| IVOD_ID |
159983 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159983 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T11:26:08+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T11:41:09+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:15:01 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdce7c40943eab58b1b5b899a01abdeb36332eb6e21b32d8c6beeef6df7d42f6b4155ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳雪生 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:26:08 - 11:41:09 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：一、邀請交通部部長陳世凱就「如何推動國際旅客來台觀光」及「提升國際機場量能與服務品質及增闢國際線航點航班之作為」進行專題報告，並備質詢。
二、處理113年度中央政府總預算附屬單位預算關於交通部主管預算凍結案計48案。
三、審查人民請願文書共12案。
【報告事項第(十二)案及第(十八)案如經院會復議，則不予處理】
【4月9日及10日二天一次會】） |
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2023年5月1號疫情解封以後,國人出國旅遊人數大增 |
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但是國際旅遊的旅客來台的,那麼卻沒有達到我們預期以致國內旅遊的市場大幅的衰退那麼衰退的程度由於離島最危險住,我們金門、滿洲、澎湖那麼赴離島旅遊的人數也大幅的衰減那麼國旅與衰減、衰退、離島旅遊崩壞 |
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離島的居民生計我們就受到影響因為我們以觀光立憲離島的觀光相關產業現在只有吃老本吃老本硬撐到現在那麼已經面臨到民宿關閉餐廳要歇業的困境但隨著國際旅遊形態的改變單一只是做官網那是不夠的現在官網已經沒人看了 |
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現在形態已經改變了,那麼希望能夠深化馬祖景區,推動各鄉觀光的一個廊帶以吸引更多的觀光客到離島去旅遊,這比較重要本身希望交通部及觀光署 |
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對離島地區預租更多的經費,我希望能夠三年有15億的經費,能夠深化離島的景區。對於旅遊的行銷,現在的網路已經不負期待了,都是社群、媒體。那麼也請公安署督促我們 |
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我們風鈴管理處或是公安署這邊對離島這些景點能夠多做一些宣傳我看電視上常常有一些宣傳但是很少講到馬祖、金門金門當然會比較多一點離島旅宿業者原本希望開放鹿團來但鹿團來問題很多 |
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縣長、議長跟我,我們常常去福建我們去張朗觀光客,當然我們也有我們的原因我們的民宿滿貴的,團費大概一萬出頭那麼他們有的就跑到韓國啦,比較便宜的地方去玩去了所以然後再加上我們,你看比如說我們媽祖,媽祖有個團要來 |
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那我們內政部說要拿那個財報財報、會計報告我們那個廟哪有這個東西啊?沒有嘛那體育團體要來要送到體育署去去審查審查又不通過裡面有一些官方的人又不准他來所以他來有什麼關係呢?到馬祖來馬祖要被吃掉的話 |
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如果被統戰的話,早就被統戰走了所以有一些事情不要把它邊緣化昨天有一個陳姓的一個人到馬祖去陳雪真是中共的走狗 |
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我是他走狗嗎?是不是亂講話說我短命什麼的那你這種罷免的操作不服其擔所以被老闆罵老闆已經通通站出來罵罵完以後落荒而逃今天已經回來了我是說在部長你這邊協調相關部門能不能人家要來你讓他來嘛我們去弄了老半天 |
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然後你們那邊又去阻擋,像路克開放團,開放團他們說要什麼?說小兩會,我那天回來跟周處長講過小兩會他們是同意開的,他們同意開小兩會,不是不同意,因為小兩會是次團體那我們很像又在擋,我們這邊又把他叫停 |
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所以陸克萊沒有問題啊?如果他們願意透過小兩會我們非常歡迎,不會喊停他們願意啊?我們也很願意但你們主動去談嘛,人家已經四處在意了,很像台灣還在罵我們其實有對對岸表達,小兩會之間的會議希望能夠開啟部長我問的問題,我看你回答我一下好不好?他們沒有給我們回應 |
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我要問對離島觀光的事情加強,比如像慢跑活動慢晨,你們說慢晨的話全國都有,那換個名稱是不是? |
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機制啟動,慢乘、慢跑或是其他的你能夠做的,我們北海看到可以充分利用你可以找一些拉小提琴的在我們北海看到你們去拉小提琴,真的望春風那個拉的如此如此我有去聽過,真的非常好你聽過嗎?我去聽過非常好現在很多街頭的藝人有登記的,你可以跟他訂 |
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一個月比如說去個四趟 去個十趟一趟補助他那個什麼旅遊費一萬塊他都願意去他都願意去喔願意去的話就一個月只要花個十萬塊一年不過花一百二十萬像這種事情觀光署風景管理處都可以去做的嘛 |
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是不是巡迴街頭做一些藝人的表演也不錯也不一定整天都待在那個坑道裡面是不是是你在外面街頭也可以表演住信什麼等等部長你覺得呢我覺得馬祖的整體觀光環境非常好值得推廣那我們也會來努力委員其實也一直都在交代跟指導很多的工作我們其實我聽觀光組在說也都蠻配合 |
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部長知道我是不敢啦,因為畢竟你們真的是專業啦所以我也期待交通部還有州署長這邊好不好對馬祖這個部分多努力一下好不好因為真的很慘,網路上都罵翻了我也跟我們的鄉親報告可是很像最近訂房率很像不錯 |
