| IVOD_ID |
160106 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/160106 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-10 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-10T11:59:39+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-10T12:12:32+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:53 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/127fafa562dc9712d8eba710f67de06a39fb4699fde532611a30f584bceeba999ece5cc56f5d9c585ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:59:39 - 12:12:32 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-10T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請中央銀行楊總裁金龍、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、行政院主計總處陳主計長淑姿、財政部莊部長翠雲、經濟部郭部長智輝、農業部陳部長駿季就「川普對等關稅政策實施，對我國股匯市、經濟成長、物價、房市等項所造成之衝擊與因應措施」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、審查「納稅者權利保護法」4案：
(一)本院委員賴士葆等22人擬具「納稅者權利保護法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二)本院委員羅廷瑋等18人擬具「納稅者權利保護法第四條條文修正草案」案。
(三)本院委員林思銘等20人擬具「納稅者權利保護法第七條及第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
(四)本院委員林思銘等18人擬具「納稅者權利保護法第二十一條條文修正草案」案。
三、審查「加值型及非加值型營業稅法」9案：
(一) 本院委員鍾佳濱等18人、委員鍾佳濱等23人、委員郭國文等17人、委員吳沛憶等18人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法部分條文修正草案」等4案。【本院委員吳沛憶等18人提案如經院會復議，則不予審查】
(二) 本院委員陳超明等18人、委員邱志偉等16人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第八條條文修正草案」等2案。
(三) 本院委員賴士葆等25人、委員顏寬恒等16人分別擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第十三條條文修正草案」等2案。
(四) 本院委員賴士葆等22人擬具「加值型及非加值型營業稅法第五十八條條文修正草案」案。） |
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臺灣政經教育所林董事長林董事長主計總處主計長主計長陳任部長要不要來一下陳任部長也一起來一下好了這都很重要的部會那我想經濟部麻煩一下經濟部董事長那個大家一起來面對國難大家要 |
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團結在一起不要再搞什麼大罷免了全世界遇到這個事情大家都已經很緊張每天都可能忐忑不安總裁啊 你這幾天睡得怎麼樣我還好啊惱心在哉我們密切注意情況的發展你要穩住啊有啊 穩住啊 |
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總裁啊 為什麼美國的公債啊 十年期的公債 殖利率 它飆新高沒有 新高啊 我剛剛提供的一個數據就是說它前一陣子才 還沒有實施這個之前 它都到4.9那後來呢 它就慢慢的下來 下來到3.998的樣子 |
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但是最近呢是上升到4.332那如果說從4%上升到4.332這個很高嗎那如果說我們跟這個4.98來比較的話4.33還算低啊所以你對美元未來在川普之後的新世界因為坦白講那個上上下下那 |
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我們也不曉得到底怎麼辦更何況是一般的中小企業現在感覺就是說我們各部位的重要的財經單位對不對就川普很重要 重不重要川普是 他很重要沒有錯現在變成我們在屋簷下不得不低頭但是也沒關係 |
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順著川普走你想要平安健康才會有啊所以總裁你要跟他 |
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要有一定的溝通嘛你跟他熟不熟當然不熟啦不熟那彭懷南彭總裁彭總裁以前是直接就對上的他有那個熱線不是川普就以前的總統他們的內委這個我就不曉得 |
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可是你現在外匯存底你買了多少的美國公債我就說我們會有八成以上啊多少?大概美金是多少?八成以上你覺得說用五千七百億乘上百分之八十有的四千多億美元其實四千多億美元你是有話語權的啊如果把我們逼緊了我們沒路可去的 |
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老娘跟你拼了我把所有的這個公債通通考慮贖回有沒有這個可能我想這個就是說這個就是有一點情緒的一個反應情緒的對這是一個情緒的反應我總覺得中央銀行要穩定市場我們是密切的關注市場的一個發展然後做妥善的因應 |
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我希望說在談判的時候央行可以成為談判代表的一個定心神針啊我覺得是籌碼啊台積電已經沒了嘛你至少還有這些籌碼我發現好像現在持有美國公債最多的是哪一個國家應該是日本跟中國大陸都持有很大很多啦 |
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日本配合度很高那中國大陸他現在持有的美國公債有多少這個我大概不曉得待會兒我再告訴你好了幾兆他也持的蠻多的啦所以這個世界的當然實力為王啦那兩邊這樣吵來吵去假設未來美元的過去傳統崇高的地位不見了 |
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中國大陸他全部贖回那會造成什麼樣的情況 |
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這個委員所講的是一個假設性的議題你要沙盤推演啊你這個是假設性的議題都應該要做一個完整的沙盤推演禮拜一他說給我們課32%的關稅總裁你有料到說他突然說那這些70幾個關要先停止90天的寬鬆期再慢慢談這一點你有想到嗎 |
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沒有想到啊所以我們大家要不要大罷免了趕快回歸把所有的108套劇本包括金管會包括財政部我請教那個部長莊部長 |
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那未來我們關稅你的想法是怎麼樣他如果調高我們可以跟著調高嗎對等還是我們就是卑躬屈膝我們就隨便就配合他就好不是卑躬屈膝我覺得我們這個部分行政院的有經貿工作小組也有談判的團隊會去跟川普那邊做協商 |
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跟川普的誰?川普政府的誰?我覺得這個部分當然我們的國安跟外交團隊會在那邊現在我們的談判代表財政部會不會去?目前那個團隊裡面會有政府院長領軍政府院長會去?領軍他會去那財政部有沒有一起參加?財政部一直在對相關有關財政部的業務的部分我們都有提供相關的資料給談判的團隊那你派誰去? |
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410.304 |
