| IVOD_ID |
15973 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15973 |
| 日期 |
2024-06-03 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-1-20-16 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
1 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
16 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第1會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Full |
| 開始時間 |
2024-06-03T08:30:14+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2024-06-03T12:29:00+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
03:58:46 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://h264media01.ly.gov.tw:443/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1M/b41997f390c3528e572295eeeb9359418bd03a951da4504b3be8d109af184be4ac42c691794f1d965ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 會議時間 |
2024-06-03T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會議（事由：一、繼續審查「財政收支劃分法」14案：（繼續詢答）
(一) 本院台灣民眾黨黨團擬具「財政收支劃分法修正草案」案。
(二) 本院國民黨黨團、委員羅明才等23人、委員林思銘等20人、委員許宇甄等16人、委員洪孟楷等22人分別擬具「財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案」等5案。
(三) 本院委員伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe等17人擬具「財政收支劃分法第三條條文修正草案」案。
(四) 本院委員陳玉珍等24人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條條文修正草案」案。
(五) 本院委員王鴻薇等24人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條、第十二條及第三十條條文修正草案」案。
(六) 本院委員陳超明等17人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條、第十二條及第十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
(七) 本院委員賴瑞隆等16人、委員蔡易餘等16人分別擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之一條文修正草案」等2案。
(八) 本院委員賴士葆等29人擬具「財政收支劃分法第十六條之二、第三十七條之二及第三十八條之二條文修正草案」案。
(九) 本院委員賴士葆等22人擬具「財政收支劃分法第三十八條之一條文修正草案」案。
二、審查「財政收支劃分法」3案：（繼續詢答）
(一) 本院委員丁學忠等17人擬具「財政收支劃分法部分條文修正草案」案。
(二) 本院委員黃健豪等21人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條及第十二條條文修正草案」案。
(三) 本院委員邱鎮軍等19人擬具「財政收支劃分法第八條、第十二條及第十六條之一條文修正草案」案。
【6月3日及6日二天一次會】） |
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大家早請署名報告委員出席人數報告委員會出席委員與主法定人數現在開始開會請議事人員宣讀上次會議事錄 |
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委員會第11屆第1會期財政委員會第15次全體委員會議．事由．時間中華民國113年5月30日星期四九十一分至十三十四分地點清仙樓九樓大禮堂出席委員林德武等14人、列席委員黃國昌等10人、列席官員財政部部長莊翠雲、金輪監督管理委員會主任委員彭金龍等、主席郭昭吉委員郭文、報告事項 |
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收支劃分法．．．．．．．．．．． |
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財政部部長莊翠穎、金融監督管理委員會主任委員彭金榮分別提出報告後具有委員林德福等21人提出質詢均經金融監督管理委員會主任委員彭金榮等予以答覆決定一、報告及詢答完畢二、委員質詢會及答覆或請補充資訊請相關部會逾一週內順便答覆委員亦要求期限者從其所定宣讀完畢歷史錄等下再確定請伊斯蘭宣讀今日議程 |
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收支劃分法修正草案案 |
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收支劃分法部份條文修正草案等5案。三、本院委員吳立華等17人擬具財政收支劃分法第三條條文修正草案。四、本院委員陳玉珍等24人擬具財政收支劃分法第八條條文修正草案。五、本院委員黃安宏威等24人擬具財政收支劃分法第八條、第十二條及第30條條文修正草案。六、本院委員陳昌明等17人擬具財政收支劃分法第八條、第十二條及第十六條之一條文修正草案。 |
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收支劃分法第16條之一條緣修正草案等二案、本院委員代事保等29人擬具財政收支劃分法第16條之二、第37條之二及第38條之二條緣修正草案。 |
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收支劃分法第38條之一條緣修正草案、二、審查財政收支劃分法3案、一、本院委員丁學中等17人擬具財政收支劃分法部分條緣修正草案、二、本院委員黃建豪等21人擬具財政收支劃分法第8條及第12條條緣修正草案、三、本院委員邱振軍等19人擬具財政收支劃分法第8條、第12條及第16條之一條緣修正草案、先提完畢。 |
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介紹現場黃珊珊黃委員黃國昌黃委員財政部部長莊翠雲法制處代理處長黃慧玲國庫署署長陳柏辰負稅署署長宋秀琳官務署署長彭英偉 |
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國有財產署署長曾國基、城鎮資訊中心主任張文希、行政院主計總署主計長陳淑芝、內政部民政司專門委員劉立芳、國家發展委員會經濟發展處專門委員郭永騰、 |
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民族民族委員會副處長宏林環境部大氣環境師專門委員陳宜嘉華部參事林豐文接著介紹臺北市政府財政局副局長鍾志耀新北市政府財政局專門委員蔣喬梅 |
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台南市財政局專賣委員簡雅慧、台東市政府財政局主秘李子玲、台南市財政局專賣委員陳家慶、高雄市政府財政局專賣委員黃琛、新竹縣政府財政處科長蔡士煌、 |
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苗栗縣政府財政處專員李慧琴南桃縣政府財政處科長林靜娟雲林縣政府財政處副處長張志萌嘉義縣財政稅務局副局長王美義宜蘭縣政府財政局副局長蔡育婉 |
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花蓮縣政府財政處副處長黃淑梅台東縣政府財政基金發展處副處長葉振鶴澎湖縣政府財政處科員許銘賢金門縣政府參議呂清福財政處處長陳國廷連江縣財政稅務局科長張壽民 |
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基隆市政府財政處科研員廖宇軒新竹市政府財政處副處長黃湘玲佳伊市政府財政稅務局科研員李佳芳 |
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那這裡也報告一下禮拜三早上有一個會議邀請22縣市首長都來有缺錢的來沒缺的就不要來沒關係那禮拜三還要舉辦一個公聽會也歡迎各縣市的市長、縣長來發表一下他們自己權益的問題所有的委員都會在以供最後的一個定奪跟參考現在我們 |
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進入今日議程的安排。繼續審查台灣民眾黨黨員擬具財劃法等14案。繼續審查一、委員丁學忠等17人擬具財劃法分條文修正草案。二、委員黃健豪等21人擬具財劃法第8條及第12條條文修正草案案。 |
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三、委員邱正軍等19人擬具財放法第八條、第十二條及第十六條之一條文修正草案案。五、針對本日議程因為5月20 |
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的會議以詢答之第八委員做以下宣告本日會議委員若有相關修正動議請送財政委員會議事人員收件以後續的審查程序二現依登記順序請登記第九位的黃珊珊委員質詢 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法：一、 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．．� |
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收支劃分法修正草案：（事由：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法修正草案》案：（事由：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法修正草案》案。 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員許宇甄等26人、委員 |
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財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法：一、 |
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收支劃分法．一、繼續審查．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、 |
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收支劃分法 包括委員、包括大家來做說明。主席長,你的立場不要告訴我你換了位置又換了腦袋。」 |
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事實上是情況有改變整個有做改變那當初我在的時候那時候在台南市的時候的確是困難的確是困難的確困難而且他舉債額度非常的高但是後來呢在102年他有修改那個公債法所以好一點點對在舉債方面壓力就沒有那麼大我想大家都知道 |
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收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等23人分別擬具、「財政 |
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沒有一個完整、清楚或者是明確的方式最重要的是這一次各位看到各個版本16個版本裡面都在討論其實都在討論垂直分配的問題 |
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收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續 |
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每一年有這麼多的稅劇剩餘的情況下大概有2000億的錢這個餅可以拿下來分給地方政府這是我們認為比較合理的方式這也是我們希望行政院包括財政部包括主計處把你們中央政府你到底要有多少錢你到底有多少錢可以拿出來分配把它講清楚說明白兩位了解我的意思嗎?如果我們的版本你們認為有問題也請你們說出來你們的問題 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會議第16次全體委員會議第16次全體委員會議第17次全體委員會議第18次全體委員會議第18次全體委員會議第19次全體委員會議第19次全體委員會議第20次全體委員會議第21次全體委員會議第22次全體委員會議第23次全體委員會議第24次全體委員會議第24次全體委員會議第27次全體委員會議第28次全體委員會議第28次全體委員會議第29次全體委員會議第30次全體委員會議第30次全體委員會議第31次全體委員會議第32次全體委員會議第33次全體委員會 |
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行政院要有自己的態度,要把這些說清楚,不要再造成社會的衝突,更不要造成地方政府大家可能會有互相對立的狀況,這都不是財劃法應該有的結果。兩位,我都相信你們都是非常優秀的事務官身上來的,所以在事務官的 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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稍後請自己想辦法,對吧?每一次都這樣。我們在台北市的時候也發現,中央只要請客,地方就要買單。但地方的錢從哪裡來?就是看中央政府,啊我今年補助款再給你多一點,好了。 |
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收支劃分法 明年有沒有? |
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不知道。」這才是為什麼要修財法法的主要原因因為不明確、不公開、不透明就會造成中央請客、地方買單的這種種種的狀況到今天為止就像剛剛主席處長講的因為他在地方政府待過財政困難的時候求助無門最後變成什麼?養中央的鼻息所以我們希望財化法是要把這些分配的方式 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續擬具 |
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行政院必須要說清楚你們對財劃法的態度。如果賴總統他在當市長當院長的時候都提過第二個這個法已經25年沒有修了第三個我剛講的垂直分配如果可以達到公平的話水平分配其實基本上不會再有人爭吵所以部長你的任務就是把垂直分配分清楚 |
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收支出場的任務就是告訴我們中央政府到底需要多少錢到底會影響多少讓人民知道不是這個不是一個零和遊戲也不是一個你輸我贏的遊戲而是大家都能夠健全財政然後讓地方政府回到他既有的地方自治我再講一個數字六都的自籌款大概是50%到55% |
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一般的縣市他的自籌款23%到27%兩位你覺得這樣合理嗎一般的縣市他只有25%來自於自籌款其他都要靠中央補助他怎麼過日子他只能每天在這邊吵吵吵然後喊窮然後靠著中央給他們的憐憫給他多點錢25到27%的自籌款的比例不是一個健全的財政部長你的看法 |
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是,委員您說的這個就是涉及到水平分配也就是說我們現在就是在努力水平分配這一塊把差距一直縮小然後讓它共識為更大這就是目前來說分配公式上大家感覺到不均的這個部分所以我們努力的是這一塊過往修法為什麼沒有能夠完成就是因為這一塊的分配始終沒有共識我希望你把你做的這個事情把它入法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》14案：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答 |
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我都沒有意見請你拿出來讓他入法你的基準、你的公式讓他入法我問了三個月我要看到你的版本我希望星期三我可以看到你的版本在我們審查的同時我可以看到你的版本好嗎?謝謝黃委員 |
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也請部長禮拜三還有時間也請盡快禮拜三把你們的版本準備好謝謝現場介紹李燕秀李委員所以請問這堂委員剛剛所宣讀的議事錄的內容有沒有錯誤沒有錯誤好議事錄確定接著繼續質詢請黃國昌黃委員 |
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財政收支劃分法修正草案 |
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收支劃分法修正草案。民進黨在野的時候主張修財政收支劃分法。我之前在質詢的時候其實也帶部長看過那個時候是民主進步黨的主席蘇貞昌率領著他們執政的縣市長出來說財政收支劃分法沒有修正 |
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然後看到這些縣市財政困境就像小孩子嗷嗷待哺米缸空空如也的感受2015年蔡英文在競選總統的時候她有主張要修正財政收支劃分法等到民眾黨執政了以後我們現任的總統賴清德 |
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當初在擔任行政院院長的時候他也承諾要修正財政收支劃分法那到目前為止我們看到的是持續跳跳那2018年的時候啊賴清德行政院長他也承諾要提出院版的草案那目前院版的草案進度如何請教部長 |
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跟委員報告我們財政部已經初步擬了修法的方向然後也請各地方政府就有關分配的指標提出意見相關的差距其實是蠻大而且指標多達30或到50個那我們目前來說是因為趕快要縮小這個差距然後凝聚一個最大的共識這是水平分配的部分跟委員報告沒有我對不起你沒有回答我的問題我說行政院的判斷還要多久 |
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行政院的版本我們必須把共識間凝聚出來所以沒有時間表 |
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當然因為過往也跟剛剛跟黃委員也報告過了過往雖然在88年以後也歷經5次提出《財化法》的修正但是為什麼沒有能夠完成立法就是因為沒有共識所以沒有共識情況下提出立法的版本其實是所以現在財政部的立場我們目的就是要把它完成所以他才不好意思請部長針對問題回答我還是一樣的問題就是 |
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收支劃分法修正草案。目前行政院版本的草案沒有時間表,是嗎?好,你們針對目前財化法的研修方向,你們提出了五個重要的研修方向,這個是你們在5月20號所提出來的版本。那第一個研究方向是擴大中央統籌分配款 |
