| IVOD_ID |
159782 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159782 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-31 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-6 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
6 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-31T09:37:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-31T09:49:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:27 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| 支援功能[1] |
gazette |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/22902bedf9a457e51c2efbd8ef3ef9f781b41d2d230a5ab3e0e68ba40c49a00f53e0a86760a0e7675ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
賴士葆 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:37:26 - 09:49:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-31T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、財政部、中央銀行、國家發展委員會及法務部就「如何促進台灣金融市場規模發展之執行策略（包括國際金融業務OBU，國際保險業務OIU，國際證券業務OSU)」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席以及各位先進有請金管會的彭主委好 請金管會彭主委早安 |
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我相信GFCI的指數排名你看到了我們越來越差了2024年的9月排到第73名最好的一年是2011年馬政府時代的19名 |
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這個你自己要推這個亞洲資產管理中心啊你自己給自己訂個KPI吧我們就講這個KPI你還不要講一下明年的就今年的九月一年以後我們這個能不能提升提升實名 |
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我想就是跟委員報告一下我覺得我很有信心這一定會止跌回升這因為為什麼就實際上我們在做這件事情在某種程度是增加我們的整個國際金融中心的這些不管是他的能夠開始啟動沒有你不要跟我講教科書亞洲台灣要設在高雄設亞洲資產管理中心啟動沒有 |
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那是專區是我們計畫其中的一個那這部分呢我們應該是明天的話如果說我們快的話按照行政程序我們當然明天會發布這個事辦原則就宣告4月就可以開始來申請4月就可以申請OSU OSU OAU是不是就是主要是OBUOBU就三個三個嘛沒有私人銀行Bank Insurance跟Security嘛對對對主要是私人銀行 |
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海外的帳戶是嗎?對,就是OBU的部分會加上我們的OSUOSU勒?OSU勒?OSU勒?一樣都有?都有!明天開始申請明天應該快的話,我們行政審議明天就會公告那我們這個如果可以的話,就是大概四月就可以開放四月就到了! |
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所以明天公佈辦法明天開始申請我們就請金融業者符合規定的他就可以提出申請 |
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那申請的話最快看他們自己籌備的什麼規定他現在有不同因為我們這次開放有大概三四個業態一個就是銀行的話他必須要第一個他有跟地方政府簽MOU這是一個要件因為他要到地方專區再來他要取得我們私人銀行的執照那再來我們也開放了這個保險還有證券投信什麼人可以申請 |
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要有一定的條件才可以就是普通人可不可以申請不行他要吻合這個要件海外在海外的帳戶可不可以申請那就是如果他是這家銀行他已經有申請這個業務他是我們OBU的客戶那當然就會包含在這次的事辦範圍裡面 |
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主委你要小心一點喔最早成立亞太台灣變成亞太營運中心是李登輝前總統時代那時候中國大陸還沒起來所以他主要希望把經貿國際化強化台灣的安全效果也不錯後來陳水扁當總統了 |
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這個取消掉就沒有了那時候的背景是這個樣子那你現在呢我們來看喔現在來講的話外界會擔心因為有圈人啊 |
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有好幾本護照有些人OBU一堆很簡單的結果你現在是需要把外面的錢進來結果人家已經講了好幾個專家都講了說本主委啊你不要投機不找十三十八米喔你會讓台灣的富豪 |
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把錢匯出去了 透過你這裡面的OVU OSU你怎麼辦我們在整個制度設計我們這次主要是英鎊的部分我們也看到了其實國內很多的財富因為你提了人家有錢人就那些護老就成立家族辦公室他們家族就成立辦公室配合你的政策準備把錢弄出去 |
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我們如果他的家族辦公室成立在國內那個方向剛好顛倒他會把錢進到台灣來反而是我們現階段也許很多的國人在海外成立家族辦公室我們就希望透過這個方式用英鎊的方式吸引他回來由我們的金融服務業團隊來做這件事情你還沒有回答我剛才第一個問題你總是要給自己KPI吧你今天的9月可以提升到幾名提升幾名 |
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那不好意思我剛才講到一半剛好就是因為你講一些江蘇講太多了我沒時間聽你講因為主要是這個評比是以城市為主那我們這個是整個國家在推動我想一定對比如說城市是會有影響的像比如說 |
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當然有影響一個國家有好幾個城市可以參與評比這是以台北市為主但我想說這部分也可以做一個窗口來指標我是覺得說假設我們在推動這個指標我覺得一開始我們才推動幾個月我覺得這種訊息釋放還有很多它裡面的指標一定會有一些影響我覺得一開始接下來看到一定會止跌回升但是接下來應該在一開始的時候我覺得 |
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我給自己一個比較保守的想法就是說我們希望我們推動這個兩年至少能夠提升10到20名左右兩年提升10到20名你企圖心也太少了你不就說我要提升到 |
