| IVOD_ID |
159908 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159908 |
| 日期 |
2025-04-07 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
聯席會議-11-3-23,36-1 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
1 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
聯席會議 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[1] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[1] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-04-07T12:03:17+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-04-07T12:10:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:07:21 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/c41b1a0504d137e5f0ad11e2d59026e8daa51b2df98f8e7f76318e8f2386bd981d84deb0c5e6415a5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
鄭天財Sra Kacaw |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:03:17 - 12:10:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-04-07T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通、司法及法制委員會第1次聯席會議（事由：審查一、委員蔡其昌等17人、二、委員林宜瑾等27人、三、委員楊瓊瓔等21人及四、委員徐富癸等17人分別擬具「國營臺灣鐵路股份有限公司設置條例第十條及第二十三條條文修正草案」案。
【以上各案詢答完畢後，進行處理】） |
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請次長財政部國產署的國產署委員好好 次長好這個今天有這個國營台灣鐵路股份有限公司設置條例的修正條文那個我先請教這個財政部 |
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財政部國財長署的陳組長 請教你線型的條文 你看一下這個線型的條文線型條文特別提到這個政府因移撥台灣鐵路管理局及所屬機構金管之氏族資產由交通部設立基金處理員機構寄存之短期債務 |
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我要請教的是說以現行的條文這個部分這個原來因為台鐵原來所管理的 |
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有一個是他們自己的財產他們架構進來的有的是原來是國有的土地有的是原來省有的土地由他們來管理的部分對於原來省有或是國有的土地由台鐵管理然後經過公司化之後有了這個條文 |
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那如果行政機關需要蓋公共設施需要撥用的時候他還可以依撥用的程序嗎政府移到這個基金的財產的話如果要撥用的話就必須要用有償撥用的方式 |
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好 這個部分所以是需要去檢討的因為這個本來就不是台鐵的財產所以這個部分作為一個國產署這個本來就是公務尤其是針對原住民而言很重要的就是會有本來符合原基法20條增化邊保留地的 |
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這個部分希望能夠繼續來進行這個部分那我了解你的意思請回座好時間的關係這個行政院114年度的施政方針特別提到要優化環島鐵路網優化東部公路交通網這樣的一個議題這我上次也有提出來這個 |
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台鐵宜花東地區鐵路設施安全改善計畫總共這個計畫的經費是64.1億元這是因為因應0403震災台鐵北迴線災禍搶修的復建那這個 |
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已經送到交通部了,這個你們送到行政院了嗎?還沒有,他這個是在應該是3月的時候送過來那現在交通部目前在審議,審議沒問題我們盡快會往行政院來送 |
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這個部分盡快,因為很急,院長也去過,部長也去了很多次,最起碼兩次以上所以這個部分趕快成合,才能夠符合行政院的施政方針這是第一個 |
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第二個 剛才謝謝這個莊惠雄委員一再的關心這個台鐵花東票價優惠不應該調漲這個部分我自己也質詢過這個但是很遺憾的在114年2月5號台鐵公告票價將調漲平均調伍約26.8% |
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當初是這樣那我跟趙樂熊一樣委員一樣花蓮台東要盡量最好不要調漲但是你們今天公告了是今天公告的嗎還是什麼時候公告的還沒有公告還沒有公告還沒有公告的話就務必要一定要讓台東花蓮台東花蓮 |
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對台鐵過去的台鐵是賺錢的你們回去查一下台鐵過去因為在西部西部縣因為有高鐵的競爭各方面的競爭所以都虧錢的是靠過去是靠花蓮台東都是賺錢的所以要回饋到 |
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現在不要去調帳如果按照你們這個就一個一個 |
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像按照你們現在原來的這是原來的嘛希望不要照這個像台北到花蓮本來是440的自強號現在要變成583到台東要變成935自強號所以這個部分要請交通部這邊務必 |
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如果你們已經送到行政院了嗎?已經核准了我剛問你,你說還沒有?我們還沒公告但是行政院已經核准了今天的新聞有寫6月23啊對,那是要我們要實施那已經核定了,還有什麼方式?我跟委員報告,當然委員剛剛提到這個是應該這麼講,我們當時在擬定這個票價的時候 |
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客運的部分過去立法院給我們的一個合理的報酬率是3%到5%我們現在因為考慮到這個社會各界的一些接受程度我們的報酬剩下0.36%左右0.36%喔也是用全台灣來去算的啦你要聽進去我剛剛的建議就是說因為花蓮、台東過去都替台鐵賺錢 |
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好不好這個還可以改啊因為你6月23號才要正式啊不像剛剛這樣的話就變成我又是虧本了啦不會不會不會因為我現在利潤是已經擔心了就是虧本還不是政府補貼還不是人母的補貼現在他不會補貼 調完以後他不會補貼了這個部分好好地把它列入你們的一個執行 好不好 |