| IVOD_ID |
160122 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160122 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-11 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
院會-11-3-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
院會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-11T14:46:11+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-11T15:01:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:42 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/612fb6649aede2357ea16320aecd19b54ee85e61fece82c24aafdbe7f0d479b9f8672e411591f1865ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
14:46:11 - 15:01:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-11T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
第11屆第3會期第7次會議（事由：一、覆議案之處理事項（4月11日上午）。二、行政院院長提出針對美國關稅政策因應作為專案報告並備質詢（4月11日下午）。三、對行政院院長提出施政方針及施政報告繼續質詢（4月15日）。四、4月11日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。） |
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好謝謝院長有請卓院長麻煩請卓院長備選那外交部林部長麻煩請外交部備選部委好 |
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院長好所有內閣團隊大家這段時間都辛苦了美國川普總統說的要Make American Great Again我今天要破題我們也要把握這個歷史的挑戰它同時也是一個機會Make Taiwan Stronger在最壞的時代我們要做出最好的因應下葉那我想這一波的美國關稅 |
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啟動的全球衝擊呢要有清楚的定義要傳達正確的訊息否則很容易被亂帶風向讓以美論一炒再炒所以我要問一下院長美國的對等關稅的宣布就等同於台美關係觸礁了嗎 |
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我認為並非如此台美關係近年來持續的發展基於地緣政治的需求 基於經濟安全的需要而美國這次的對等關稅他是因為要解決自己內部國家的這個貿易赤字減少貿易的逆差也要當 |
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透過排除非關稅貿易障礙以及讓美國再工業化的多項的目的而且他是對所有的國家是一套公式一個計算一個標準一個結果所以我說 |
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不要把它等同於是台美關係的惡化或是觸礁川普就如您所說的他是為了他內部的發展需求他對全球180個國家都發布了這樣子的關稅的新的做法所以no one is outsider不是針對台灣請在野黨不要再炒作以美論了第二個我們要清楚定義的議題是 |
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這場對等關稅的大戰是國難嗎這兩個字當然是沉重但對國家來講可能也是空前的一個變局但是這個變局不是單單發生在台灣而是全世界你看這一周的股市當國際的股市在變化全球無一幸免 |
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所以我要定義喔如果台灣社會沒有足夠的經濟韌性台灣沒有底氣或者是政府沒有準備 |
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然後更重要的如果在野黨毫不忠誠這三者俱足這恐怕才是真正的國難所以負責任的執政黨我們努力做到但是忠誠的在野黨很遺憾台灣現在沒有看到下一頁 |
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在野党毫不忠诚,有立委说要罢免川普申请释宪,这是罗志强。徐宇珍说终止大罢免,而且要启动对美国的报复。傅昆奇总召说台积电、联电、赴美投资先来立法院报告,又是利润最大。 |
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趙少康他甚至說又繼續擁抱中國要求台灣政府停止一切對美國的投資要完全開放中國的市場甚至北北基桃的四個首長把北北基桃四個縣市當作Costco的分部 |
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說要來輪流舉辦美國商品的採購會在下夜更甚至在昨天晚上朱立倫主席呢把對等關稅的這個重要的戰場當作自己連任黨主席的擂台了我必須這樣說他要求所有的國民黨的縣市首長大家聚在一起聚會其實是為自己參選黨主席連任黨主席繼續來做一個舞台罷了喔 |