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我要提升到蔡英文剛開始接的時候27名那是我們未來就是假設每年都能夠往前提升這個我們假設每年都能夠往前提升我們這樣努力的話我想再過幾年之後我想我們就會回到我們應該該有的被認可的我們去財政部的市長一起來好嗎那個時間暫停一下 |
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處長啊OVU OSU OIU營業稅 營所稅 印花稅都不要交了 |
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現在是免稅啊對啊你現在按照我們的法律規定就是免稅啊這樣你有沒有算過說你這水都不要了 其他的人但是他對境內交易這一部分還是要按照對啊 境內還是要境外交易你算過沒有 我稅少收了 但是我賺到什麼 |
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賺到什麼基本上因為他就這個業者來講他還是有會有新的獲利還有獲利的來源你沒有回答問題啊我的意思是我們就省掉我們就少收了稅但是他總是要給我們什麼我們給他免稅他給我什麼你告訴我我們 |
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給他免稅但是就這個業者來他當然就是就跟境外交易這一部分根據目前的規定你講不清楚來主委來講主委來講來來來免稅主委他帶給我們什麼可以讓他給他免稅這個錢很多勒銀索稅一十八勒 |
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但是就業者來講他還是,他雖然是可以使用免稅但是還是要適用我們最低稅負還是要課稅啊第二個他對國內的交易這部分還是要按照國內的這個相關稅法來課稅所以基本上他不會完全免掉啦好,這個你再,我就來同時問一下那個主委請回 |
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這次的緬甸、泰國的地震對銀行的影響113年,去年滬緬甸326件,總共有87億美金新南向好像是政府鼓勵的一個偵測 |
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就工股來講我們在緬甸的都只有辦事處換句話說它是沒有實際的營業行為主委 主委 不好意思 又起來了但是民營的行庫它是會有分行的總部選多少你知道嗎市長你知道嗎主委請問你緬甸泰國的地震總部選多少 |
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報委員,緬甸的曝險是41.42億,然後我們泰國的...講台幣齁,台幣對,這個是台幣,然後那個泰國的曝險是1280億1281億1281億對,台幣我已經...也沒救了 |
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目前我們所接到的訊息就是他們分行的人員還有建築物一切都還因為大家都說緬甸是茂興的新樂園我就請教主委上市公司你知道上市公司有幾家在緬甸 |
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這個我現在沒有這個數據我告訴你 因為時間到了我待會會把這個數據再提供給委員我再告訴你數字132家我們上市公司全部多少家總共上市櫃將近1039再十幾趴我們現在像跑去一個地震影響很大 |
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對阿 那泰國本來就很多我們的產業會移到那邊去這想很大了 你們要注意喔我們剛剛密切呼籲就像我們剛才銀行一發生以後我們銀行就立刻就啟動這個我們去調查這個 曝險的這個情況包括他們所有的航設現在情況 人員如何我們都立刻就啟動了這樣的一個措施阿是不是人員平安 損失不大 |
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他剛才講過就是我們所有的航車現在都是算是就是安全的狀態好 最後一題我請教次長 財政部的次長那個101的大股東易填忠持股31%賣出一半給范工股范工股現在佔70號牌你了解一下他為什麼要撤離啊易填忠為什麼要撤離台灣 |
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他為什麼賣股啦?這是基於他自己的投資要轉換的考量啦所以他當時是希望就是說能夠處分他在台灣的一些資產外資為什麼不賣給外資還賣給本國銀行?那是什麼?其實這個是公司自己的範圍啦那基本上他在101他過去的獲利其實都相當不錯啦 |
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我的解讀啦這是在我的解讀啦這是在賴氏失調之後做的決定要慢慢撤出台灣地緣政治 其實亞太資產管理中心不管什麼中心地緣政治 台灣的政治安定非常重要這一點 老實說他看到了台灣的政治開始不安定會怕一斤十就是這樣 |
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就我們了解他是基於這個他資產配置重新調整的一個考量 |
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賴委員士葆：（9時37分）謝謝主席以及各位先進。有請金管會彭主委。 |
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主席：請金管會彭主委。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：委員，早安。 |
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賴委員士葆：你早。我相信GFCI指數的排名，你看到了嘛？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，看到了。 |
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賴委員士葆：我們愈來愈差了！2024年9月排到第73名，最好的一年是2010年、馬政府時代的第19名，你自己要推亞洲資產管理中心，要給自己訂個KPI吧！我們就講這個KPI，你要不要講一下？今年9月，即一年以後，我們能不能提升10名？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我覺得我很有信心，這一定會止跌回升，為什麼？實際上，我們在做這件事情某種程度是增加我們整個國際金融中心的，不管是能見度…… |
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賴委員士葆：開始啟動沒有？你不要跟我講教科書……臺灣要在高雄設亞洲資產管理中心，啟動沒有？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：那是專區，是我們計畫其中的一個。這部分如果快的話，按照行政程序，我們大概明天會發布試辦原則，這就宣告了4月就可以開始來申請…… |
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賴委員士葆：4月就可以申請OSU、OIU，是不是？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：他們籌備完畢……主要是OBU，還有私人銀行。 |
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賴委員士葆：這三個嘛？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：沒有！私人銀行…… |
