| IVOD_ID |
159732 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159732 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-27T12:21:07+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-27T12:33:46+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:12:39 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db900ecc649297c87f66b1a80f058510e45ac9b62a44c83059aafc7b66ba030a8f37c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅明才 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:21:07 - 12:33:46 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請財政部莊部長翠雲、中央銀行楊總裁金龍、金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆、國家發展委員會劉主任委員鏡清、經濟部郭部長智輝、農業部陳部長駿季就「因應美國川普政府對等關稅策略與我國被列入骯髒十五國名單，我國政府財經相關單位因應策略」進行專題報告，並備質詢。） |
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特政部的總部長、聯網的主務總裁金管會金管會陳副主委王副局長桂買中興桂買中興陳立青總經理陳總國發高副主委國發會的高副主委 |
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以及經濟部江次長經濟部江次長農業部杜次長農業部杜次長最重要的是談判辦公室嚴惠欣嚴副總代表嚴副總好那因為這個議題很嚴肅即將面對的是一個很大的挑戰對台灣的未來可能會影響也許五年十年所以我想請教一下 |
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那個莊部長自從美國開啟關稅大戰以後可以說是碎碎不安他都很緊張啊那部長你準備好了嗎 |
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跟委員報告,是的,我們每一個部會都盯緊了相關的訊息而且會跟在行政院召開相關的工作小組會議既然你已經準備好了,那我請問你川普到底在想什麼?川普啊,讓美國再次的偉大所以他再次偉大,我們台灣每一年賺美國多少錢?從美國這邊的話,我們是順差700多億的美金 |
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這個金額大不大?在和美國的貿易夥伴國裡面,我們是大概排第六名那事實上,你講這個金額,影響周邊就很大比如說央行周邊啊,匯率的問題啊還有我們政企局相關,那我要請教一下是 |
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黃副局長嘛好那我請問一下最直接的請問上櫃的是誰陳總經理剛剛有提到啊如果關稅都調高的話汽車零組件大概有什麼行業會直接的影響 |
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就我們櫃買中心之前有詢問了一些上櫃的公司大概一些電子零組件有部分的公司會有稍許的影響但是都還在可控範圍之內電子還有呢電子零組件汽車的周邊不會嗎我們部分這部分的公司很少然後對他們的影響也不大好那我請一下黃副局長 |
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你們統計過所有1850家上市上櫃公司會因為關稅調整影響的有多少影響的範圍是多大 |
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跟委員報告我們之前有透過證交所跟歸買中心去對整個市場1800多家去做問卷調查那目前回來的話自己評估認為說影響會比較重大的大概會有22家左右那22家 |
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這個具體的名單我想我們都不便去提供但是現在只知道說這些的話就是剛剛提到的有一些電子產業或是一些汽車難怪我們看到台股現在都萎靡不振因為大家都看到未來的前途坎坷大家害怕那因為這樣的關稅的調整會不會有產業外移的問題我聽到很多的企業企業主說不會動的 |
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所以就轉進泰國啊跑到越南嗎那接著請經濟部好了經濟部那剛剛他們都講了嘛江次長你覺得影響的層面有多大這些人最好的建議是去哪裡去泰國好呢還是去越南好 |
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報告委員因為這個4月2號的報告還沒有出來所以確切會對哪些特定的產業哪些特定的國家科徵什麼樣的關稅現在還不清楚但是我們之前4月2號是什麼明年是不是不是4月2號他會公佈但是我們已經就各種情況4月2號是指今天的哪一天今年4月2號今天幾號今天是3月27號所以還有幾天下禮拜馬上就到了啊 |
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這個時間你應該要做砂盤推演嘛最嚴重他要課多少對各行業你們有沒有統計過比如說汽車周邊的零組件你們的預測你們砂盤推演最高他要課多少關稅提高多少 |