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的規模。」剛剛你一直都在推給水平分配我們前幾次質詢的時候這些問題都討論過了我們針對問題具體的來談你們所提出的研修方向第一個擴大中央統籌分配稅款的規模那請問你們針對這個研修方向目前的規劃是什麼? |
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跟委員報告擴大統籌分配稅款的規模是我們的一個方向但是在這個規模﹖具體的內容是什麼具體的內容我們必須要去思考第一個我們要考量地方的財政需求是要考量的同時也要考量中央必須要維持一定的財政韌性以及事權有沒有要做調整因為經費跟事權是有相關聯的那這個部分呢我們也會會同主計總結所以現在具體的內容是什麼具體的內容就是跟剛剛委員報告是這樣的 |
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你剛沒有談到任何具體的內容所以現在是沒有具體的內容就對了嗎?沒有具體內容我們來看一下歷經了過去民進黨在野的時候的呼籲民進黨執政的時候的承諾到現在2024年了不分黨派的地方首長都急修大聲的呼籲要修財劃法 |
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我針對財政部在秀給大家數字的時候數字的呈現是一門藝術這個是你們在5月20號的時候所提出的版本嘛你們給大家對嘛,好林志本上面想要跟大家講的是說其實我們中央對地方政府經常性裁員挹注的情況數額不斷在增加嘛 |
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這是你們從2014年到2023年數字增長你們所畫的圖應該沒有錯吧是的就是我們除了統籌分配稅款之外還有加上一般性的補助款來我請教一下部長你們過去這8年統籌分配款佔國稅的比例是增加還是減少不好意思請部長回答 |
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統籌分配款占國稅的比例是增加還是減少?」我一直說啦統計數字的呈現有高度的藝術性當你用絕對值來畫的時候你要告訴全體國人的是中央統籌分配款分配給地方的數額不斷的增加嘛它占國稅的比例是增加還減少 |
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額﹑第一個,絕對數字是增加的,在比例上是唯有下降,但是我們有透過一般性的補助款可以補助。不好意思喔,部長請您繼續去看齁。中央統籌分配款佔國稅的比例逐年下降。2014年的時候,14.64,到現在2023年,去年最新的數字,這不是我算的。 |
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這是財政部的數字算出來的降低到了13.66所以分配給地方中央統籌分配款的比例佔國稅的數額是逐年的在下降剛剛部長提到了補助款一般性的補助款佔國稅的比例是逐年上升還下降怎麼你會比我還不熟 |
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這個部分有高有低啦好來我們再來看一下2014年的時候一般補助款占國稅的比例18.88%從2016年以降有超過這個水平的大概只有2020年占了19.05但 |
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到了2022年、2023年的時候又降到了14.40當統籌分配款分給地方佔國稅的比例每一年下降一般補助款過去8年跟以前比起來所佔的比例一樣在下降我們看最後的這個把統籌分配款跟一般的補助款佔國稅的比例來請部長看一下這個圖 |
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從2014年33.53%到了2023年的時候已經下降多少?到28.06%了這兩根柱子我們分別統籌分配款也好、補助款也好你們在財政部的報告裡面不願意接候的數字是什麼?佔國稅的percentage實際上是什麼?實際上過去這8年跟以前比起來是逐年在下降 |
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那現在問題就來了如果在民進黨執政以前修財政收支劃分法是必要的要去擴大給地方政府的財源是必要的那為什麼在民主進步黨執政以後民民所佔的比例是下降的民民所佔的比例是下降的那現在對於修財劃法的態度 |
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中央政府展現出來的就是能拖就拖嘛!能混就混嘛! |
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來我最後一個最關鍵的問題你剛說有很多版本這個版本我全部都整理出來了有陳水扁時期的政院版有馬英九時期的政院版有馬英九執政時期的時候民眾黨的黨團版針對垂直分配的問題到底要怎麼樣去擴大統籌分配款的財源從陳水扁喔 |
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到馬英九喔到馬英九時期在野的民主進步黨黨團全部都有版本現在我們苦苦在等一直問問不到的是過去8年蔡英文政府徹底跳票因為這是蔡英文總統在2015年提出來的承諾嘛說她過去8年徹底跳票這句話一點說的都沒有錯現在問題來了賴清德總統上任了 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政 |
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公務員報告,對於這個部分我們必須要考量一個時間的不同,中央跟地方的一個財政狀況必須要重新考量。我們剛剛看到具體的數字,就是分配給地方的數額,佔國稅的比例逐年下降啊。 |
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這完全是財政部的data我沒有說錯啊但是中央支出同樣也是增加比如說像社福經費就達到9000多元但整體的經費達到27%還有國防支出所以我覺得這個部分必須要從整體來看沒有關係啦中央有非常多的支出我們都了解中央有非常多的支出我們都了解buffer line是 |
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那新的總統、新的內閣有沒有要像過去一樣的政府負責任的提出行政院的版本?有還是沒有?跟委員報告第一個為過去提出版本為什麼沒有能夠完成修法 |
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就是因為沒有共識就是地方之間分配沒有共識所以我們不好意思喔我現在在問你的是垂直分配的問題垂直分配剛剛也報告過第一個我們會把水平分配這邊調整完以後跟主計總處做整體的討論第一個地方的財政是需要考慮重要的財政認証依然要維持 |
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所以目前財政部的立場是你所謂的共識是過半的縣市有共識就可以還是要所有的縣市都有共識?我們一定要把這個縮小一定讓他達到最大的一個共識所以你的共識指的是什麼?只要有一個縣市提出不同的公式反對財化法就不用修嗎?是這樣嗎?我們也要告訴他原因是什麼讓他能夠接受所以你們的版本什麼時候要提出來? |
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現在這個部分就是在凝聚共識的過程嘛我提的版本大家都沒有共識也沒有用我這樣說好了啦從2018年賴清德當行政院長到現在2024年繼續用沒有共識當作唐賽的理由我個人是沒有辦法接受那沒有關係接下來我們財委會就要召開公聽會進行實質的審查我希望賴清德總統賴清德總統 |
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不要忘了他自己在2018年當行政院院長的時候做出來的承諾現在用水平分配地方政府沒有共識當作藉口連行政院的版本都提不出來謝謝不是藉口謝謝委員謝謝接著請李燕秀、李文芝 |
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我請部長。請莊部長。謝謝部長。部長辛苦了。剛才聽到幾位委員的質詢,還有包括前幾天的質詢,25年沒有修的財劃法。到今天為止,上一次,我想無論是過去的賴清德、賴市長, |
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收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法、財政收支劃分法、財政收支劃分法、財政收支劃分法、財政收支劃分 |
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從今天這幾位委員質詢起來我聽到的感覺就是中央想要集權又要集錢剛才用說地方沒有共識所以沒辦法修過去我也曾聽到這個部長曾經提說修法沒有時間表我覺得你們在玩兩套策略 |
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只要擔任地方的縣市首長,無論是過去的賴市長,包括今天所有各縣不管是哪一個縣市執政,都認為財法法是應該要修的。你講到說修法沒有時間表,特別剛才講到說沒有共識,我剛才也聽到其他委員提到說,你的共識指的是什麼? |
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我們當然希望共識可以極小化、極大化少數一兩個或許有不同意見但是在立法院也好在行政院也好哪一個推出的版本幾乎很少說是百分之百百分之九十八、百分之九十七已經是不錯了 |
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收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、 |
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這些大稅過去幾年成長到百分之一百零四增加稅這幾年玩股票的人很多啊有漲幅的空間地方收到什麼地方收到地價稅、土地增值稅、房屋稅這些佔了總稅的百分之十三而已這些稅漲幅有限所以各縣市每年都RR代補 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查〈立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答 |
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但是我們地方要負責的是什麼?包括人事費的調漲第一年可能中央出第二年中央還不一定百分之百出我們的交通建設我們的社會安全網要地方來支付我們的淨零減碳或者是警政治安還有委辦事項地方知識委辦事項這些項目這幾年不漲 |
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委辦事項的項目越來越多。」所以我剛才提到這是一個不公不義又不仁的版本現在的財劃法它是到了一個非說不得的地步有人說這個是藍白何來包圍中央哪來的藍白何來包圍中央過去民進黨 |
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縣市首長﹖我不知道今天的黃偉哲幾位縣市首長是不是也認為財務法不要修了我希望不要換了一個位置換了一個腦袋因為過去的賴市長也認為應該要修好我們來看一張圖中央挹注地方財源的狀況我們來看下一張 |
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一般補助跟專案的收入以台北市為例大家都說台北市統籌分配稅款最多495億那又加上一個補助的收入179億 |
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合加起來在111年台北市總共收到674億 |
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那我們以台中、高雄來看好了,台中的統籌分配稅管在民國111年是425億,但是它的高雄的補助收入卻達到437億,所以它的總合計中央給它的錢達到862億,所以它的排序是第一。我剛剛為什麼說地方嗷嗷呆不要看中央臉色,以補助收入來說, |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法． |
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但是如果不是一個穩健的地方財源收入長期的中央藝術地方財源收入的話他就不敢大刀闊斧的去做長遠的地方建設的規劃我想部長你非常清楚我在講什麼所以我必須還是要提部長時間表到底有沒有如果沒有共識你還是不打算修嗎 |
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委員沒有共識的話立法怎麼會通過就如過去五度的提出修法版本但是為什麼沒有完成立法的修法的程序就是因為沒有共識所以我們這個部分現在就是一直在做這個努力希望把 |
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努力7年了,不管你是在位幾年,不管你是在這個位置上幾年,努力幾年了。您也對台北市非常的關心,這個部分提出來,因為各地方政府或者也好,都會對他自己所獲得的財源來做努力跟爭取,這個部分我們都完全理解。我希望,我希望明天的公聽會,如果達到 |
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最大的共識大多數的共識我覺得應該要提因為我相信我剛提出來現在25年沒修的財劃法是一個不公不仁又不義的版本還有第二我要再提首都保留的部分我還是要幫台北市提一下台北市我手上之都 |
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不論是在城市的競爭力還有各項經費的支持還有台北市各項營建物料物價等等其實都高於其他的縣市所以我強烈要求在統籌分配的部分要加上首都保留所以這個部分是過去有我強調在這一次也必須要加進來部長我要問另外一個問題前幾天我看到新聞因為你是一個女性的部長 |
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有關於在5月16號的這個關務署的偷拍的事件,針孔偷拍的事件,你們後面到底打算怎麼處理? |
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收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法 |
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都應該通知地方主管機關,而且要懲戒。」我請問你懲戒的結果出來了嗎?出來了。什麼時候出來的?上個禮拜我們經過...那是因為媒體揭露之後你們才出來?好,你不用回答我。那是因為媒體揭露之後才出來?好,我們來看下一張。原來要把它調動的單位。部長。 |
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我們來看下一張,那是上個禮拜審界出來,來給我下一張你們原來要給他調的單位是業務一科最後調任的單位還是在業務一科還是在一個辦公室裡後來是因為媒體揭露了之後你才把他從原來的逐微分官調到這個新單位的什麼業務一組 |
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收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具 |
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移送地檢署,你還是有一定的角色啊!新平三法主管機關,你內部要懲處,要調移動單位,而且新規法你要通知這個事情發生在哪裡?臺北市就要通知臺北市政府啊!勞工局要介入啊!不是只有移送給警察局,你就完全沒事情欸!我們機關內部行政懲處委還有新平審議委員會已經都開始啟動啦! |
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部長這件事情噢造成同仁對你你身為女性部長你處理的大家是非常失望所以我才會在你們同仁裡面內部一個網站上的論壇關注到新生論壇看到大家其實對於這件事情你處理身為女性吧大家是不滿的啦署長你應該知道我在說什麼啦部長可能沒有辦法掌握所有的狀況但是署長你應該知道我在說什麼我覺得 |
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接著請李崑成、李委員質詢。謝謝主席。請莊部長。請莊部長。 |
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財政部也提出了一個修法的方向 |
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財政收支劃分法修正草案 |
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財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續擬具 |
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共識是非常重要,因為過去也曾經五度提出修法的版本,但是也因為沒有共識,所以沒有能夠完成整個修法的一個程序,這個部分我們其實大家都理解。來請部長看幾個數字,這個根據這個111年這個 |
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中央給這個地方的這個統籌分配款的這個數額大概有4千億左右啦然後再加上如果是這個按照國民黨黨團的這個版本還要再釋出這個15%的稅收大概5千億左右合起來大概要9千億的規模啦那這樣子財政部這個對我們財政有沒有影響 |
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財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案：．．．．．．．．．． |
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我們已經給了他們大概5000億左右啦那如果按照國民黨版本還要多增加5000億這樣子我們的中央受得了嗎? |
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收支劃分法 加上一般性的補助款在113年的規模來說已經達到6300多億了。那如果按照我指按照112年的補助的比例來看我們佔他們的稅出的比例已經快接近4成了等於是中央跟地方的稅收的比例已經是6比4嘛,差不多了嘛對不對?對,如果加上還有計劃型的補助款的話幾乎就是 |
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6比4,就是6比4了嗎?我看國民黨現在又要求說中央跟地方的稅收比例要6比4,我看到112年度的這個決算大概已經是6比4的這個比例了啊。對,我們算過這個跟全國的淨稅率的一個淨額來比的話,我們對地方的相關的一些補助等等其實已經到了非常大的比例了。大概有6比4這個比例了嗎? |
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對,地方的收入,地方的收入占全國稅率的淨收,淨額的話達到6比4了。好,那這個我們民進黨執政以來齁,中央統籌分配款占地方的稅率的比例呢,從105年的23.54到112年的27.68 |
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中央一般補助政地方稅率的比例從105年的28.01然後上升到112年的36.25其實說民進黨執政以來我們的這個稅不論是中央的統籌分配款還有一般性的補助比例都是增加的對不對 |
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這個地方政府仰賴中央給予這個統籌分配款也好或一般性補助款也好那是不是也造成了這個地方極度的仰賴中央地方他有這個權利他也可以去收這個地方的稅收啊但是這通過了這個地方稅法通責之後22年來10個縣市只收了169億這也是造成了另外一個地方造成這個依賴這個中央的一個情況啊 |