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賴委員士葆：banking、insurance跟securities，是嘛？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，主要是私人銀行的OBU。 |
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賴委員士葆：海外的帳戶，是不是？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，就OBU的部分，會加上我們的OSU、OIU。 |
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賴委員士葆：OBU…… |
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彭主任委員金隆：OIU、OSU都有。 |
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賴委員士葆：OSU呢？一樣？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：都有。然後有這個試辦辦法裡面…… |
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賴委員士葆：明天開始申請？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：應該快的話，我們的行政程序明天就會公告，如果可以的話，大概4月就可以開放…… |
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賴委員士葆：4月就到了！明天就4月了。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：所以這兩天我們那個辦法就會公布了。 |
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賴委員士葆：所以明天公布辦法、明天開始申請？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，我們就請符合規定的金融業者就可以提出申請。 |
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賴委員士葆：好。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：申請的話，最快看他們自己籌備的…… |
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賴委員士葆：符合什麼規定？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：它現在有不同，因為我們這次大概有開放三、四個業態，一個就是銀行，第一，必須要有跟地方政府簽MOU，這是一個要件，因為它要到地方專區；再來，它要取得我們私人銀行的執照；另外我們也開放了保險，還有證券、投信。 |
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賴委員士葆：什麼人可以申請？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：要有一定的條件才可以。 |
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賴委員士葆：不是，普通人可不可以申請？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：不行，它要吻合這個要件。 |
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賴委員士葆：海外，比如在海外的帳戶可不可以申請？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：如果它是這家銀行，而它已經有申請這個業務，是我們OBU的客戶，當然就會包含在這次的試辦範圍裡面。 |
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賴委員士葆：主委，你要小心一點喔！最早說臺灣要成立亞太營運中心是李登輝前總統時代，那時候中國大陸還沒起來，所以他主要希望把經貿國際化、強化臺灣的安全，效果也不錯，後來陳水扁當總統整個取消掉、就沒有了，那時候的背景是這個樣子，但現在呢？我們來看，以現在來講，外界會擔心，因為有錢人有好幾本護照，有錢人OBU一堆很簡單，結果你現在是希望把外面的錢弄進來，結果人家已經講了、好幾個專家都講了，說彭主委，你不要「偷雞不著蝕把米」，你會讓臺灣的富豪把錢匯出去了，透過你這裡面的OBU把錢匯出去，你怎麼辦？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：這個委員放心，我們這次在整個制度設計上主要是inbound的部分，我們是希望、我們也看到了，其實國人很多的財富…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為你提了，人家有錢人、那些富豪就成立家族辦公室，他們家族就成立辦公室，配合你的政策，怎麼樣把錢弄出去。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：如果他的家族辦公室成立在國內，方向剛好顛倒，他會把錢進到臺灣來，反而是現階段也許很多的國人在海外成立家族辦公室，我們就希望透過這個方式，用inbound的方式吸引他回來，由我們金融服務業的團隊來做這件事情。 |
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賴委員士葆：你還沒有回答我剛才第一個問題，你總是要給自己KPI吧！今年的9月你可以提升到幾名？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：不好意思，我剛才講到一半剛好就是…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為你講太多了，我沒時間聽你講。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：因為這個評比主要是以城市為主，我們這部分是整個國家在推動，一定對城市是會有影響的，像比如說…… |
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賴委員士葆：當然有影響啊！ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，一個國家有好幾個城市可以參與評比，這是以臺北市為主，但我想這部分也可以做一個窗口為指標，假設我們推動這個指標，一開始才推動幾個月，這種訊息釋放，還有很多裡面的指標，一定會有一些影響，接下來看到一定會止跌回升。但是應該在一開始的時候，我給自己一個比較保守的想法，就是說，我們希望推動兩年，至少能夠提升10到20名左右。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，兩年提升10到20名，你企圖心也太小了，應該說你要提升到蔡英文剛開始接的時候27名，比較差不多。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：那是我們未來……假設每年都能夠…… |
