| IVOD_ID |
159927 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159927 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-09 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-7 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
7 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-09T09:39:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-09T09:51:42+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:40 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/984603a5a250cdceb000e82260d5b868a0ce932bdb5123485ddd900faaa498beb3d58fd2b68507d25ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
邱志偉 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:39:02 - 09:51:42 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-09T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第7次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長及國家發展委員會主任委員就「國際經貿情勢變化，提出協助國內傳統產業及中小企業因應之對策」進行報告，並備質詢。） |
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好 謝謝主席 有請進一步 郭部長 國會 劉助委郭部長 劉助委委員長 這個碰到是前所未有的一個挑戰那當然要用非常的手段 880億就是料離從寬 玉離從嚴880億你是用特別預算 |
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是用特別預算嗎 是特別預算你要趕快編列 編列之後趕快送到立法院趕快通過那我覺得880億還不夠這個後續的延續不會說是一個月兩個月可能會延長到一兩年所以我覺得這個如果參與許可的話我覺得應該寬列寬列第一個能夠解決更多問題第二個能夠讓所有的業界都能夠安心 |
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所以我目標是應該只有兩千億你即便只有兩千億還不能完全解決問題因為受到影響所有的這個製造業所以我覺得這部分啊這個應該 這統合是由誰來統合就預算統合是由誰來統合 |
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預算局有 這個經濟部的部分是我們自己在負責那經濟部你才400多億沒有 這個是第一階段 報告委員這是第一階段我是覺得這個趕快把特別預算把它再寬列 再多一點然後最快的速度來送到立法院是 這個我們希望大院能夠支持另外 你說在六級 在幾個這個園區管理局剩馬上辦中心啊我覺得應該下放給各地方政府 |
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每一個 特別是中南部很多傳統產業他不會去找這個服務中心 他會找縣市政府日本政府啊 24%的稅率喔我們是32% 他24%他馬上成立1000個諮詢的這個窗口 1000個在全國啦 |
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我是覺得每一個這個產業都碰到問題不一樣比方說這個金屬扣件比如說鋼鐵比如說鎖工具昨天也請這個邱球會邱署長立刻跟這個金屬扣件特別是集中在高雄在岡山特別跟工會做一個比較深度的會談深度的討論了解聽聽他們的問題聽聽他們的建議然後拒絕馬上建級旅局去執行 |
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不只是金屬構建包括你今天提到很多的手工具石化、塑膠、橡膠、中基電、電線、電纜這些都有工會應該一個禮拜之內立刻啟動跟所有工會的相關的諮詢跟討論不能再等了因為你要最短時間之內了解問題你才能提出有效有效率、有效果的解決方案所以你叫那個什麼服務中心我告訴你這個好過太壞 |
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報告委員您剛所說明的這一部分我們都有在進行我們只是說對那些比較沒有參加工會的這些業者還是有很多人沒有參加工會我們要看到他所以我們請他們就是說我們直接去拜訪他們或者他們很急的可以馬上到我們馬上辦中心我們是全面在處理這些事情這兩天啊我們民意代表變成一個窗口 |
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變成窗口 然後我再把這些相關的資訊再轉傳給您這個我沒想到我的這個手機號令這麼快一電話講不完 講不完所以代表說你們的窗口還見得不夠普遍另外談判小組已經成立對不對是的談判小組 那經濟部有代表對不對國安會 談判辦然後這個學界 業界也有代表學界 業界也有代表對不對國安會也有代表 |
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代表是由行政院來處理的對啦 我這邊你的報告寫的學界業界都有代表嘛對越早去跟美國談判他這個搶到時間的先機嘛美國政府也說 如今來說好過如何嘛我們有沒有在他們的list裡面有有有 這個有有在list裡面我們是在這個前面的排我們的ranking是在前面我看媒體報導是日本跟韓南韓他們是優先來 |
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對不對那台灣呢台灣牌序在多少我們我們都實際在運作啦這個目前在談判的過程很抱歉沒有辦法在這裡跟您報告所以我要確定說我們這個談判小組已經成立了隨時可以上路對不對然後我們相關的副案都已經準備好了然後只要美國那邊有同意要跟我們談我們立刻就啟動是不是這樣子是所以我覺得這部分很怪 |