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那國民黨斷出什麼了不得的方案呢並沒有他們重回一中市場的老路所以網路上的一句金句啊選對的人走對的路選錯的人呢關稅已經不是125囉關稅145 |
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所以在野黨昨天的四大聲明要兩千億的紓困要廣發一萬元的現金要鼓勵陸客來台要召開國事會議我要說陸客陸資成了國民黨的萬年公事撒錢發錢成了國民黨的萬用要單你們診斷一下這樣子的做法 |
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有效合理嗎?院長簡短跟委員報告美國發布對等關稅我們當然有做適度的調整但是我們從去年行政院經濟發展委員會之後成立的經濟外交工作小組副院長以及加農部長都是其中重要成員之後又成為成立的台美經貿的專案小組那我們對這樣的一個發展的策略我們是長久一致性的所以我剛剛也答覆過這個提出聲明當中對的願意共同來討論但是 |
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所以國家的財政跟人們的需求我們還是要放在第一位那至於說經濟外交工作小組對我們來講是一個非常新的視野好我稍後讓部長針對談判的部分讓您來發表所以說國民黨如果持續的擁抱一中市場繼續走回頭路的話那實在是害慘台灣而不是愛台灣更嚴重的呢下一個 |
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這個離島建設條例,陳玉珍委員提案,22個國民黨立委連署支持的,它不折不扣就是一個替中國洗產地的條例。當我們努力在救火,國民黨沒有幫忙滅火,它甚至是幫忙添柴火、放火。 |
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院長你要說一下這樣子的一個條例如果在立法院又被強行通過而且沒有討論的機會現在不討論的機會成為我們韓國瑜院長這個惡例都變成慣例我怕以後沒有機會讓你發表您現在說清楚這樣一個離島建設條例是不是就是公然替中國洗產地人流物流金流就是這樣堂而皇之的來陷台灣於不義來入侵台灣來 院長 |
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中央政府對離島的建設跟所有離島國人的福利一向都不落後的而且我們會包括用水方面包括用電方面包括交通方面我們極力也在維護但是我們注重的是怎麼樣讓離島身處前線但是必須是安全的國防那您認為這個條例是不是涉及了替中國洗產地 |
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過去的發展 如果照過去的條例內容會讓中資、陸資進到離島來 而且進行重大建設這個是萬萬死不得 我說我們會研訪那如果未來涉及棲產地這又是在這次全世界對等關稅貿易當中美國很在意的違規轉運等等所以在野黨沒有幫忙滅火 還要讓台灣飛而撲火 |
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民進黨團主張離島建設條例要撤案這種賣台毀國的條例要撤案你們支不支持 |
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491.283 |
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512.325 |
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我們站行政立場我們當然願意支持在立法院裡面大家極力力爭為保障國家安全經濟安全來做努力所以不合理的條例我們應當未雨綢繆要先擋下來就擋下來請國民黨撤回離島建設條例下一頁好 880億喔 |
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515.134 |
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533.051 |
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國民黨說可加碼我們很早就說了只要能夠針對產業的需求受衝擊的狀況更清楚的來研判之後要加碼就加碼請朝野支持謝謝國民黨那我想問一下什麼時候有這樣子的特別條例跟特別預算提出的時程 |
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照原來沒有宣布90天暫緩的情況之下在昨天的行政院會已經做針對881支持方案做了報告原計劃是在下個禮拜希望能夠用以特別條例來經過行政院的院會那現在我們觀察這幾天還在變化還在變化所以我跟 |
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554.073 |
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573.129 |
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我們的政委副院長在思考是不是能夠多一個禮拜的時間來思考外界的變化讓特別條例內容更為完整我們可以更從容因為擁有了90天的黃金期那下一頁國民黨所說刪掉的總預算1439億可以拿來當紓困的救命資源 |
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黃國昌也不甘寂寞這是藍白河共赴國難藍白河而且都說同一套話術也是同一套騙術傅昆奇說砍掉的1439億可以來紓困黃國昌說砍掉的2000多億是舊產業的即時雨兩個人的數字還都不攏就證明了砍預算亂砍連在野黨的兩大黨別人都說不清楚哪個數字是對的 |