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賴委員士葆：講這麼保守。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：沒有，我們假設每年都能夠往前提升，以這樣努力的話，我想再過幾年之後，我們就會回到我們該有的、被認可的地位。 |
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賴委員士葆：我們請財政部的次長一起來，好嗎？時間暫停一下。 |
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主席：時間暫停，請次長。 |
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賴委員士葆：次長好。 |
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阮次長清華：委員好。 |
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賴委員士葆：OBU、OSU、OIU，營業稅、營所稅、印花稅都不要交，對吧？ |
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阮次長清華：現在是免稅啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：對啊！ |
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阮次長清華：境外交易那一部分是免稅。 |
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賴委員士葆：對啊！現在按照我們的法律規定就是免稅。 |
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阮次長清華：是啊！ |
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賴委員士葆：這樣你有沒有算過到底是課到什麼？稅都不要了，其他的呢？ |
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阮次長清華：但是它對境內交易這一部分還是要按照目前的規定。 |
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賴委員士葆：對啊，境內還是要，但境外交易這個東西你算過沒有？稅少收了，但是你賺到什麼？請問你賺到什麼？ |
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阮次長清華：基本上因為就這個業者來講，它還是會有新的獲利，有獲利的來源。 |
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賴委員士葆：你沒有回答問題啊！ |
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阮次長清華：我的意思是…… |
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賴委員士葆：我們就省掉、少收了稅，但是它總是要給我們什麼嘛！我們給它免稅，它給我什麼？你告訴我。 |
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阮次長清華：我們給它免稅，但是業者當然就境外交易這一部分，根據目前的規定…… |
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賴委員士葆：你講不清楚，主委來講、主委來講，來、來、來！主委，它帶給我們什麼，所以可以讓它免稅？這個錢很多耶！營所稅20%。 |
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阮次長清華：但是就業者來講，它雖然可以適用免稅，但是還是要適用最低稅負，還是要課稅。第二個，它對國內交易這一部分還是要按照國內的相關稅法來課稅，基本上它不會完全免掉啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：OBU、OSU都是境外。好，你在，我就同時問一下，主委請回。次長，這次緬甸、泰國的地震對銀行的影響？去（113）年赴緬甸326件，總共有87億美金，新南向現在是政府鼓勵的政策。 |
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阮次長清華：就公股來講，我們在緬甸都只有辦事處，換句話說，它沒有實際的營業行為，所以…… |
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賴委員士葆：來，主委，不好意思，再請主委。 |
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主席：請主委。 |
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阮次長清華：但是民營的行庫是會有分行的。 |
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賴委員士葆：你知道總暴險多少？次長知道嗎？主委，請問你，緬甸、泰國的地震總暴險多少？ |
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莊副主任委員琇媛：報告委員，緬甸的暴險是41.42億，然後我們泰國…… |
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賴委員士葆：講臺幣。 |
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莊副主任委員琇媛：對，這個是臺幣，泰國的暴險是1,280億。 |
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賴委員士葆：1,280億？ |
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莊副主任委員琇媛：對，臺幣。 |
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賴委員士葆：這樣也不少耶！ |
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莊副主任委員琇媛：不過，目前我們所接到的訊息，就是他們分行的人員還有建築物一切都還安全。 |
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賴委員士葆：因為大家都說緬甸是冒險的新樂園，我就請教主委，你知道有幾家上市公司在緬甸？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：我現在沒有這個數據…… |
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賴委員士葆：因為時間到了，我告訴你…… |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，我待會會把這個數據再提供給委員。 |
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賴委員士葆：沒有，我現在告訴你數字是132家。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：是。 |