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確實我們各地方政府各縣市它的人口面積還有自然條件跟公山發展條件的不同當然它的稅源會有不同但是因為所以《財化法》有一個調計營需很重要的一個目的然後均衡區域的發展那為什麼地方的相關的稅率佔的它的總稅率的比例越來越低因為事實上就是等於我們的中央統籌分配稅款跟補助款都加入那個分母也就是說 |
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收支劃分法．．．．．．．．．．．．．． |
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不努力那大家那財政的努力應該給予激勵所以這個部分未來我們在分配公式上我們也希望能夠有這樣的一個指標進來好那看這個水平的這個分配的這個原則來講吼我我這邊吼有這個新北市政府吼建議中央統籌分配款的一個分配公式的指標啦當然財政努力有啦吼 |
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收支劃分法 包括人口數、區域面積、公共運輸、圖書館、國民運動中心。這個是新北市他們希望的分配公式指標。對不對? |
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收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分 |
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收支劃分法 必須保留、必須給!那為什麼一定要給台北市3%保留的這個款項勒?還在吵架了嘛!為什麼台北市要3%?我新北市有5%!我人口最多!我地方最大!可不可以? |
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財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第13會期財政收支劃 |
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財政收支劃分法修正草案案 |
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當然他會如果你把中央統籌分配稅款這樣子的做而事權沒有做調整因為錢跟事權是一定是相對應的那事權要不要同樣做調整這個就是也要考慮的事情那你中央沒有財政韌性那將來面臨緊急的需要的時候要怎麼因應 |
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收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法� |
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財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查〈立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答 |
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主席有請總部長還有陳主席長請總部長還有陳主席長委員好部長好部長你剛剛提到因為過去經過5次的修法都沒有辦法修成那歷經了20幾年那看起來你要再一次的諮詢地方政府的財政單位那預計是這個會期會提還是下個會期會提 |
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委員報告,這個部分我就講說沒有時間表,為什麼?因為目前的差距還很大,我們盡量縮小。可是已經瀕臨沉下了,那個部長已經瀕臨沉下了,在野黨如果按照那職權行使法的方式強行要碾壓的話,再這樣拖下去,你的統籌分配款就會沒有了,你知道嗎?你不擔心嗎? |
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收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 |
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這如果是5777億的影響數是真的很大他對我們在中央總預算的籌編是有困難的因為我們目前初步大家114年大家報的一個大概是有3兆2000多億的一個蓋章難道那個籌編有困難難道要舉債嗎 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第2會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第3會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第4會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第5會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第6會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第7會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第8會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第9 |
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地方制度法還有什麼法? |
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財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法財政收支劃分法財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法� |
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公債法裡面當然最主要第一個就是有一個債限對有一個債限這也跟地方的財政有所關聯嘛對不對所以舉凡跟地方財政相關的看不當當至少有這四個法要處理嘛你是不是要拿出四個法的配套方式才有可能來健全地方的財政而不是只有從財法法存資思考來取得更多的中央預算而已對不對 |
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是,委員說的是,也就是說在垂直分配這一塊除了要求把稅款要撥出這麼多,但是要考慮事權。對,所以說部長、部長、主席長,我是說你不要陷入現在齁,國眾兩黨的這一個思維。 |
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即是說我們如果真的要健全地方財政的話要從這樣的思維來做思考的話我們這四個法都要處理嘛 對不對如果四個法都要處理的話你就要提出我們的整個版本這才是真的為了地方的這個財政健全來做思考更何況他說比例失衡你要去思考最近的比例失衡的原因在哪裡啊最近國稅增加比較多還是地方稅增加比較多 |
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收支劃分法修正草案． |
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稅增加稅確實增加了很多。對,然後你看看這兩年的這個補助款來看,也高達八千多億喔,真正地方缺口大概是五百多億嘛,對不對?從預算估計的話大概五百五左右嘛。我跟你算過啦,老實說,在當年啦,1999年的時候,那時候經審之後的財法法通過的時候, |
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我們有一個比例上有凹到地方的部分就是原來我們營業稅的部分中央的部分大概是50%佔比大概50%經過之後營業稅的部分中央變佔60% |
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所以說大概我算過只要你這10%挪過去之後再多了500多億出來這地方就不至於負債了就不至於負債最起碼你修法的目標不要造成地方上的一個負擔嘛不要造成地方上的負擔這是第一個要展現出來的誠意然後你看中央地方搶錢大作戰你看喔民眾黨大概多了300多億這個銀索稅這個多這個5%這根本是高雄安條款嘛 |
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銀索稅條款、國民黨3%首都條款、蔣安安條款。剛剛李昆城擔心說新北市,新北市裡頭人口佔比的部分以國民黨的版本有佔67%之多。 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續擬具 |
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版本以人口數為做一個很重的一個指標,確實會變成人口多的地方政府分配的會更大。對啊,這人口數最多的就是新北嘛,台北嘛,台中嘛,對不對?所以說整個版本是後國民黨執政嘛,清民進黨執政嘛,受到那個,受到 |
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難搞嘛 對不對分配商會變成這樣子嗎不是嗎那這樣子你剛剛提到說統籌分配款的部分是為了整個均衡發展嘛政策目標是這樣子嘛所以我是覺得你接下來提出來的時候一定要去以正式聽的部分是說統籌分配如果是這個目標不是這樣子處理的橫向的分配來說過往我們的統籌分配就是太偏重於都會了以前過多偏重於都會整個 |
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農村地區,像我所在的台南,偏種的部分,即便上農地只能農用,都市的土地都能夠建造房子,配置上去本來就不公平啊,部長 |
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你接下來的修法有沒有可能打破這個框架,達到一個均衡的發展?沒錯,中央統籌分配稅款的目的就是在於調劑營需,因為各地方政府的自然條件不同,工商條件也不同,所以這個部分就是要我們在水平分配上要能夠做到調劑營需跟區域均衡發展,這是非常重要的。我跟你講,部長,我再提醒一下,我想依照那個國民黨也好,那個民眾黨也好,他們唯一正當性的理由在哪裡? |
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收支劃分法修正草案案。但是呢,不具正當性的理由是財法法不能亂修。不能只有以執政縣市的自己執政縣市的這個觀點來做分配而已。對不對? |
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是沒有錯嗎?要去考慮這個整個的一個平衡性。整個平衡性嘛。對。如果是這樣平衡性的思考,你在思考架構這個思維的時候,你要有一定的說服力。地方或許有不同的意見,地方會有本位思考的考量,地方想要爭取比較多的自有財源,這都屬正常啊。當地方都屬正常的情況底下,最後還是部長你的版本你要拍板定案,從你的部的版本形成出來之後,你才有可能送到院嘛,對不對? |
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所以說你還是要抓一個時間點嘛你不能用一個沒有時間表做一個理由說法嘛你很難說服目前立法院有版本提出版本的相關的黨團嘛部長了解但是我們現在就努力在做努力這個部分把共識一定要把它凝聚出來那也沒時間表 |
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那就要看大家共識什麼時候可以達成了因為沒有共識的情況下縱使推出版本也沒有辦法完全修法我是覺得你要推出版本的同時就如同我剛剛所講的你要適時的把部分的地方制度法的一個條文或者地方稅法通責的條文還有包括公債法的這個條文的部分重點條文的部分你要納入啦,可以不可以? |
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但是因為地方制度法涉及到內政部的一個權責對當然啦一部分我當然知道地方制度法是內政部的權利啊但是有很多大部分的法案都是你主政的嘛你主政的範圍你先思考嘛可以不可以是當然有關那個地方稅法通則我們也可以再來做檢視對啊像他這種法修過之後有一些馬祖地區整年的預算才44億光中央補助統籌分配款將來通過之後會就超過100億欸你想一下子稅收增加double他要怎麼執行 |
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財政基率很重要所以你要把這些不合理性你要一一列舉出來嘛 對不對所以我現在本委員會當中部分黨派基本上都認為要修啦但是問題是怎麼修的問題啦怎麼修的根結點還是來自於這部的一個基本上的一個指標嘛好不好那最後我要問一下主計長齁主計長 |
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稅務署的訓練中心 |
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連這一個規劃費用的維修費用都拿不出錢來還要四成跟新北市要四成的跟文化部要他只能拿出兩成花了三年的時間修復費用還高達一億多一個文化資產超過120年的文化資產就放在旁邊 |
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主委長,你上任之後能不能來解決這個問題啊?我能來協助解決。協助處理好不好?是。這國家資產、文化資產是屬於大家的啊。不能丟個部會當中去那邊傷腦筋啊。該花的錢要花。他不可能台北市政府跟你接管啊。一波接管。你沒有修好之前他不可能一波接管嘛。部長這件事情你也麻煩你放在心上好不好?莊部長。好的,是的。好,謝謝兩位,謝謝。謝謝委員。好,謝謝。 |
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稍後請王宏威、王委員質詢。王宏威、王委員質詢。 |
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財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續 |
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在5月15號在高雄市議會陳其邁市長在議會答詢的時候公開喊話韓國瑜院長要求韓國瑜院長要幫忙修正才劃法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案,包括黃偉哲市長之前也看到,他也特別提到,他也認為財化法應該把柄做大。所以現在財化法要修正,絕對不是只有國民黨跟民眾黨提出而已,其實很多綠營執政的縣市的首長他們也非常希望能夠做修正,因為實在是太久沒有修正了。 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會 |
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跟委員報告,財化法的修正其實我們已經開始在作業也就是我們已經出擬了修法的一個原則同時也請地方政府就於分配指標的部分提出意見所以並不是在拖那上次呢我們跟卓院長之間也都有對這些事情都會有討論那這部分的分配的公式我們必須要凝聚共識所以我要確定一下 |
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稿員長已經有正式跟你提到要推動修正才劃法了嗎?我想這個是我們團隊裡面的一些內部的討論,是。所以看起來還沒有,因為有的話你就會說有了。 |
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所以這就是拖呀?在這個議題已經連陳其邁、高雄市長都已經拜託韓院長也很奇怪他為什麼拜託韓院長他應該去拜託卓院長才對啊對不對?因為15號已經知道卓榮泰要當行政院院長了所以他很奇怪他應該去跟卓榮泰說所以剛才我看到很多委員都有在追問說那你們什麼時候拿出你們的版本啊但是你好像都沒有任何的回應 |
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因為每一次都是只要說你們沒有共識然後就不修正所以一拖拖25年了那我覺得在這一次其實已經勢在必行第一個時間實在是太長了而且現在其實要修正也是完全是突破藍綠白都有共識應該要做修正 |
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剛才比如講說哇國民黨的版本怎麼樣怎麼樣是獨厚獨厚藍營執政縣市等等之類的但是重點是你們趕快提出版本啊提出版本大家才一可以一起來做併案討論那你們不提出版本而不能夠因為你遲遲不提出版本然後財劃法就原地不動好我們來看一下為什麼這個財劃法修正已經是這個見在懸賞勢在必行 |
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支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法� |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法 並不是由中央買單,而是要由地方來買單。所以也造成這幾年每到選舉之後,地方的財政支出,他們等於要重新編列預算。 |
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財政收支劃分法 |
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審計部所提出的就是這幾年的地方,比如剛開始地方還會特別的一直來配合來編這個自籌款可是呢隨著這個時間的這樣子一年一年的過去而地方能夠自籌的能力事實上是一直下降的所以他們的自籌率可能從原來的八成然後一步一步的下降大概在前年只有六成左右 |
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好,我這個要特別提出來的,剛才在說呀,就是我們這個財劃法是在獨厚藍營的執政縣市,不是的,絕對不是的因為大家都知道,其實我們現在整個的財政結構是中央集錢又集權 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會期財政 |
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竟然高達14個縣市他的自籌財源比例是低於三成以下。」部長,你應該知道我在講什麼。如果一個縣市他的自籌財源占他的稅出到三成以下的時候,這代表什麼?這代表他只有養中央的鼻息嘛。他要靠著中央給他補助。 |
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是不是委員所以這就是為什麼自籌中央一直都不願意真正的來修正才劃法不是自籌財源是屬於他自己的不包含統籌分配稅款所以統籌分配稅款加進去以後他就成為他的自有財源因為統籌分配稅款是同地方的稅客收入就好所以 |
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這就是補助款就是掌握在中央的手上而這個補助款就可以隨著中央甚至各部會甚至看藍綠來辦事別說我們以112年112年中央挹注在地方的財源按統籌稅款再加上補助收入那我們統籌稅款哪一個縣市是最高啊 |
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高雄市 高雄市就如同前瞻過去審計部也特別提出整個的前瞻在補助裏面高雄市拔得頭籌第一名啊我們台北市呢其實比高雄市大概只有高雄市的十分之一啊高雄超過一千億然後台北市呢就一百多億可以看看委員加上一般性補助款台北市依然是最高的 |
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希望把籌款能夠他這個大餅整個做大而不要處處的去養中央比席比如說剛才特別提到馬祖哇說馬祖這次可能他會增加很多如果你今天看我剛才講說同樣的我們自籌財源比例其實真的啦我們真的說不是只有芬蘭綠比如說在嘉義縣、屏東縣都是綠營執政的縣市對不對 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法修正草案》案。 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具 |