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加強對美國的這個這個談判的這個請求跟要求啊即刻啊 最快的時刻跟 爭取跟以前啊那個蔡總統跟川普還可以通上電話我們也要朝向這個努力看能不能讓賴總統跟川普通通通電話不是 笑我啊這個我給你的建議你要跟跟這個跟總統跟官會來建議啊那個 主委 |
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這個委員的建議我們會去傳達所以為什麼4月5號180個國家他普遍加徵10%然後接著針對58個國家要特別稅率又加徵到10%到50%對不對台灣是34那是偏高了32 |
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中國是34% 也有50%的為什麼會有10%到50%的差別最主要是看它的雙邊貿易的逆差順差的額度跟規模 |
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台灣對美國的這個順差台灣對美國的出口以2024來看是出口111.14億美國進口是460億所以我們貿易的順差將近800億所以這貿易的順差就最主要是它作為這個柯真理額外關稅的對等關稅的主要原因 |
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所以我們怎麼樣讓這個貿易就從美國的這個進口能夠增加對美國的出口市場能夠做一些調整做轉移所以這就牽涉到匯率政策前行政院副院長那個施俊錫副院長他也提出這匯率政策可能是一個選項這個相關財經部會有沒有針對這部分去思考用匯率政策 |
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目前是所有的政策都有被思考過就我了解了那很多政策的訂定都有很多多角面的思考多構面的思考我想應該會在適當的時機做出適當的政策出來這個經濟議題是很科學的我不希望太多太多模糊或者抽象的回答這個您贊不贊成用匯率方式來處理 |
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這種事情喔 我講實話喔 他可以這種東西是沒辦法明著去講的因為會進入匯率超重國家的清單會造成我們更大的損失所以在這個部分我是沒有辦法回答好 那回過頭來再請教一下顧部長 |
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這個對美採購啊 農 工 國防產業 對不對農業是農業不管 工是歸你管 對不對天然氣也歸你管 對不對我們相關的對美家鄉採購的金額品項是不是都已經確定了我們盡量在這個收集啦 我們可以向美國這個購買的這個品項 |
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你們都準備好了嗎有 都準備 |
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我希望說有準備要趕快要上路要趕快去想方式法跟美國有任何窗口可以能夠有更多的接觸跟討論報告委員我們的這個方向都跟委員所這個 |
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指導的方向是一樣的至於說進度的部分我們這個前三部隊在美國的部隊也都一直在安排進入要談判的這個時間只是說這一部分很難在這個地方跟你做詳細的報告聽您跟劉主委的這個說明我大概可以了解你我們是政府是有準備的是只是等適當時機美國那邊願意跟我們談的時候我們馬上就啟動談判是的那另外對受衝擊的部分我剛剛還是要強調 |
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這個預算規模還是不夠我覺得要寬列然後要趕快再通過而且你要分階段實施然後把各受衝擊的產業的priority先把它列出來最嚴重的產業你要有更多的補助更多的協助那相對的你要把它做一些分級 |
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所以賴總統提出這五項做法 零關稅談判 擴大利潤採購 拖高利潤投資 排除非關稅障礙我問你請教一下 什麼叫排除非關稅障礙排除非關稅障礙就好像我們過去有一些 譬如說對美豬美牛我們要特別要highlight這個來源這點我們馬上可以做到嗎 |
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這點我們馬上可以知道嗎這個要溝通這是我們的做法我們要由農業部再溝通然後農業部的談判代表會跟美國也溝通解釋我們台灣的這個情形讓對方能夠了解雖然他們認為這個是非關稅傷害的部分但是我們認為應該要多溝通另外擴大對美投資也是經濟部主管的義務嗎 |
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五大做法裡面也是擴大對美投資大部分是那有沒有什麼具體的投資計畫有計畫有沒有具體的具體的部分我們現在在就是這個是談判的一部分我們希望能夠落實這個我們所提的計畫 |
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有談判單位他們能夠我這麼評估這五項做法賴總統提出非常方向正確但是你要具體落實才會有政策效果啊是譬如說譬如說我們現在在進行這個境外關內的這樣的一個台灣園區的設置在美國這樣子那但是一個園區設置到好廠商進駐大概也要四五年所以這個不是解決目前的問題所以我們現在解決就是目前應該怎麼做 |
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未來怎麼做這個我們都有詳細的計畫部長跟主委你們兩位是最重要的財經內閣那對內也很重要對內怎麼樣把相關所有產業所有衝擊產業把它有穩定下來有信心能夠持續獲利持續有序成長對外再包括你們有國貿署對外你們有談判辦 |
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這個國安會也是主管所有財經部會的統籌對外也是非常重要對外很急迫就是怎麼樣跟美國政府最短時間是取得這個協商或是談判的契機這點很重要但是在此之前你們相關準備我再確定一下是不是都準備好了 |
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跟你說明一下我們的確有準備喔就是不只是您講的投資包括採購我們的確是準備了只是這個這個是因為是我們的談判籌碼我們就沒辦法在這裡談但是我很肯定我們有這是一個國家的挑戰也許你可以說是危機危機就是一個轉機是一個挑戰是一個嚴峻的挑戰但是你有準備一定可以客戶挑戰 |
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而且要建基底基具體快速迅速的落實有效率的落實這政策才能到位一起努力謝謝 |