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賴委員士葆：132家，我們上市公司全部多少家？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：總共上市櫃將近…… |
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賴委員士葆：上市公司。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：1,039家。 |
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賴委員士葆：占百分之十幾，我們新南向跑去那邊，一個地震就影響很大。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：對啊，泰國本來就有很多我們的產業會移到那邊去。 |
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賴委員士葆：影響很大，你們要注意喔，暴險這麼高。 |
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彭主任委員金隆：我們當然密切注意，就像剛才講到一發生以後，我們銀行就立刻啟動調查暴險的情況，包括他們所有行舍的情況及人員如何，我們都立刻啟動這樣一個措施。 |
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賴委員士葆：是不是人員平安、損失不大？ |
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彭主任委員金隆：對，他剛才講過，我們所有的行舍現在都算是安全的狀態。 |
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賴委員士葆：好，最後一題，我請教財政部次長，101的大股東伊藤忠持股31%，賣出一半給泛公股，泛公股現在占72%，你了解一下它為什麼撤離？伊藤忠為什麼要撤離臺灣？ |
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阮次長清華：為什麼要撤離臺灣…… |
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賴委員士葆：它為什麼要賣股啦？ |
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阮次長清華：這是基於它自己的投資要轉換的考量啦，所以它當時是希望能夠處分在臺灣的一些資產。 |
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賴委員士葆：為什麼不賣給外資，還賣給本國銀行？是沒人要還是怎樣？ |
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阮次長清華：其實這個是公司治理的範圍，基本上他在101過去的獲利其實都相當不錯啦！ |
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賴委員士葆：我的解讀啦，這是在「賴17條」之後做的決定，要慢慢撤出臺灣，地緣政治，其實亞太資產管理中心，不管是什麼中心，地緣政治、臺灣的政治安定非常重要，這一點老實說，它看到了臺灣的政治開始不安定，會怕，錢快跑，就是這樣。 |
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阮次長清華：就我們了解，它是基於資產配置重新調整的一個考量，謝謝。 |
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主席：好，謝謝召委。接著請郭國文委員質詢。 |
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284 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_id |
委員會-11-3-20-6 |
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賴惠員 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[1] |
林德福 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[2] |
吳秉叡 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[3] |
賴士葆 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[4] |
郭國文 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[5] |
陳玉珍 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[6] |
顏寬恒 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[7] |
鍾佳濱 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[8] |
羅明才 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[9] |
李坤城 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[10] |
李彥秀 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[11] |
黃珊珊 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[12] |
楊瓊瓔 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[13] |
王鴻薇 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[14] |
林思銘 |
| gazette.agenda.speakers[15] |
王世堅 |
| gazette.agenda.page_start |
227 |
| gazette.agenda.meetingDate[0] |
2025-03-31 |
| gazette.agenda.gazette_id |
1143301 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_lcidc_ids[0] |
1143301_00005 |
| gazette.agenda.meet_name |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第6次全體委員會議紀錄 |
| gazette.agenda.content |
邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、財政部、中央銀行、國家發展委員會及法務部就「如
何促進台灣金融市場規模發展之執行策略（包括國際金融業務 OBU，國際保險業務 OIU，國際證
券業務 OSU）」進行專題報告，並備質詢 |
| gazette.agenda.agenda_id |
1143301_00004 |