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收支劃分法 還有民眾黨執政的新主事我們拿來一起談而且大家也願意讓利因為大家知道最重要的目標是要讓中央能夠把錢、把這個大餅給地方比較多一點否則自己本身吵來吵去正中下懷 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會 |
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我們在16個縣市彼此也會要爭啊我多一點你多一點可是大家覺得說我們願意讓利願意讓利但是重點是把大餅做大如果大家有這樣的共識你其實推出來並不難啦好不要再用各種理由去推脫不會推脫謝謝委員好謝謝現在請吳立華吳委員 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查:「財政 |
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提升財政自主、劃一分配基礎、調記財政營儲、保障既有財源、精進分配機制。」那這個當中是提到我們的原則就是希望不要讓富者更富,那不要讓窮者更窮,很好。那我是想要請教說,這個五原則是不是跟地方政府一起討論出來的? |
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財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 |
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以及強化財政紀律。」我想這個部分都要考慮到的我們幾個原則先提出來。所以部長這些原則很好,但是我聽起來就是財政部自己的一個規劃跟想法。那我比較想知道有沒有去蒐證地方政府的意見? |
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財政收支劃分法 財政收支劃分法 |
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那我們原住民鄉在這個六都當中整併的過程當中他曾經一度失去了公法人的地位在2014年修法之後呢恢復公法人地位但是問題很多那我在這裡呢想要請教一下 |
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我們以桃園區公所他是高雄市六都園區或一般的縣市來相比其實他在合併的時候他的稅客收入瞬間轉零取消那我在3月的時候我也曾經質詢過想要請教一下園民會紅副處長這個問題園民會有沒有掌握看法是什麼 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續 |
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其實呢在2014年我們在修帝制法83條之二第一項的時候我們有寫到準用本法關於鄉鎮市之規定 |
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稅捐公共債不見了。」可是呢,我們去查當時黨團協商的時候財政部有承諾原住民區的財政自治有承諾。好,那我們來細看一下 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政 |
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收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等23人分別擬具:「財政 |
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收支劃分法修正草案． 結果呢我們如果不修法這樣的情形就會一直維持所以呢我也提出了版本提出了修法的內容那很簡單就是把漏掉的補進去把直轄式的山地園區納進來就可以了這是我的修法版本 |
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收支劃分法。可是我在3月7號的時候財政部的業務報告詢答我要求說要跟直轄市原民區公所單獨開會聽取他們的意見並納入修法那我想要問部長目前辦理的情形如何 |
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委員報告我們在進一步的釐清這因為就是如同剛剛委員所說的對於直轄市的原民區的一個部分因為在地制法裡面的規定原民區裡面的財政自治事項只包含了所謂的 |
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財產的經營處分以及稅率的部分,但並不包含稅捐及公債,所以他的財政自治事項裡面不包含這個。至於來化法裡面,他的財政層級就沒有辦法把他放進去。 |
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第一個我看到你們3月14號有發文發給有園區的四個直轄市新北市政府桃園、台中、高雄但是這個跟我的本意跟問題不同我是指直轄市的山地原住民區公所我希望能夠找他們單獨開會來聽取他們的意見所以部長這個部分我們可以怎麼樣彌補嗎 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續擬具 |
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招集人、召委有邀各縣市政府來嗎?可以一起邀嗎?直轄市的園區、園住民、區公所那您是提到說會跟內政部一起邀嗎? |
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對。我要提的就是說我也有看到專報裡面你們有說武力華委員等17人提案你說以由內政部審慎評估尋修正地質法來推動那我要跟您說對 |
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我也同步提案修正了。這個是我的地制法第83條之3,我也有做修法版本了,那目前也已經送出去了,就是把原來漏掉的升格之前應分配的稅捐跟公共再放進去了。所以我想這個部分就麻煩部長,因為這個問題 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．第2會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．第3會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查〈一、繼續審查〉 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法修正草案：立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法 |
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稻地、我們這些地方財政的統籌稅跟特別預算的補助款我很想要這10年來的資料讓我可以準備後續的審查那這個資料可以拿到我辦公室嗎?是,我們會送給委員 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續財政收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續財政 |
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收支劃分法．．．．．．．．． |
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收支劃分法修正草案案。 |
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這個已經送到院會準備要三讀通過那當時也跟部長拜託我們一定要來協助怎麼樣免稅那我相信內政部這邊一定要請教財政部的意見那現在這個版本出去是里長可以免稅那我代表全台灣的里長謝謝部長這邊提議那今天要討論的部分也要跟部長請議的部分五月才剛報完稅那過去我們都知道111年 |
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稅收超徵4000億、112年稅收超徵3671億。請問今年剛報完稅5月份,這個部長有沒有認為今年會大概超收稅收多少錢? |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會 |
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財政收支劃分法 |
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對,在112年我們執行全民共享那我相信很多委員也有提到那去年超出了3600億會發6000塊給民眾嗎?去年超出預算數3600億是含中央跟地方其實中央大概超出預算數大概是2000多億2900億所以有考慮發普發現金嗎? |
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財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法修正草案．立法院第三屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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超徵稅收顧民司也要把稅收還給全民所以就是我們所說的這個統籌分配款人數我認為是一個很重要的一個概念請教部長我們為什麼要討論這個新北市有400萬的人口請問一下現在全台灣22個縣市哪一個縣市人均統籌分配還分配給中央分給地方人均是最低的六都裡面哪一個縣市最低 |
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先跟委員報告稅收沒有所謂超徵因為每一塊錢都是按照法律收是我們的實徵數超過了預算數對,我剛剛跟部長的概念就是說我們把它累積到財政的韌性裡面其實也是為全民在做財務的一個韌性 |
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支劃分法修正草案．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員許宇甄等22人分別擬具:「財 |
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相符。」而且你們在報告裡面也寫說在國民黨的提案裡面你也說分配公室以人口指標為主,亦導致人口數較多的縣市獲配顯著優於其他同縣市 |
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人口數本來就是一個統籌分配稅款裡面指標之一但是我們知道有的版本裡面把人口數的全數拉得很高的話會讓人口多的地方會增加的數額會比較高 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第2會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第3會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第4會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第5會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第6會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第7會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第8會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第9會期財政收支劃分法� |
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所以我要報告部長就是說現在剛剛跟部長報告新北市已經是六都最低而且是全台灣22縣市最低這個財劃法已經25年沒有修所以這個問題已經累積了20幾年了新北市整體的建設真的是有被拖緩那我再跟部長請教因為剛剛我有聽部長其實你們非常認真已經在研議了現在不管是國民黨跟民眾黨的版本針對營業稅的部分 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政 |
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分法原則裡有一個提升財政自主,這個部分會增加統籌分配稅款的規模。自己怎麼樣的去從哪一個稅務上面去做比例性的調整,這個是要等到我們的分配公式計算出來後,看需要的一個額度是多少再來做調整。 |
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稍微得知有透露出來就是要把營業稅來做一個修正的一個動作要還稅於民所以希望說部長這部分繼續一起努力趕快把版本做出來我相信這個才是全民之福而且幫新北市民來謀福利以上謝謝 |
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好謝謝委員是的謝謝我們結束張志榮委員接下來請羅明才召委主席各位委員處理了習慣運動好主席有請莊部長主席長部長你好委員好 |
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我們是夥伴關係都很多都要攜手一起努力的是既然是夥伴關係我們就是成為你好我好大家一起好的好夥伴是的今天很高興有22縣市財政相關的都來了財政局都來了那是不是請問一下要尊重他們的意見如果說不缺錢的不缺錢的請舉手 |
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財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查第2會期 |
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當你問他們說大家現在目前的財務狀況是缺的這是缺的好請問裡面覺得覺得已經快窒息了快受不了了最缺的請舉手最缺的啦趕快啊你們舉手就找部長要錢啊好喔很勇敢你要說出欸那個是哪一個地方 |
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金門所以我們可以感受到缺的是金門那有沒有不缺的不缺的請舉手好另外剛還有一個覺得比較缺的是哪一個地方我們在考量的時候要給予尊重因為是夥伴關係部長要多照顧他照顧金門還有哪裡比較缺的請舉手不要放棄不要客氣 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》14案：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》14案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》14案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》15案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》16案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》16案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》16案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》16案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》16案．一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委員會第16次全體委 |
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臺北市政府臺北市政府來缺多少金額啊是因為現在建設都很多啦尤其包括現在的基層銷售改進還有直接講了齁你希望一年可以多補助你多少一年啊一年這個金額恐怕還是要大概一百億五十億都隨便你講沒關係如果可以的話因為建設也就是很需求也很急的話大概可以的話一年多個兩百億的話一年多兩百億謝謝臺北市下一個 |
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委員好,我是桃園市政府代表。是。那桃園是最晚升格的直轄市,那因為它的統籌加一般性補助款都是六都最低的。是。那一般性補助款呢,排名甚至排名到第17、第18名。所以統籌的部分你希望一年可以增加多少?嗯,統籌的部分因為我們相較台北市陸陣有大概 |
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相較剛剛臺北市的代表發言,其實我們統籌這幾年升格以後大概少了上千億,那其實我們沒有要要求那麼多,我們至少希望達成跟六都的平均數一樣就好了。平均數大概多少?直接講沒關係啦,直接講。是,大概差了大概五百多億。五百多億,好,謝謝陶淵五百億。欸那個 |
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幫我記一下來,第三個反正你們都講然後缺多少我們來想辦法是一千億、兩千億這樣才有辦法來進行嘛不然每次大家天馬行空講不完的那沒有上來的謝謝你們就不要來,下一個委員大家好那我是代表新竹縣新竹來,差多少那目前我們各項經驗需求大概至少都還有缺口大概上百億所以至少希望有一百億以上一百億謝謝,下一位 |
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委員好,我是南投縣政府的代表,因為這幾年就是南投縣的建設也是很多,對,沒錯,所以對我們的其實各項的那個收入其實都影響很大,這邊的話希望增加多少?至少就是要有50億以上。幾億?50億。好,50億謝謝,南投50億,下一個。 |
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委員好,我這邊是新北市政府代表,那我們新北市真的是人口最多,那因為很多各項建設都要支出,所以我們真的缺口是缺很多錢啦,然後每年的那個預算差短也都是差了一百多億,那我們真的缺口我們是少了真的是五六百億啦。五六百億,那就六百億好了,好不好? |
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公務長請你聽一聽他們的心聲因為新北是差最多的以前縣的時候就覺得縣是慘兮兮、嗷嗷待哺升格成為直轄市了以後真的比起來差太多了我們沒有 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法 |
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委員好,我是花蓮縣政府的代表。對,花蓮是災區,然後它是全國面積最大的。所以我們基層、基礎工程和道路橋樑還有排水工程,我們是非常非常…沒關係,那這個需要缺多少?對,我們至少100億。100億,花蓮100億,謝謝。下一位。 |
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委員好,我是金門縣的代表。金門,對,缺多少?那,金門縣因為它現在連金門大橋還有自來水,像這些在台灣縣市都是屬於中央負擔的,可是在金門都要由金門負擔。是。那我們希望說每年可以增加20億。20億而已?小事情齁?好,我們要聽進去了。下一個。 |
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稍微好,我是台中市代表因為台中市的目前來講是重大工程齊聚的在最近幾年會有一個大幅度的一個需求所以我們台中市的部分收支差短的部分大概是差應該要有300億 |
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幾億?300億。謝謝。那也不多啦。因為你知道我們前幾年的稅收超徵4500億啊。我是要幫各地方找錢啊。再沒有錢再來找我。我還有很多地方可以幫部長找錢的。下一個。委員好。我是雲林縣代表。我們雲林縣在每年的在雲林縣內的徵取的稅收有700多億。可是我們雲林縣 |
