系統那這個部分是不是能夠也一併的告訴中小企業讓廠商有因應的能力以及對於下一波的這有可能的風險我們也能夠事先的控管 |
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報告委員 我大概可以跟業界說的是我們的匯率 台幣匯率長期以來是呈現穩定的趨勢那國家的經濟的體質本質上是健全的所以在這個方面讓它繼續呈現穩定的趨勢因為我們應該可以看得到 |
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我只能說這樣子我並沒有一句話就說台幣要不要這個我也不是連總裁都沒辦法說我當然要請總裁說這個你可能也沒辦法講總裁也沒辦法講總裁可能要拿出最大的努力來謝謝大家謝謝謝謝委員的支持謝謝謝謝謝委員謝謝 |