| IVOD_ID |
159768 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159768 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-27T11:47:02+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-27T11:59:21+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:19 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db900ca36a8642aeb27a41a80f058510e45acd16a2c63b7abd3ddf1956145e7c495575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:47:02 - 11:59:21 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、中央銀行楊總裁金龍、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、國家發展委員會劉主任委員鏡清、經濟部郭部長智輝、農業部陳部長駿季就「因應美國川普政府對等關稅策略與我國被列入骯髒十五國名單，我國政府財經相關單位因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 我請經濟部蔣副部長 蔣次長蔣次長請財政部莊部長 財政部莊部長委員好蔣次長 莊部長莊部長我覺得先前啊 我跟你提到的汽車高關稅跟 |
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保健食品的高關稅我覺得我確實有點錯怪了你啦我今天在經濟部面前喔我跟你提在這個部分財政部是戴罪羔羊啦經濟部是罪魁禍首然後經濟部我覺得很奇怪啦第一點你們部長部長今天沒來我還以為他在經濟委員會那我沒話講 |
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他今天是請假耶這麼重要的事你回去問他什麼原因請假搞清楚派一個副部長來負責應付也來應付應付隨便來做個報告是這樣子嗎你看看你們這個報告 |
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我先說人家今天列席財政部也好 中央銀行也好 金管會也好包括國發會 你看看他們的報告中央銀行九張金管會七張財政部也都六張以上就只有你經濟部我剛剛跟你提你是最可貴貨手結果你扣掉 |
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第一頁封面最後一頁扣掉你只有兩頁就這樣短短的兩張最後一張為什麼要扣掉最後一張因為他寫以上報告敬請指教並敬祝各位委員身體健康萬事如意謝謝廢話 那那一張算什麼所以你就兩張好啦 |
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這麼重要的事件我們要應對的黑經濟部你的態度就是雲淡風輕啦你不但不認為骯髒十五國對我們台灣這個影響而且你更沒有提出具體的對策如何回應的方式通通沒有 付之卻如我今天就針對這兩項跟你提 |
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因為我剛剛講的汽車關稅高關稅17.5%這一年來這已經第三個會期我一直問莊部長這件事說汽車關稅是不是應該調降 |
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他講講講 講到最後沒辦法 他只好把實話說出來他說因為經濟部訂的上位政策 說要保護我們國內的汽車產業我請問你啦 育勇這個阿斗 我們已經保護了他六十幾年了 請問經濟部 |
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還要保護這個阿斗保護多久啦我現在請問你啊還要保護這個阿斗保護多久你告訴我 |
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阿斗早在8年前就把汽車研發中心就去掉了 |
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他在將近十年來不務正業他汽車的設計製造生產都沒了他現在做兩三件事情一個他設一個租賃公司就我講的薯條三兄弟他排老二玉龍 |
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在育容在做放高利貸的事好了那個其次第二個他在做土地開發蓋房子啊 |
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完全跟汽車產業無關你在保護他保護什麼第三個他幫中共木馬屠城把中共從MT車開始就這樣化整為零進到我們台灣那因為藉由我們保護國產車的方式在台灣組裝變成國產車我們在保護他天啊我真搞不懂經濟部你們是瞎了嗎沒看到嗎 |
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你竟然放任這樣的事情發生還好 還好總統派院長我跟他提了以後他去年七月有設了我們國產車的定義自治率從15%開始好啦 你設了15%玉龍今年初他又開始了NG他又重新上市 為什麼我們訂15%嘛 對不對部長你有沒有去 次長你有沒有去查一查 |
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他有自私率他說有啦我有到15%什麼的他就把MG車子裡面座椅啦天啊汽車最重要的是引擎發動機電瓶輪軸這些通通沒有通通沒有那才是汽車的要件結果他跟你塞了一個說啊座椅座椅在我們台灣座天啊要他去 |
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出口到中國把他製造的車要到反攻大陸他一點辦法都沒有他現在幫中共在木馬屠城台灣這就是現在你要保護的禦龍啊然後美國他針對這個來不高興當然很合理啊因為他要求的那個 |
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講的不只是關稅齁包括不公平的補貼啦其他稅負等所以你17.5%的高關稅以外還有高貨物稅25到30%營業稅5%這應當啦所以整個我們對美國的進口車稅負會高達55到61%這個你們應該非常清楚了了若指掌結果就我講的嘛 |
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你們來到這裡我八個字講不當一回事你身為上位政策制定的經濟部你可以這樣子嗎所以我希望你把我今天的問題帶回去問你們部長那另外一點 |
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我們財政部沒有問題啦我說另外這個保健食品保健食品啦 另外一個30%的高關稅也是經濟部所試經濟部說要保護我們國內的這些生技業 製藥業所以訂這麼高的關稅欸 韓國啊 4%日本高一點 14%其他東南亞國家 泰國越南都多5% |
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我們竟然高達30%那個市長保健食品營養品是為國人的健康為國人健康的竟然高過30%高過會危害健康的菸酒菸酒那麼高也才27%那要照顧我們健康的要更高要30% |
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你不覺得這很莫名其妙嗎 難道保護到國內這些小商業我現在講給你看 這些多不公平 至少這幾項都不公平第一點 這讓我們國人沒辦法用合理的比較低廉的價格取得品質比較更好的歐美日的這些保健品 這你也知道啊 |
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第二個在我們一年一千七百億的保健食品消費當中我們已經高達一千億是國內這些大廠做的國內這些廠盤踞了這一千億的市場他們都上市上櫃了啦但是帶來的影響是什麼你知道嗎 |
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這些生氣藥廠不再研發藥品啦我們現在健保遇到那麼困難那在藥價的部分 這些藥廠也不去研發重要的心臟病 高血壓 糖尿病 重要會致病的藥他們也不做 也不研發好啦 你不研發 那讓他專利到了以後 你讓你去做學名藥好不好幫我們政府分擔一點好不好 他也不 |
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通通不 為什麼因為他把持著這一千億這麼高金額 高獲益的他幹嘛再去做這些所以你看 去年前年我們連那個蘇易有沒有 |
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沒有人要做啊 便宜的東西誰做 天啊這是我們國家的生技業藥廠 他們該做這樣嗎那你不 好了我們從美國進口的這一個部分 進口的還有高達 |
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低啦 低啦我們台灣一千億了嘛送七百億從國外美國 紐西蘭 日本進國美國就佔五十一趴啦三百多億 難怪他們當然不爽這個是合理的啦剛好而已啦所以我不懂啊你那麼高的關稅 你說要保護產業欸 產業的保護比保護我們國民的身體健康重要嗎我請問你 |
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跟委員報告保健食品的部分我們已經研議會往調降的方向來做研議往調降那一年要降多少你要幾年內去達成調到合理這個部分我們還需要跟財政部還有相關的產業不用你不用跟財政部談了人家財政部講你的上位政策這樣決定所以他們只好去做 |
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好不好 你定個timetable出來嘛你的目標嘛 好不好現在有在討論 我們會調降會調降 啊多久調降 多久內開始實施調降我們還需要在內部做相關的研議那什麼時候給我答覆 因為你是次長歲你沒辦法答覆嗎那這樣要你們部長來啊 要他來他又不來 |
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他藐視我們委員會 藐視全體立法院同仁耶 天啊有請假這麼重要的時候 這麼重要的財經濟部 他請什麼假 請什麼假 |
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你回去順便問他你把我講的這兩件跟他提順便加一個小問題就是我問他為什麼請假啊今天該來開會的時間他的行程他告訴我今天上午在幹什麼好不好 |