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再加上中央給我們的一般性補助款、特別的補助款統統被稅款加了、統統加進來以後也只能預算只能到400億而已。是。所以差多少?所以這個收支的落差我們是多貢獻了300多億在那。可是我們雲林縣有一些特別的犧牲比如說我們的六親的重大的那個工業的污染的承受 |
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所以大概均衡一下,你們覺得你差多少?一年?最少一百億。一百億,謝謝。下一位。委員好,我是新竹市政府的代表。那新竹市是因為是科學園區的所在地,那我們創造了高額的稅收,但是營利事業所的稅跟綜合所的稅都是國稅,我們都上繳中央了。沒錯。但是我們新竹市配回的統籌分配稅跟一般性補助款的配回率是全國最低的。 |
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收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查 |
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委員你好,這裡是苗栗縣代表那因為我們苗栗縣的部分呢在那個營酒稅的這一塊呢就是算是上繳的這個稅收是比較多的但是回饋給我們苗栗的話相對於就是其他縣市比起來是差異非常大那我們也希望說可以在這個部分可以再多增加給我們差不多一百億一百億謝謝苗栗下一個 |
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委員好,這邊是嘉義市的代表。那我們這邊的話,因為像我們嘉義市在做鐵路高架化,目前因為工程款也是大額的增加,自籌需要增加很多,然後加上基本建設,我們也在蓋一個永續綠能循環中心等等的一些需要,所以大概缺口是100億左右。 |
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因為黃市長特別關心啊因為這個都不分藍綠地方就是民眾需要做的中央就大力支持嘛所以你們這個部分我也會大力來請委員大家支持謝謝你下一位委員好我是基隆市代表基隆市我們現在就是捷運也還正在就是有需要大筆的經費所以我們希望大概有90到100 |
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大概5億左右幾億部長馬上給他了啦5億然後一直每次都說溝通有困難你說你是哪一個地方連江馬祖連江馬祖5億好啦馬上給啦好謝謝請回那那個秘書長總共接下來多少你算一下所以部長我要告訴你的 |
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我們每天講天說地加一加大概沒有超過兩千億啦然後一副苦哈哈講東講西各位敬愛的全國民眾全山少花一點就有錢了各位民眾大家想想看這不過一兩千億的事情就解決了為什麼做脫了25年 |
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不是本席說要做不做是小英總統說要做蘇貞昌老縣長說要做賴清德總統以前說過通通要做我們為什麼不放下政黨之見站在民眾思考的立場就幫他們一下吧前瞻8800億在這邊沒有幾分就通過了加起來多少2600億吧 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續擬具 |
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請他們在所有立委面前看到底缺什麼缺多少金額我們一起來幫他嘛就如同你剛剛講的中央地方什麼關係是夥伴關係嘛有什麼不能講有什麼不能說的拜託部長要面對這個問題了最後主計長去年稅收啊又超徵3000億左右拜託啊苦民所苦啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[295].text |
現在經濟通膨物價飆漲得很厲害拜託今年每個人普發現金一萬塊好不好 |
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| transcript.whisperx[296].text |
收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查 |
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對,他現在目前事業上的電價之後還是不夠所以我們還是要補助一千億所以追加一千億就所以我們整個累計的剩餘目前才剩下六百多億謝謝以上一個人普派現金一萬塊缺的錢我來告訴部長謝謝 |
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好,謝謝我們找羅明才委員的質詢。剛才總共有17個縣市,總共缺口是2575億。這個可以好好思考地方缺口的狀況。好,謝謝。我們接下來請曾振淺委員。謝謝主席,然後請一下莊部長。 |
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委員好部長好剛剛聽到我們羅明才召委其實他把17個縣市的缺口提出來問的時候其實我覺得很具體那我這邊大概也要再針對新竹市這個部分再多做一些補充的一個發言跟爭取 |
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整個新竹這邊新竹市這邊他每一年創稅1800億當時市長提出來的數字是這樣子他覺得得到的統籌分款非常的少所以他認為整個財化法分配不公所以他希望主張從第四法這邊的時候去做合併那最主要合併升格的理由就是因為錢分配不均財化法分配不均這個部分部長應該還有記憶猶新嘛對不對 |
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收支劃分法修正草案。 |
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收支劃分法修正草案。 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查 |
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限制的平衡、中央地方的平衡還有各縣市當中的平衡是很重要的一個部分是很重要的一個部分那我在想說針對這個部分的時候我要特別提到以新竹市來講的時候剛剛就是新竹市的代表他很客氣地講說他只要再多100億剛剛在我們羅明才招委問的時候新竹市、新竹縣、苗栗都提100億其實坦白說非常的保守我們剛剛 |
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公共交通運輸6.1%公共交通運輸6.1% |
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系統進來。」我給部長看一下我們大新竹建設大新竹輕軌這是中央的一個計畫 |
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基本上我們看光看錢的部分就好因為今天財政委員這邊在提新竹市這邊他要自己負擔就要197.6億總預算354.82億那麼工程款包括自償非自償的部分還有用地費整個加起來就要197.6億坦白說新竹市根本負擔不起 |
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所以你會發現有很多的計劃跟建設中央在推地方的配額款永遠跟不上以新竹市坦白說整個財務結構都算是比較優等的一個縣市的時候都還沒有辦法分配的時候那其他的縣市就更慘那在這個情況之下的時候我再舉一個我們在5月底的新竹市發生大火 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第11會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第2會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第3會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第4會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第5會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第6會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第7會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第8會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第9會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第10會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法� |
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那針對新竹市這個部分我給部長稍微講一下這是112年度的一個數字全國的所得稅一兆8346億新竹市貢獻了3067億佔16.7%可是新竹市112年的統籌分配稅款在全國4227億當中只分配到63.5億只佔了1.5%部長你覺得這樣子合理嗎 |
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在新竹市裡面其實我們的分配公式裡面都還有一個營利事業的營業額這個部分其實新竹市在這個部分它佔比是比較大的其實相對它也能夠貨配比較多當然今天以這個數據來看各地方政府都會說我為什麼都分配那麼少這個也就是說我們在水平分配的時候必須要提出一個非常好的一個分配公式 |
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收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具、「財 |
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收支劃分法修正草案．．．．． |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答：一、繼續詢答： |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法有部分的比例能夠留在地方那本席這邊會提一個修正動議我提出是25%那至於能夠有多少%我覺得我們大家可以討論可是因為以目前我們看起來就新竹市在整個中央 |
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所得稅的貢獻度跟統籌分法真的是不成比例我們希望能夠有適當的一個所得稅的比例能夠留在地方然後能夠讓整個地方直接享受到整個努力的一個成果那當然水平分配垂直分配我們都得兼顧但新竹市這個部分我必須要特別幫新竹市發聲剛剛新竹市代表提到說一百億坦白說其實是很 |
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保守很客氣的一個說法因為事實上我們現在對整個大新竹輕軌的部分完全沒有錢去推這個部分然後縣市當中新竹縣也提100億新竹縣市當中還有好幾座橋要去做連結都沒有辦法現在光是竹北到科學園區短短可能一點多公里的路 |
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收支劃分法 可能在上班時間會拖到30分鐘。這個就是因為整個地方資源不足,沒有辦法讓整個基礎建設做更好的一個發展。所以在這邊提出以上的主張,以上。謝謝委員,謝謝。我跟委員也報告一下,所得稅就在地方直接分成的話,那您知道台北市的所得稅佔了全國所得稅的4成,那另外有些地方政府,有10個地方政府,國稅跟地稅通通給他, |
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收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法 |
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特別針對新竹市所處的一個狀態,能夠特別加以做一個調整。以上。謝謝,因為委員為新竹爭取權益,我們理解。是,謝謝。好,謝謝。謝謝部長,謝謝。接著請徐欣穎徐欣穎徐仁不在。請紐許廷、紐委員。 |
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收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法：一、繼續擬具:「財政收支劃分法：一、繼續擬具:「財政 |
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收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法 |
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每一屆每一屆地方政府其實都希望財政收支劃分法趕快來做修正因為基本上中央集權又集錢讓地方的財政負擔沉重衍生很多很多的問題喔那我就想問部長這麼長的時間20幾年大家都在大聲疾呼的時候請問為什麼到現在我們都還看不到民進黨政府執政的院板請部長回答 |
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謝謝委員,委員剛剛提出來國外的一個分層那也跟委員報告這涉及到有關的一個事權的一個分配也就是中央比如他們以聯邦跟邦之間那就事權要怎麼分配因為垂直的分配裡面必須事權跟錢必須要相對應這是一個那第二個剛剛委員提到就是說為什麼這麼長的時間為什麼財劃法沒有能夠修正那也就跟第一個就是沒有共識 |
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曾經也五度提出過修法的版本但是因為在水平分配的部分各地方政府對於希望能夠為他自己的縣區爭取更大的一個裁員所以沒有辦法達成共識所以版本提出來沒有共識情況下依然是沒有辦法完成修法所以目前來說我們也就是在凝聚這個共識我們希望把共識凝聚起來以後提出來的版本那才能夠完成修法的程序 |
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是在每一年每一年啊這個我們的中央政府都大聲疾呼說我們要凝聚共識凝聚共識講一大堆可是事實上就是從112年最新的資料顯示喔這個國庫的稅收3兆分配到地方只剩下28%103年的時候這個數字是35%你每一年沒有共識沒有共識結論就是從35%萎縮到28%這個狀況跟問題越來越嚴重來下一張 |
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這個曾經民進黨政府執政的財政部長蘇建榮也曾經表示,草案法要修正有四大原則要兼顧,第一規模要擴大,第二直轄市跟縣市標準一致,第三考量區域平衡,第四考量地方政府的財政努力程度給予補助,所以你不是沒有指導綱領嗎?你其實該有的原則其實早就都有了,那你說要百分之百的共識,恐怕 |
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問題也很大也很難達到但沒關係嘛現在國民黨黨團已經有提版本國民黨黨團加上在野執政縣市總共16個縣市這16個縣市有直轄市有縣市有偏鄉有離島也有都會其實我認為已經具備了充分的代表性 |
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按照我們黨團版本的草案去做設算跟規劃的時候其實民進黨政府執政的地方縣市台南、高雄其實他貨配的數量也有提升所以我覺得這樣子的一個草案其實已經很接近所謂的地方共識了我希望財政部如果你真的提不出來我覺得也不要耽誤法案的審查該審就審了啦財政部部長你有什麼想法嗎?你看過現在的草案了沒有? |
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收支劃分法修正草案．一、繼續審查 |
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我覺得你這樣來要去,那結論到底你什麼時候才算得出一個結果來?您是指說計算是嗎?對啊,你剛剛講說我們應該這幾天就可以把它算出來,就是各個版本分配下來會是怎麼樣一個情況,我們可以試算出來,但是因為有些指標並不明確,但是我們就設法以假設的方式來算。好,反正沒關係,這個法案現在開始進入實質的審查啦。 |
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收支劃分法：一、繼續審查財政收支劃分法 |
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政府換了位置就換了腦袋因為我提醒一下部長我們現在的總統剛上任的這個賴清德總統在2017年他做行政院長的時候他其實就說要均衡地方發展的三個方向第一個叫行政區重劃第二叫修正財劃法第三叫地方創生 |
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他到院長卸任的時候都沒有結果那他現在當總統了總該有結果啦他如果沒有辦法有結果我們就幫他有結果那我希望部長就積極的來配合我們不要耽擱法案的審議可以嗎? |
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財政財政財政財政 |
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接著請吐泉吉、吐泉吉、吐泉吉、吐委員不在請邱洛華、邱洛華、邱洛華、邱委員不在請萬美玲、萬美玲、萬美玲、萬委員不在請羅廷偉、羅廷偉、羅廷偉、羅廷偉、羅委員不在好那牛委員等一下 |
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收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具、「財政 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法．一、繼續審查 |
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一、說明及詢答完畢。二、委員質詢未及答覆或請補充資訊。請相關部會於一週內以書面答覆。違令要求期限者從其所定。三、委員萬美玲、邱振軍、羅廷偉、廖先祥所提書面質詢。委員牛 |
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許庭所提書面補充資料均列入記錄、刊登公報並請相關部會以書面答覆。四、本日會議若不在場委員補題書面質詢,一併列入記錄、刊登公報並請議事人員協助處理。 |
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發針對討論事項今日將先宣讀條文及修正動議。台灣民眾黨黨團擬具財政收支劃分法修正草案等17案尚未審查完均,將則其繼續審查。 |
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現在請議事委員宣讀台灣民眾黨黨團擬具財政收支劃分法修正草案等17案請宣讀宣讀財政收支劃分法修正草案等17案條文補充一下我們宣讀完畢以後再休息請宣讀 |
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第一章總綱未修正第一條未修正台灣民眾黨黨團提案第二條中華民國各級政府財政收支劃分及條據依本法之規定委員許宇甄等16人提案第二條委員洪孟楷等22人提案第二條及委員羅明才等23人提案第二條第一項均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第二條 |
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委員羅明才等23人提案第二條徵定第二項各級政府財政收支之條據在中央與地方政府間應考量基本財政需求及資源運用效能上級政府對於下級政府之財政資源應以均衡區域發展為原則委員吳立華等17人提案第三條第四款修正為鄉鎮縣轄市及直轄市三地原住民區 |