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我是非常痛恨這種把預算當作無軌搬運的這種毫無預算嘗試還當在野黨的黨鞭我想問一下院長國民黨可以讓死人都復活去連署這硬要摘掉 |
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646.986 |
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但是立法院可以讓砍掉的預算重新被致用挪用嗎就您的長期以來擔任立委也擔任行政部門現在擔任院長這不可能審查預算是一項非常神聖嚴謹的問題審查預算刪除的預算並不是從左邊口袋放到右邊口袋也不是從我的口袋放到抽屜裡面去不是這樣子的如果可以這樣做的話那我們就可以挪到其他去使用整個預算法組織法不是這樣子的 |
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647.566 |
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669.993 |
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所以黃國昌、傅坤琪、藍白的委員們行行好不要把國家當作全民當作三歲小孩再騙把自己明明是砍國家預算的大惡人現在搖身一變要搶當紓困的大善人不要再騙了那我問一下接著也要追問那如果提特別條例請問這個880億或是880億plus請問他的裁員可能是什麼 |
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先要有一個特別條例在編定這個特別預算特別預算的裁員只有兩個一個就是稅計證據 一個就是舉債我們當然在這個合法的 |
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方式裡面去籌組相關應的這個預算所以就是善用稅計剩餘好好利用稅計剩餘來國家需要的眼前迫切的需要把稅計剩餘拿來編列作為這個特別條例跟特別預算我非常支持而不是把稅計剩餘拿去普發現金一人一萬就2300億沒有了 |
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我想國家當前的需要我們認為我們把稅率剩餘用在這個產業的支持方案我相信人民會支持好那下一頁是要請教林部長不好意思讓你等了比較久您昨天已經說了台美的關稅談判台灣已經掛上號Good News那總統今天在中部會見產業座談他也更進一步的說台灣是Priority中的Priority是第一批的談判名單您可以具體的來回應嗎 |
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是 報告委員在川普4月2日所謂解放日公布了對等關稅我們總統就在4月6號他具體的以8分鐘時間向世人提出了我們對應的方案這裡面有五大的政策 |
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其實這個是非常關鍵的因為美方就收到這個訊息我們提方案而且美方收到了這個左院長所召集的我們不管經濟外交小組的會議或政府院長他召集台美經貿專案的小組其實都已經把它分類所以不只是只有關稅這裡面包括跟涉及貿易有關的當然包括有一些是非關稅貿易的障礙有一些是貿易的障礙 |
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也包括投資採購像採購你看也包括我們包括這個除了軍購以外也包括農工產品也包括我們這個投資的包括能源特別這些公策都不是突然間這都是長期我們就已經做好準備也打算要做的事所以其實美方有感受到我們總統所提出來很完整的對應的政策 |
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所以他們其實是肯定而且是覺得很欣賞我們這種做法所以我們可能還在前段班越南也提到說他們可能要從不好意思我時間有限所以部長我們很可能在前段班我們可以這樣樂觀期待對那我再補充一下就是在昨天總統在布倫伯格更完整的發表投書之後他更強調深化台美經貿合作所以不只是要談關稅我們要談台美全面性的合作 |
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所以確實現在已經雙方面有溝通的管道那也就議題在做一些對應所以隨時都在進行當中所以簡言之我們提出了具體的方案而這個方案不只是短期的是長期的有利於台灣利益也有利於美國利益然後美國收到了這個方案他們也高度的稱許所以讓我們可以更有底氣更有信心的說我們可能可以 |
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名列談判的前段班,我們繼續加油,但是戒慎恐懼,來下一頁。所以這是丘吉爾說的一句話,Never let a good crisis go to waste,我們就要讓危機變成轉機。這也是總統說的,利用地緣政治的變動步步為夷,轉為維安。來,我看最後。 |
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這個剛剛因為時間不夠請看細頓2.0這一頁也就是說這是一個長城的總統說台灣的經濟從西進南向東拓到北合以及我們要打造全球半導體民主供應鏈的夥伴創意讓台灣加一是台灣加美國加強跟美國的合作我們更要有強的底氣跟信心跟野心全球plus one |
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那個plus one就是全球plus Taiwan這是我們長城的布局所以我最重要說對台灣有信心對政府要信賴也拜託在野黨要忠誠我們能夠轉危為安也會長治久安好 |