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五到八月份慢慢就上來了五到八月份狀況很像還不錯,所以有些人說訂不到房但是真的還是加油,五月以前真的很糟糕那我也跟鄉親報告,這全世界的我們全國性的,尤其大陸旅客不來,我們現在歡迎不歡迎大陸旅客來?很歡迎一直都歡迎,只是小兩會的溝通他們一直不願意接受你不要去擋嘛沒有擋,只是他們不願意開始談 |
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大家不要吵架嘛你們吵吵鬧鬧在那邊你言我語的都沒有講好話自然把氣氛就搞壞了嘛氣氛搞壞怎麼來的是不是所以福州那邊我不是跟通匪幹什麼沒有這個回事喔而是說希望我們藉著 |
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藉著金門馬祖,能夠把兩岸的一些問題,我們希望和平,希望能夠緩和好不好好那周市長你請回好不好 |
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我接下來要詢問的是北竿機場擴建的期程北竿機場的擴建已經啟動了因為地區部分有心人士這個誤用數據那麼做了一些錯誤的訊息傳達給鄉親我希望部長對本席能夠 |
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很清楚的報告北竿機場新建的騎乘到底需要多少時間當然今天如果講得不夠完整的話我們等駿馬祖交通考察的時候我們來共同面對鄉親他們提出的疑問我們來給他做解答 |
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這裡面北竿機場的擴建,進行跑道公營,這個工程很像先由港務公司來承包做一些維提、維提等等這些作業這裡面工程大概幾乎佔了機場的三分之二還有做沉箱什麼的那2024年底正式 |
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施工的澳門機場,他也是邊坐邊走主席你請坐好不好,我再給我兩分鐘,謝謝,很快我們也可以根據澳門機場的新建的狀況你可以邊坐邊走嘛,是不是既然有這些先例,本市也希望交通部能夠一力對北竿機場跑道的擴建工程 |
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降低施工率,對北竿的影響盡量能夠降低,這一點你先回答我好不好?謝謝報告委員,我們在細部設計的時候會盡量把那個影響的部分降低,您今天在提醒何局長先回答我一下何局長,就你所知的部分回答我一下好不好? |
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有關這個就是說在違體造地期間包含未來的施工期間大概之前都一直在講七年多的時間那本來是說我們是用最保守的方式來說會關廠嘛那可是未來在細設的時候就是在港公司這個建造標細設的時候我們會來考慮未來營運期間的董事長你也幫忙一下好不好 |
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幫忙一下,儘量晚上施工,夜間施工,不影響飛航的時間好不好 |
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目前我們在準備那個前置作業在準備備標那備標以後找到選商了以後因為你們在施工的時候就不影響飛行的安全嘛所有的情況我們都會納入考量那麼大概民航局的部分就是跑到撲滅嘛是不是撲滅的時間應該一兩年就完工了所以盡量朝著兩年的時間去走好不好那董事長你請回另外我想請問一下局長 |
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高雄到馬祖的航線6月6號啟航我上次在總諮詢的時候曾經提出來有哪個縣市要用補貼的政策來處理它既然是固定的航線,而且是新開的航線我希望交通部這邊 |
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你不要限制我來出錢嘛好不好剩下的問題我也跟部長報告過,部長也承諾啊可是之前像是縣政府有說他們要補貼嘛目前現在他是定期航線目前短的時間,限制我補貼一些沒關係但是你們這邊要去檢討了好不好跟你們一些時間去檢討我們希望他的運量能夠拉起來當然當然那票價確定了沒有 |
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票價已經核定了票價已經核定了嘛那你也督導那個華信趕快報來好不好因為我們有一些行程要安排還有就是北竿北竿航空站的停車場目前一共是81加3有81個是81個位置是樓下的停車場3個位置是遊覽車的嘛84個目前固定停車的大概只有一成五只有8部車子停在裡面 |
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那聆聽大概只有個為數我之前你們要求說三個月滾動式檢討因為當然有審計部審計的問題在裡面審計的問題可能你們也會面臨檢討那現在原來講說三個月調整到兩個月滾動式檢討局長我拜託是不是能夠一個月現在就開始滾動檢討因為你那邊變成一個蚊子館 |
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我想跟委員報告我想蓋的北竿機場應該不是要讓它變成文字館我們還是會希望北竿的現在已經是啦那現在大概因為剛開始嘛那現在大概是一層多那目前來講我們還是會跟縣府再來一起合作啦看看如何來鼓勵鄉親不然你趕快開會嘛好不好 |
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對那至於滾動檢討部分我們再觀察一下你們能不能責成這個民營航空站趕快去縣政府討論然後對民眾還是共同來討論一下因為現在月租一千二嘛其實現在訂的價格大概已經打折了他們原來縣政府那個是山龍那邊停車場是六百啦 |
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你看老闆一車子不停進去,滿街還是車子我們的停車位可惜了,我想民防局也不是要賺錢嘛,是不是你起碼收一點租金,維持清潔費就可以了好不好好,何市長你請回,最後一個就是馬祖大橋 |
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我那一種事情對院長回答我真的很不滿意你怎麼英國的商人來可以推算出來需要四百多億、三百八十七億這個數字哪裡來的你聽聽世襲的說法好不好我想說英商我也不便去推翻他他什麼都沒有他只是根據世襲的 |
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這個結構設計,綜合計畫的設計,然後算出來,那世襲那是假的嗎?你叫世襲去算嘛,算一下是不是跟行政院再報告一下?不然院長他不是很瞭解,你看我那天跟世襲在瞭解還不知道勒,連這個案子連看都沒看到,這還得了啊我們再跟世襲來瞭解好不好,我想立法委員再立法院的質詢 |
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院長一定要了認於胸,不能說連案子都沒看到你也可以追蹤嘛,因為委員在詢問啊是不是部長這點請你幫忙一下好不好好那謝謝主席耽誤你的時間,謝謝 |