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以下簡稱鄉鎮市區區域均同現行碼條文委員許宇甄等16人提案第4條國民黨黨團提案第4條委員丁學中等17人提案第4條委員洪孟楷等22人提案第4條委員羅明才等23人提案第4條均予以刪除 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第4條及委員許宇甄等16人提案第4條之一均同委員羅明才等23人提案第二條第二項、委員洪孟楷等22人提案第4條之一 |
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10146.199 |
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各級政府財政收支條紀在中央與地方政府間應依下列原則進行財政需求及資源運用效能之設算一、地方政府人口結構變遷趨勢二、地方經濟活動與發展差異性三、城鄉治理複雜性四、環境生態永續性五、財政自主能力上級政府對下級政府之財政資源應以均衡區域發展為原則 |
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第五條未修正第二章收入未修正第一節稅客收入未修正第六條未修正第七條未修正台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條除第一項第五款貨物稅及第九款礦區稅均刪除第六、七、八款款次依次修正 |
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第二項修正為前項第一款之所得稅之綜合所得稅收入10%應由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市其盈利事業所得稅收入5%應以在直轄市及縣市增給部分給該直轄市及縣市但以不超過該直轄市及縣市自籌財源之10%為限其超過部分由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市 |
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第三項修正為第一項第二款之遺產及贈與稅應以在直轄市、市及鄉鎮市徵起之收入80%給該直轄市、市及鄉鎮市。第四項修正為第一項第四款之營業稅總收入減除1.5% |
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作為積增經費及依法提撥之統一發票給獎獎金後之全部收入依由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市但超過法定最低稅率所增收入其用途除法律另有規定者從其規定外依由行政院定定條高徵收稅之用途並據以劃分歸屬。第二項 |
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10261.97 |
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收支劃分法修正為第一項第六款之菸酒稅,在直轄市及台灣省各縣市增企收入減除百分之一,作為積增及查緝經費後製百分之十九,因按人口比例分配直轄市及台灣省各縣市。 |
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10278.804 |
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在福建省金門及聯鄉二線徵期收入1%作為積增及查緝經費後支80%分配各該縣,區域收入由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市外,區域均同縣洗法條文。 |
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10307.768 |
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委員林思銘等20人提案第八條第一項除刪除第九款礦區稅外其餘同現行法條文第二項除有關所得稅總收入之10%修正為15%及第四款之營業稅總收入減除依法提撥之統一發票給獎獎金後之40%修正為全部餘額外其餘均同現行法條文 |
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10333.175 |
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第三項,除後段修正為直轄市、市及鄉鎮市徵起之收入65%給各該直轄市、市及鄉鎮市外,取予均同現行法條文。第四項,除作為積增及查緝經費後補之19%,修正為20%外,取予同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條第五項。 |
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10356.343 |
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增訂第五項自本法修正施行後每增設一直轄市或准用地方制度法第四條第二項之限應至第一項第一款之所得稅總收入增加提撥10%納入統籌分配稅款總額分配直轄市及限委員許宇甄等16人提案第八條除第一項三除第九款礦區稅 |
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10386.854 |
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第二項所得稅總收入10%修正為12%及增訂第五項第一項第四款之營業稅應以其總收入減除依法提撥之統一發票給獎獎金後之5%按直轄市縣市國土計劃以維護農地佔比分配外。據《軍統縣刑法條文》 |
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10424.689 |
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國民黨黨團提案第八條除第一項第九款礦區稅及第二項前段修正為前項第一款之所得稅總收入25%第四款之營業稅總收入減除1.5%作為積增經費及依法提撥之統一發票給獎獎金後之全部收入外具均同現行法條文委員王洪威等24人提案第八條 |
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10426.178 |
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10441.774 |
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除第一項刪除第九款礦區稅及第二項檢除依法提撥之統一發票給獎獎金後之百分之四十,修正為百分之五十外,其餘均同現行馬條文。委員陳玉珍等24人提案 |
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10443.697 |
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10465.56 |
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第8條除第1項刪除第9款礦區稅及第4項修正為第1項第6款之菸酒稅在直轄市及台灣省各縣市徵期收入減除1%作為積增及查緝經費後之17%因按人口比例分配直轄市及台灣省各縣市在福建省金門及聯鄉二縣 |
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10484.487 |
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增企收入減除1%,作為積增及查緝經費後之80%,分配各該縣。區域收入由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市外,區域均同縣刑法條文。委員邱正軍等19人提案第8條,除第1項刪除第9款礦區稅 |
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10516.951 |
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第二項所得稅總收入10%修正為15%徵定第四項第一項第四款之營業稅應以在直轄市及縣市徵期之10%作為各該地方創稅獎勵金並以總收入減除創稅獎勵金及依法提撥之統一發票給獎獎金後之40%及第五款之貨物稅總收入15%應由中央統籌分配直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市 |
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10534.864 |
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及將《憲刑法》第4項改錄為第5項並將菸酒稅總收入18%修正為20%外其餘均同《憲刑法》條文。委員丁學中等17人提案第8條 |
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10557.733 |
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第一項除三除第九款礦區稅及第二項依法提撥之統一發表給獎獎金後之百分之四十,修正為百分之九十外,其餘均同現行法條文。委員洪孟楷等22人提案第八條。 |
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10588.059 |
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第一項除刪除第九款礦區稅外,其餘均同縣刑法條文第二項除所得稅之綜合所得稅收入10%修正為20%營利事業所得稅收入5%修正為10%及不超過該直轄市及縣市自籌財源之10%為限修正為不超過該縣市及直轄市政府及縣市政府自籌財源之20%為限外 |
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其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條第二項第三項除80%修正為60%外其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條第三項第四項同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條第四項增略第五項第一項第五款之貨物稅總收入10%應由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市 |
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10645.449 |
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第六項,同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第八條第五項,增列第七項,自本法修正施行後,每增設一直轄市或准直轄市,因自第一項第一款之所得稅總收入增加提撥百分之十,納入統籌分配稅款總額,分配直轄市及縣市。委員羅明才等23人提案第八條, |
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除第一項刪除第九款礦區稅第二項所得稅總收入10%修正為12%及第三項後段修正為應以在直轄市、市及鄉鎮市徵期之收入60%給各該直轄市、市及鄉鎮市外其與均同現行法條文委員陳昌明等17人提案第8條除第二項修正為 |
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10706.068 |
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前項第一款之所得稅總收入10%應由中央統籌分配直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市。增列第四項第一項第四款之營業稅總收入減除1.5%作為積增經費依法提撥之統一發表給獎獎金及第一項第五款之貨物稅總收入10%應由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市。 |
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10732.714 |
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現行法第4項改列為第5項且前段修正為應以在直轄市、縣市增企之收入50%給各該直轄市、縣市其所予總收入45%及後段2%修正為5%外及於均同現行法條文。委員黃建豪等21人提案第8條 |
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10739.953 |
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除第二項所得總收入10%修正為15%並以減除二字後增訂1.5%作為積增經費等文字及豁稅總收入10%修正為15%外,須依均同現行法條文。 |
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10786.389 |
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縣刑法第9條括弧刪除台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱縣刑法第10條括弧刪除台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱縣刑法第11條括弧刪除台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱台灣民眾黨黨團提案第9條除刪除第二項後段第三目之土地增值稅再縣市增企之收入百分之二十應繳由 |
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10822.131 |
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應繳由中央統籌分配各縣市等文字及第六項議會修正為立法機關外需於均同現行法第12條委員林思銘等20人提案第12條委員許宇甄等16人提案第12條委員黃洪威等24人提案第12條委員丁學忠等17人提案第12條 |
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10838.671 |
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委員洪孟楷等22人提案第12條委員羅明才等23人提案第12條均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第9條國民黨黨團提案第12條除第二項後段 |
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10868.537 |
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除第二項刪除後段第三目之土地增值稅在縣市增期之收入20%,應繳由中央統籌分配各縣市等文字外,區域均同縣刑法條文。委員邱振軍等19人提案第12條。同國民黨黨團提案第12條。 |
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10894.685 |
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委員陳昌明等17人提案第12條除第二項後段,修正為第三目之土地增值稅在縣市增期之收入全部分配該縣市外,其餘均同縣刑法條文委員黃建豪等21人提案第12條 |
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10914.261 |
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除於第二項後段,修正為第三目之土地增值稅,在縣市徵期之收入全部給各該縣市外,取於均同縣刑法條文。縣刑法第13條,跨無刪除。台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明,請參閱。縣刑法第14條,跨無刪除。台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明,請參閱。縣刑法第15條,跨無刪除。台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明,請參閱。 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第10條、第1項除前段修正為第8條、第2項、第4項、第5項及前條等文之外,取於軍統憲刑法第16條之一、第1項、第2項 |
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一、第八條第二項、第四項及第五項規定由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市之款項以下簡稱中央統籌分配稅款及分配辦法應由中央主管機關、專家、學者及地方政府共同組成之中央統籌分配稅款分配委員會擬定委員會之職責、組成及運作方式等由行政院定之第三項一、前條第二項至第四項 |
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規定由縣統籌分配直轄市 |
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11006.429 |
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由縣統籌分配鄉鎮市之款項以下簡稱縣統籌分配稅款其分配規定由縣政府本條紀財政營需原則並洽商鄉鎮市公所後定之其中依公市分配之款項不得低於可供分配總額之90%依公市涉算分配各該鄉鎮市之金額應於會計年度開始三個月前通知各該鄉鎮市公所 |
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11026.641 |
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為林思銘等20人提案第16條。除第一項之前條,修正為第12條,據墨正定,受分配地方政府就有分得部分應列為當年度稅客收入等文字。第二項之款項二字後,刪除 |
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11048.946 |
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以下簡稱中央統籌分配稅款及增列報請行政合定等文字第三項之前條修正為第12條外其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第10條委員洪孟楷等20（委員林思銘等20人提案 |
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| transcript.whisperx[389].end |
11069.562 |
| transcript.whisperx[389].text |
委員洪孟楷等22人提案第16條除第一項第二項均增列第六項三字及第二項款項二字後增列括弧以下簡稱中央統籌分配稅款第三項是前條修正於第12條外區域均同委員林思銘等20人提案第16條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第11條中央統籌分配稅款 |
