| IVOD_ID |
160111 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160111 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-8 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
8 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T12:17:57+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T12:25:52+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:55 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc97129401886ea0494c48f11452c3877738ca1a30f584bceeba99a60a4cfa178be0a15ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
李坤城 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:17:57 - 12:25:52 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第8次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長、農業部部長及財政部首長就「因應美國關税政策以維持我國農漁畜業及關鍵產業競爭力之協助措施」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 那我們是不是請這個 能源部陳部長來 請陳部長部長好 這個美國的關稅 對台灣的關稅本來是32%今天早上一早這個接到消息變成10%那部長是哪時候知道這個訊息的 |
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我大概六點的時候我知道它是凌晨發布的但是我在凌晨之前就先睡了我是早上醒來的時候知道那看到這個新聞你感受心情怎麼樣我第一個時間覺得說我們有更多的時間爭取了一些更多的時間能夠在產業上面來做有效的溝通然後去做針對現在目前的政策做滾動的一個檢討的一個機會 |
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那現在這個關稅這部分的話這個美國他是有點名有一些這個非關稅的一些障礙那其實有一些是跟農業部稅有相關的那之前有點名就是說那包含這個稻米、基改等作物包含這個美豬美牛等等那請問一下在接下來這個談判的這個90天還有一個緩衝期那農業部這方面要怎麼樣做因應我想 |
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我們一定會配合整個談判小組的一個談判策略不過從農業部的立場而且談判小組也充分的已經體認認知到其實農業的產業跟其他的工業產業它有它的特殊性最主要是它具有肩負糧食安全的一個非常重要的一個責任 |
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所以在這個前提之下我們在做後續的跟美方做溝通跟談判的過程中一定會維持我們產業穩定的發展還有農民的權益為前提所以針對現在目前已經設定比較高的那個關稅的情況之下我們會盡量的去維持但是雙方之間如果是一個互補的 |
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這些產品的話我們可以考慮做某種程度的調整但是調整也不是一次到位而是像有一些階段性的我們會朝這個方向去努力因為我們的關稅就農業產品來講的確是比較高所以說我是比較擔心說在談判的過程當中會不會影響到我們農民的權益 |
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對 所以我想我們會就是針對台灣產業已經有一個發展的我們會盡量會守護著這樣的一個產業的一個強調那美國進來的現在目前最大宗的還是黃小玉他們所在乎的那黃小玉本身的關稅就是零了 |
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他關稅就是零了所以基本上是沒有什麼影響他可能影響的就是說我們現在有的包括媒體所講的那個豬跟雞的部分那這個部分其實我們產業一定有一個產業鏈在那邊的那我想我們一定會守護我們的產業維持我們產業永續發展為前提去跟美方去談有哪一些是農業部認為說在談判過程當中不能夠退讓的 |
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我想不能夠推斷我剛才所提到的就是說我們目前對產業可能衝擊性比較高的這些產業那這個產業對糧食安全有影響的我們盡量會跟美方去做一個說明每一個國家它的農產品它都有不同的保護性的一個措施在那邊 |
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對 我想整個關稅我們會配合談判小組去談那至於說細節的部分我想我現在變在這邊去說明哪一些是可以處理 哪一些是不可以處理的OK 好 謝謝部長接下來我們請經濟部的次長好 請次長 |
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委員好 市長請教一下那雖然像台灣現在關稅是90天裡面是降成10%嘛那中國他是增加他是這個104現在變成125啦那當然我們還有台商在中國雖然已經這個第一次川普執政的時候已經陸陸續續的回到台灣是回到東南亞了那這樣子對於台商的影響你們有評估到嗎因為接下來川普對於中國的這個壓力應該會越來越大 |
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我們台灣的廠商在全球佈局它裡面這幾年我們觀察到一個狀況就是2020年的時候當時常駐在中國的台灣人大概有100萬人但是這個數量在減少 |
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有一些是回台灣投資有一些是到其他的地方去佈局所以我們積極的推動三大投資方案我們也統計到上個月月底為止台商回台投資的部分已經超過1.3兆那我們持續的在做這個部分希望說看看可不可以擴大對台商的這個協助對 |
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因為現在還是有財商留在那裡嘛那因為現在美國對中國的課稅是高達125%有可能會再增加如果這個中國還在這個奉陪到底的話那我是說問台商的影響那我們應該怎麼做勒 |
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我們第一個持續的透過我們跟產業界的座談或是工協會的座談收集到他們的意見然後把這個相關的意見給這個海基會透過他做必要的一個協助那除此之外的話持續關懷台商因為台商都他都有一些台商的協會的這個部分這個部分也是我們可以收集資料的一個最重要的一個來源 |
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我的意思是說在川普在2016第一次執政的時候因為他對中國他把他視成是一個敵對的國家經濟上面或是國防上面對他有影響所以那一次也間接造成這個我們產業回到我們台灣然後這一個也那我們也希望說有那個南向政策那我現在的意思是說那川普現在在執政了那一樣施加這麼大的壓力給中國那是不是有可能再一次促成這個在中國的這些台商再回來台灣或是說這個因為東南亞現在 |
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這個課的關稅也很高那是不是有這個計畫讓台商再回流不是只有說去關懷他們或是說這個問他們有什麼樣的問題或是說類似這種產業結構再變動的一個比較大的一個架構你們有沒有去想到這個當然有我剛剛講三大投資方案其中台商回流的部分那透過我們跟院裡面院裡面已經有合訂延長這個計畫那我們希望擴大辦理那 |
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我們審視過去台商回台包括台灣的這個產業的這個轉型的這個過程裡面我們發現說即便是相當傳統的產業他可以因為科技的運用包括數位的轉型讓他的產品的質量素質提高 |
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所以在這一次我們所提到的880億元的這個規劃裡面有一個研發轉型的部分那研發轉型的部分當然我們對中小企業我們會來與協助除了中小企業之外產業聯盟也可以啊以大代小也都可以這個都是在我們的規劃方案裡面 |
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因為我初看那個計畫啦,我想說那個是對於台灣的產業好像是這個協助的地方比較多,好像比較少是說是在中國的台商或是其他地方的台商回來的這方面的協助啦 |
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當然我們希望說他先回來台灣投資我們希望我們更留台灣嘛所以我們除了台商回台投資我們優化我們的投資的環境這是政府應該去做的一個事情好 謝謝市長 謝謝主席 |