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汽車化因為很多都是電子產品其實它是如果是歸類於電子產品資訊業的話它是沒有關稅但是我們一般的汽車的話大概是百分之八汽車零組件是百分之八到百分之十五的關稅這是台灣的相較於美國來得高對 你有沒有算過到十五的話這些廠商的承受能力在哪裡 |
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個別的廠商現在都有做我們也交換過意見有些廠商呢其實已經有到國外去佈局那甚至有這個Tesla的供應鏈廠商已經在美國設廠也有一些廠商呢先前也有到墨西哥去設廠好那你剛剛說到國外佈局大概是首選是哪幾國看個別廠商都不一定那有去因為先前有這個 |
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USMCA的優惠所以我們有很多的廠商電子業相關廠商是在墨西哥在墨西哥佈局的那昨天川普政府有公布232對於相關的這個汽車等等的產品要課徵25%的關稅但是墨西哥跟加拿大是豁免的那請問一下次長這個相關影響的產業別會有多少大概多少家公司 |
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因為昨天公布是只針對汽車業但是呢4月2號的報告出來之後我們還必須要去了解川普政府他會選哪些特定的產業或者是哪些特定的國家你們今天有盤點過嘛假設他強度弄到最強情況是怎麼樣 |
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強度最強的話那應該就是全世界最相關的國家都會被科證所以我們都也是會比照啊是不是而且我們也會去看其他對手國我們的競爭相關產品競爭那你要跟他講啊你這邊跟我們科其他國家一樣的關稅你跟他可不可以宣布台積電就不要去啦 |
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你做生意你要懂得談判嘛你台積電拿所謂一千億美元公佈兩千億美元那就六兆多啊你不能說這個也要那個也要通通他都要買東西拿去那我們這樣怎麼談判呢來 談判的代表是誰那談判的代表看起來都是漂漂亮亮的 |
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稱讚你的話大概就是美若天仙大概就是柔若是花你們談判你起碼找個像老柯一樣來談吧對不對談一談談不好說不定還可以把他的秘密武器拿出來敲一敲其實是蠻震驚的啊你們要有這樣的一個魄力啊好 談判代表是嚴富總你準備好了嗎 |
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我們包括經貿辦在內的所有的行政團隊都準備好了真的因為我們一直密集的召開會議都有做各種的你沒有談到一條啊你跟他講說台積電都過去了我們能給的都給的啊還有我跟你講一個來央行 |
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央行 剛剛有人提到說去 楊總裁去是好奇啊事實上 你知道長期以來啊美國每次在困難的時候賣不出去的東西房地美 房地美 叫誰來買 央行有沒有買你回答 點頭是什麼意思但是 我們持有的比例現在是降低的有沒有買 央行有沒有買現在有吧 |
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每次美國有難的時候台灣就站出來第一個都力挺啊我們進一步的資料就是央行主要買的是美國政府的債券買了多少目前比例好像是92%左右總金額是多少美金多少 |
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我們現在的外匯存底是我出鍋講一下但比較正確的我回去查一下因為那水準在變化外匯存底如果目前來講大概是五千七百多億我們跟他買了五千多億的那個是外匯存底乘上比例如果是百分之九十大概大概是四千多億好所有那個談判代表 |
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我們仔細資料到時候再提供給你麻煩那個嚴副總所以你談判的時候你要有底氣啊你要有籌碼啊美國除了要拿台積電他還要拿什麼 |
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我想美國的政策很明白他就是要強化他的經濟安全國家安全所以台積電只是他確保供應鏈安全的一環哪一家公司是他的安全的一環除了台積電還有哪一家應該是說他覺得的關鍵產業都是他的經濟安全的一環所以晶片是一種那其他的礦場稀土也都是他所關鍵的所以你們在談判的時候要整理一下 |
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比如說你要請教一下央行總裁啊你如果給我課關稅你要向加拿大總理的那個氣魄談判不要輸嘛你見面看到川普你就輸一半那怎麼談下去咧強硬一點好不好 |
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你請教央行如果他要用高關稅我們已經對他們很好了要買武器就買武器要叫什麼就做什麼我們全力配合你還要一致性的跟其他國家來對我們課高關稅這是不公平的你就帶一句那那個外匯存體買美國國債買多少你再講一次央行央行多少 |
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買了多少億的美國公債 來你說我們剛才講目前持有的美國公債部會是外匯存底的九成九成是多少那有四千多億的美元啊對 四千多億好 就是這句話 那個台灣代表你說你可以弄高關稅我四千多億的美國的公債我全部贖回 |
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本席的用心理解請你們多多站在所有產業的未來的發展的辛苦方面多多考量另外那個什麼 健康食品的部分現在人口老化 |
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吃的健康食品都是老人啊結果負擔的成本是那麼高你們趕緊檢討一下吧 |