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總額98%列為普通統籌分配稅款其餘2%列為特別統籌分配稅款普通 |
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普通統籌分配稅款應按下列方式分配直轄市及縣市一、中央統籌分配稅款總額94%按公式分配以下檢測按公式分配總額依下列指標及權數計算各該直轄市及縣市應分配之比率分配之一、按公式分配總額應依下列規定分配之 |
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11146.861 |
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一、優先彌補各該直轄市及縣市基準財政需要額減基準財政收入額之差額其中縣、所轄、鄉鎮市之基準財政需要額減基準財政收入額之差額並入各該縣的計算二、依本目之一設算分配後之剩餘款項之80%按各該直轄市及縣市最有力指標公式分配其指標及計算方式由全條第二項所定委員會定定 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].start |
11148.499 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].end |
11177.543 |
| transcript.whisperx[393].text |
三、依第一幕設算分配後之剩餘款項之百分之二十應參酌各該直轄市及縣市財政努力及績效分配其指標及計算方式由前條第二項所定委員會定定二、普通統籌分配稅款總額百分之六用以彌補分配年度各該直轄市及縣市依下列方式計算之差短金額如有不足 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].start |
11179.861 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].end |
11195.94 |
| transcript.whisperx[394].text |
得以第三項之特別統籌分配稅款墊資若勝於經扣除應歸還特別統籌分配稅款墊資款項後與以後年度加入錢款按公式分配總額分配 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].start |
11200.185 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].end |
11226.393 |
| transcript.whisperx[395].text |
一、各該直轄市、縣市之差短金額,只依前款涉算貨配之中央統籌分配稅款,即依第26條第一項規定,涉算貨配之一般性補助款加計稅收分成調整影響數後之合計數,較105年度至109年度以下簡稱基準年期中。各年度中央普通統籌分配稅款與一般性 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].start |
11229.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].end |
11251.829 |
| transcript.whisperx[396].text |
補助款及依加執行及非加執行營業稅法第11條第6項規定之專案補助款合計數平均值之短少金額其中縣、所轄、鄉、鎮、市與基準年期貨配之上述款項併入各該縣計算。二、依前目規定合算差短金額時不得將各該 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].start |
11253.424 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].end |
11263.716 |
| transcript.whisperx[397].text |
地方政府全民健康保險費補助款及勞工保險費補助款改由中央負擔後至各該地方政府應負擔款項減少之影響數納入計算。 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].start |
11268.035 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].end |
11288.307 |
| transcript.whisperx[398].text |
特別統籌分配稅款應公為支應受分配直轄市及縣市緊急及重大事項所需經費由行政院依實際情形分配之。第二項第二款第一目所稱之稅收分層調整影響數,指本法中華民國某年某月某日修正之條文施行後, |
| transcript.whisperx[399].start |
11289.227 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].end |
11311.11 |
| transcript.whisperx[399].text |
各該地方政府遺產及證語稅、菸酒稅及土地證語稅及土地增值稅等收入增減數,其合計方式應由依前條第2項所定統籌分配稅款分配委員會定之。應中央相關法令制定定或修正制第12條第1項所列各款地方政府應負擔之款項減少者。 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].start |
11312.981 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].end |
11333.193 |
| transcript.whisperx[400].text |
於一、第二項、第二款規定合算差等金額時應納入計算。第二項、第二款第二目之全民健康保險費補助款與勞工保險費補助款及前項地方政府應負端款項減少數等之合計方式應於一前條第二項所定之統籌分配稅款分配委員會定之 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].start |
11334.534 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].end |
11348.163 |
| transcript.whisperx[401].text |
各該直轄市及縣市努力開闢自治財源至提高其財政自主程度者委員會於一、第二項第一款DM5規定定定財政努力及績效之指標及計算方式時應納入考量 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].start |
11349.67 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].end |
11377.159 |
| transcript.whisperx[402].text |
一、第二項第一款與第二款及第三十七條第四項算定分配各該直轄市及縣市之比例及金額財政部應按次一年度中央統籌分配稅款推估數設算分配各該直轄市及縣市之金額於會計年度開始四個月前通知各該直轄市政府及縣市政府台灣民眾黨黨團提案第十五條直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].start |
11379.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].end |
11407.864 |
| transcript.whisperx[403].text |
就其所獲配之中央統籌分配稅款及縣市統籌分配稅款,除前條第二項所定直轄市及縣市應災所需救災經費之不足數額外,應列為當年度稅客收入。委員賴瑞榮等16人提案第15條直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市就其所獲配之中央統籌分配稅款及縣統籌分配稅款,除前條第二項 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].start |
11409.454 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].end |
11416.775 |
| transcript.whisperx[404].text |
所定直轄市及縣市應災害所需救災經費之不足數額外應列為當年度稅客收入 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].start |
11423.65 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].end |
11444.75 |
| transcript.whisperx[405].text |
委員賴瑞榮等16人提案第16條之一除第2項第4款陣列配合國家政策設置高污染產業情形及空氣污染指數較高及第5款第二目陣列配合國家整體經濟建設設置高污染產業情形等文字外區域均衡現行法條文委員林思銘等20人提案第16條 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].start |
11450.1 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].end |
11456.903 |
| transcript.whisperx[406].text |
委員林思銘等20人提案第16條之一除第二項第一款94%修正為92%指標及全數修正為規定刪除第一幕續文 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].start |
11464.175 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].end |
11490.222 |
| transcript.whisperx[407].text |
按公式分配總額應依下列規定分配之等文字第一目之二之三由前條第二項所定委員會定定之文字均修正為應由所定之分配辦法中定之第二款第一目105年度至109年度以下稱基準年期修正為基準年期即為增列第四項至第八項外其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第十一條 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].start |
11505.131 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].end |
11516.269 |
| transcript.whisperx[408].text |
國民黨黨團提案第16條之一,第一項除刪除及第12條第二項之第四項等文字,及公式化原則修正為公平發議方式外,其余均同憲刑法第一項。 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].start |
11517.441 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].end |
11536.992 |
| transcript.whisperx[409].text |
第二項除後段修正為應以總額94%列為普通統籌分配稅款其餘6%列為特別統籌分配稅款應公為支應受分配地方政府緊急及其他重大事項所需經費由行政院依實際情形分配之其餘同線刑法第二項第一款 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].start |
11539.309 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].end |
11561.183 |
| transcript.whisperx[410].text |
第三項第一款至第三款普通統籌分配稅款按下列方式分配一可供分配款項15%依非直轄市及之縣市最近三年度申報所得額平均數為基準分配於各縣市各該縣市分配所得額獲配數計算公數如下 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].start |
11563.52 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].end |
11580.051 |
| transcript.whisperx[411].text |
收支劃分法 各該縣市轄區內之人口數乘以全部縣市最近三年度每人平均申報所得而除以各該直轄市最近三年度每人平均所得數誇乎除以全部縣市一千數誇乎內算定數之合計數。 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].start |
11582.128 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].end |
11598.162 |
| transcript.whisperx[412].text |
二、可供分配款項11%不分直轄市及各縣市均分。三、可供分配款項67%按人口比例分配直轄市、縣市並定而提撥直轄市人口數。 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].start |
11600.765 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].end |
11617.158 |
| transcript.whisperx[413].text |
最高者貨配數值2%之金額由直轄市人口數在300萬人以上者按其人口比例分攤並將該款項平均分配金門縣、聯鄉縣及澎湖縣可供分配款項4%分配鄉鎮市其分配方式應參酌鄉鎮市 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].start |
11623.402 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].end |
11651.257 |
| transcript.whisperx[414].text |
正式編制人員人事費及基本建設需求情形,原定公式分配各鄉鎮市。五、建議台北市身為首都保留可供分配款項3%於台北市。六、受分配之直轄市、縣市或鄉鎮市及分配金額較修法前一年度分配金額減少者之全部差短數,以特別統籌分配稅款致應。 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].start |
11655.455 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].end |
11676.005 |
| transcript.whisperx[415].text |
第三項,依前項算定分配各該直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市之金額。財政部應按次一年度中央統籌分配稅款推估數,設算分配各該直轄市及縣市之金額,於會計年度開始四個月前通知各災直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市政府。 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].start |
11677.574 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].end |
11699.847 |
| transcript.whisperx[416].text |
一、第十二條、第二項至第四項規定由縣統籌分配之下鄉鎮市之款項因本條紀財政營需原則由縣政府訂定分配辦法其中依公室分配之款項不得低於可供分配總額之90%依公室設算分配各該鄉鎮市之金額依依會計年度開始三個月前通知各該鄉鎮市公所 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].start |
11702.13 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].end |
11727.086 |
| transcript.whisperx[417].text |
委員蔡宇宇等16人提案第16條除第二項第一款爭略但書但為確保糧食安全與供水穩定原則在國土計劃法國土功能分類中之的農業發展地區第一類、第二類及國土保育區第一類應優先各有一定比例分配直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市補足基本財政需要外,區域均同縣刑法條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].start |
11733.174 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].end |
11757.453 |
| transcript.whisperx[418].text |
委員邱振均等19人提案第16條之一第二項第四款財政能力及第五款第二幕營利事業營業而後均增業基礎建設落後程度工業與科技業碳排放情形等文字外其餘均同現行法條文委員丁守中等17人提案第16條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].start |
11761.331 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].end |
11773.327 |
| transcript.whisperx[419].text |
除第二項第一款具末陣列分配應依國土計劃農業發展地區與該直轄市縣市所佔比例超過50%應優先補助外其餘均同縣刑法條文 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].start |
11775.134 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].end |
11798.445 |
| transcript.whisperx[420].text |
委員洪孟楷等22人提案第16條第一項至第三項,除第二項序文陣列,按本法第四條之指標,設算分配公式,第一款第二目及第三目,應於二之後均陣列一前條第二項等文字,第二款第三目之第三十條修正為第二十七條,基準年期修正為某年度至某年度, |
| transcript.whisperx[421].start |
11799.738 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].end |
11823.773 |
| transcript.whisperx[421].text |
以下簡稱基準年期外,許宇均同委員林思明等20人提案第16條之於第一項至第三項。第四項,除統籌分配稅款分配委員會修正為分配辦法外,許宇同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第11條第4項。第五項,除刪除委員會3之外,許宇同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第11條第7項。第六項,同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第11條第7項。 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].start |
11844.234 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].end |
11850.147 |
| transcript.whisperx[422].text |
委員陳昌明等17人提案第16條之一同委員邱振軍等19人提案第16條之一 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].start |
11859.124 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].end |
11878.542 |
| transcript.whisperx[423].text |