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妳派誰去目前來說還沒有要求財政部派員而且我們其實在駐美那邊駐美代表處也有我們官務的同仁在那邊經濟組裡面工作妳在美國的關係最重要我們現在最重要的關係是跟誰我們最重要的關係那現在當然面對川普這個關稅的一個措施你們有沒有找Washington DC那邊的一些Lobby的單位來互動一下 |
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431.63 |
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這個部分我相信他們都非常努力的在進行他們是誰包含我們的駐美代表處或者我們在那邊的國安團隊等等對 外交團隊你們在沙盤推演在模擬議題的時候你們要看看有沒有管道 |
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據我知啦 我所知啦川普總統的周圍以前他發言的人很近周圍他很信任的人最近會來台灣啊你們應該跟他看能不能連線上起碼講講好話吧是不是 |
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477.786 |
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謝謝委員的一個支持啦所以希望說在國難當頭這個時間部長你答不答應全力來為民把關好好來爭取最好的應對方式政府當然是秉持這樣的一個立場那你最近會不會去參與大罷免的活動我從來都沒有參與大罷免的活動啊 |
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489.7 |
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楊總裁你會去參與所謂的應該是沒有沒有是很好的莊部長沒有也很好再來請金管會主委 |
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524.078 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
其實你是台灣的兩條金龍之一楊金龍、彭金龍本來是希望說能擋得住因為今年的蛇年是雙頭蛇雙頭蛇很兇的從過年初的時候有一些人在講希望說你們兩隻大龍可以壓住雙頭蛇小龍那主委這幾天你的心情怎麼樣 |
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| transcript.whisperx[22].end |
549.808 |
| transcript.whisperx[22].text |
剛剛也有人問到我們就平常心因為儘管會面對這個資本市場管理波動本來就是我們每天都要面對的事情你平常心可以啊可是說有融資斷頭戶啊什麼時候會萬箭齊發我想今天其實我們每天都有監控剛剛也有人提到我們都非常關心這個問題因為影響到很多散戶投資人的一些的權益莊部長請回 |
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| transcript.whisperx[23].end |
567.963 |
| transcript.whisperx[23].text |
是那這部分我們當然像我們在這個上個禮拜天我們第一個的措施就是針對這些可能未來的所謂的融資追繳沒辦法去補繳的這些投資人做一些一些動作 |
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568.723 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].end |
589.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[24].text |
目前的情況如果股市跌到17000多點的時候我們現在的維持率大概是146今天應該會很大不同就是我們看到昨天跟前天大概就是增加了2%可是相對的來講今天反彈上來會不會是最終的逃民險 |
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608.381 |
| transcript.whisperx[25].text |
這個當然每個人我們儘管會不會對這個市場做什麼預判啦這完全投資人自己的決定所以市場要有量有量代表多空雙方自己有自己的判斷我想這是最重要的同志會 美國川普給我們90天的寬限期在談那談的情況會有幾種 |
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611.087 |
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614.032 |
| transcript.whisperx[26].text |
如果90天又恢復說心情不大好還是要課你32%的關稅 |
| transcript.whisperx[27].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[27].end |
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| transcript.whisperx[27].text |
金管會怎麼辦我想齁 這個我們對各種的情況包括這個三十二這件事情我們在這個星期一已經有有所反應了嘛我想這部分接下來本來這個剛剛成都總裁講的本來這個東西那個uncertainty本來就一直都存在那我們想說我們過去在金管會處理這個類似這個金融上面的波動特別是股市的波動我們有很多很多的相對應的方法來穩定市場對 上次喔 |
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682.521 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
在這邊質詢的時候其實官員的回答是答錯了我說這個關稅的問題會不會造成國內中小企業上市櫃公司重大的影響你們查查看我們這個都有錄音的你們的回答是說影響不大經過這個詢答大概會有22間左右的上市櫃公司可能會有一些影響其他影響不大 |
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685.727 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].end |
710.952 |
| transcript.whisperx[29].text |
那個回答是錯誤的沒有 那是我們那個其實當時的是我們交易所去做調查上市櫃公司針對那幾個被點名的國家我們在那邊的一些的出口跟相對的數字他們的回應說有22家對他們影響是比較明顯的可是你看看第一天你說影響不大全部都跌停在你的任內已經創了8個紀錄 |
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713.802 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].end |
735.14 |
| transcript.whisperx[30].text |
一天跌幅幾千點?2600點創下有史以來的紀錄我想這全世界都面對到相同的問題啊所以主委你要小心啊未來再過90天以後怎麼辦?請你們做好準備我們一定是全力準備大罷免你會不會去搞大罷免當然不會不會好謝謝那請主席講 |
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739.68 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].end |
763.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[31].text |
那主席長我們對這中小企業的應變啊你們要做最好的準備800多億是杯水車薪不夠的啊你能不能提高一點做準備我們先這是第一回合啦將來看情況來講第一回合我們的表現啊大家是很失望的啊你第二回合你要強一點啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[32].end |
768.458 |
| transcript.whisperx[32].text |
那最後問 大罷免你會不會去參與不會 |