台灣民眾黨黨團提案第12條,前條第二項第一目之一,所稱基準財政需要額,指下列各款之合計金額,一、正式編制人員人事費,包含本奉、家籍、生活津貼、退休撫恤金及保險費,二、基本工作費 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].start |
11881.587 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].end |
11901.573 |
| transcript.whisperx[424].text |
基本辦公費及遠景服裝費、三、警政及消防外勤人員操勤加班費、四、依地方民意代表費用支給及村里長事務補助費、補助條例、定有支給或補助標準之民意代表及村里長費用、五、 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].start |
11902.762 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].end |
11921.473 |
| transcript.whisperx[425].text |
一、公教人員保險法規定應由受分配地方政府負擔之私立學校教職員保險費補助。六、依國民年金法、農民健康保險條例、老年農民福利津貼暫行條例及依老人福利法有關中低收入老人生活津貼發給規定 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].start |
11923.714 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].end |
11937.699 |
| transcript.whisperx[426].text |
應由受分配地方政府負擔之社會福利支出。七、高中至以上學校扣除人事費及基本辦公費後之交易支出。八、對於公立醫療院所支補助經費。九、基本建設經費 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].start |
11939.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].end |
11965.071 |
| transcript.whisperx[427].text |
收支劃分法．直轄市及縣市經中央統籌分配稅款分配委員會決議之特殊經費。前條第二項第一款第一幕之一所稱基準財政收入額指負稅收入扣除中央統籌分費稅款及依地方稅法通則徵收之負稅收入後務之數額其中屬第九條第一項第一款之第六款所列各稅按百分之九十計算 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].start |
11966.567 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].end |
11993.405 |
| transcript.whisperx[428].text |
但直轄市及縣市之稅客收入超過其前三年平均值10%以內者,其超過部分按80%計算,超過10%至20者,其超過部分按60%計算,超過20%以上者,其超過部分按40%計算。依前條第二項第一款第一目之一,算定各該直轄市縣市或縣所轄鄉鎮市之差額為負值時,以零列計。 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].start |
11994.557 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].end |
12020.82 |
| transcript.whisperx[429].text |
第一項及第二項所定基準財政需要額與基準財政收入額之合計標準及計算方式應由依第10條第二項所定之委員會定之。委員林思銘等20人提案第16條之二除第一項第6款具首刪除國民年金法 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].start |
12023.823 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].end |
12033.344 |
| transcript.whisperx[430].text |
令刪除第九款、第十款第二項具中之第九條修正的第十二條具末刪除但書之文字 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].start |
12049.895 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].end |
12075.263 |
| transcript.whisperx[431].text |
及第四條修正為第一項及第二項所定財政需要額與財政收入額之合計標準及計算方式因應於分配辦法中定之。其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第十二條。委員洪孟楷等22人提案第十六條之二。 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].start |
12081.28 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].end |
12096.29 |
| transcript.whisperx[432].text |
除第1項第6款具首刪除《農民健康保險條例》、《老年農民福利津貼暫行條例》等文字,第二項具中之第12條修正為第9條,及第4項應於 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].start |
12108.425 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].end |
12116.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[433].text |
二字後甄列一第16條第二項所定之等文字外其餘軍統委員林思銘等20人提案第16條之二委員賴志寶等29人提案第16條之二 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].start |
12126.482 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].end |
12142.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[434].text |
收支劃分法配合地方改制修正前第8條第一項第一款之所得稅總收入20%為地方政府之補充財源應由中央統籌分配直轄市及縣市。稅客 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].start |
12144.144 |
| transcript.whisperx[435].end |
12164.631 |
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由補充財源分配直轄市及縣市之款項及分配辦法應依下列各款之規定,由財政部洽商中央主計機關及受分配地方政府後擬定,報請行政院核定。一、補充財源應以總額5%分配台東縣、花蓮縣、澎湖縣、金門縣及連江縣總額95%分配其餘直轄市及縣市。二、 |
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全款補充財源稅款算定可供分配之款項後應參酌受分配地方政府之人口數合理人均稅出與最近三年度決算人均稅出平均數之差額等因素 |
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12212.572 |
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延定公視分配各級地方政府。前項第二款地方政府合理人均稅出與全國平均人均稅出依各地方人口及自然條件分級加成設算之。第二項限制人口數合理人均稅出與最近三年度決算人均稅出應包含所辖鄉鎮市。 |
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12228.05 |
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委員洪孟楷等22人提案第16條之一、第16條之三、第16條之一第6項規定通知分配直轄市之款項直轄市應參酌各區域、各城鄉差距 |
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居民生活型態、產業模式、人文社會及環境生態保護等因素嚴定、透明化、公式化之方式分配所轄各該區,其分配規定由直轄市政府訂定,報請財政部被查。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第14條 |
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第11條第3項規定之特別統籌分配稅款應本公開透明原則辦理分配並按既公佈收支明細及結存情形在於本法鎖定程序動之前則作為協助地方政府財務調度所需財源 |
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第11條第三項緊急及重大事項所需經費中屬之應直轄市及縣市災害所需救災經費部分以各該直轄市及縣市應災害所需所需救災費經費之不足數額為原則全項所稱不足數額指直轄市政府及縣市政府一 |
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12319.021 |
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障礙防救法相關規定動之年度災害準備金或本已緩計及原則調整年度預算支應後及不足數額經行政院核定支應部分及支應要件處理程序及其他相關事項之辦法由行政院定之。 |
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12345.435 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第13條依第11條第8項規定通知分配縣之款項縣應提撥一定金額分配所轄鄉鎮市其金額不得低於所轄鄉鎮市下列各款之合計數一、基準年期中 |
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各年度中央普通統籌分配稅款與一、加值型及非加值型營業稅法第11條第6項規定之專案補助款之合計數之105%合計數之平均值。二、基準年期中各年度由現分配之中央一般性補助款之平均值。 |
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前向現應分配所辖鄉鎮市之金額應參酌各鄉鎮市基準財政收支差短、財政努力及績效等因素。 |
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12403.546 |
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延定透明化、公式化之方式分配且各年度各鄉鎮市貨配金額不得低於基準年期中各年度中央普通統籌分配稅款與依加值型及非加值型營業稅法第11條第6項規定之專案補助款合計數之平均值加計分配年度與遺產及證與稅在各該鄉鎮市預估增期 |
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12427.838 |
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收入20%之數額及分配規定由縣政府恰商鄉鎮市公所後定定,報請財政部備查。縣政府依前二項規定設算分配各該鄉鎮市之款項。縣政府應於會計年度開始三個月前通知財政部、中央主計機關及各該鄉鎮市公所。 |
| transcript.whisperx[448].start |
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| transcript.whisperx[448].end |
12445.791 |
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各鄉鎮事工所努力開闢自治財源至提高其財政自主程度者於一、第二項規定定定財政努力及績效之指標及計算方式時應納入考量 |
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12466.673 |
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各縣政府位於前四項規定辦理者經財政部會同中央主計機關查明後應縣級另起改正。藉其為改正者得暫緩撥付應分配該縣之中央統籌分配稅款或於第二項所定之最低金額先行設算並撥付各該鄉鎮市。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第16條第11條及第13條規定應分配及 |
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因分配各直轄市、縣市及鄉鎮市之款項由財政部按月撥付並以平均撥付為原則。各年度中央統籌分配稅款實際收入數,較年度開始前支預估數超增時。中央得救超增部分,著定一定比例作為短增年度支填補財源。前項之一定比例及撥補方式等相關事項應於依第10條第2項所定之分配辦法中定之。 |
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12535.591 |
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民眾黨黨團現行法第11條括弧刪除台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱委員洪孟楷等22人提案第17條財政部應會統中央組織機關於會計年度開始6個月前藉由第16條之一、第二項、第一款及第二款之相關涉算資料與爭議事項及其他有關 |
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中央統籌分配稅款分配之重大事項,召開中央統籌分配稅款諮詢會議,必要時並得隨時召開。前一項諮詢會議應邀請學者專家、中央相關機關、直轄市政府及縣市政府出席。 |
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12591.016 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第17條各級政府對他級或同級政府之稅客不得重增或附加但直轄市政府、縣市政府為辦理自治事項籌措所需財源依地方稅法通則規定附加徵收者不在此限各級地方政府不得對入境客入境稅或通過稅台灣民眾黨黨團提案 |
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第18條、委員林思銘等20人提案第19條、委員許宇甄等16人提案第19條、委員羅明才等23人提案第19條。均為各級政府為適應特別需要得經各該立法機關之立法舉辦臨時性質之說客。 |
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第二節獨佔及專賣收入台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱第二十條現行法第二十條台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱現行法第二十一條台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱第三節台灣民眾黨黨團提案第二節工程收益費收入 |
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12676.964 |
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為憲刑法第三節工程收益費收入。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第19條,委員林思銘等20人提案第22條,委員洪孟楷等22人提案第22條, |
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12705.647 |
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修正為各級政府徵收工程收益費應依工程收益費徵收條例相關規定辦理工程之舉辦與工程收益費之徵收均應經過預算程序使得為之。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第三節結名同憲刑法第四節結名台灣民眾黨黨團提案第20條同憲刑法第23條 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第4條結明同憲刑法第5節結明台灣民眾黨黨團提案第21條委員林思銘等20人提案第24條委員洪孟楷等20人提案第24條均修正為各級政府及所屬機關學校徵收規費應依規約法之規定辦理 |
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憲刑法第25條、台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明,請參閱。委員林思銘等20人提案第25條,刪除。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第5條結明同憲刑法第6條結明。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第22條同憲刑法第26條。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第6節結明同憲刑法第7節結明。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第23條 |
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同憲刑法第27條、憲刑法第28條、台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱、委員林思銘等20人提案第28條刪除 |
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收支劃分法 提案第7條結明同憲法第8節結明台灣民眾黨黨團提案第24條同憲法第29條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第8節結明同憲法第9節結明台灣民眾黨黨團提案第25節中央為謀全國之經濟平衡發展得編列一般性補助款及計劃性補助款 |
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補助直轄市政府及縣市政府,令對於直轄市政府及縣市政府之重大或緊急事項,得編列經費給予補助,前向一般性補助款、各年度總額,不得低於本法中華民國某年某月某日修正之條文施行前一年度所得稅總收入10%及獲利稅總收入10%之合計數。 |
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計劃型補助款應由中央各主管機關依戰策及業務需要就第27條第一項所列四項予以補助其各年度總額是中央整體財政收支狀況決定之。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第26條中央對直轄市政府及縣市政府之一般性補助款應以補助其教育 |
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社會福利及基本設施等項目所需經費為限,其分費方式依下列各款制規定。一、交易經費應參酌受補助直轄市政府、縣市政府之財政能力與所屬各級學校學生人數、班級數及其他應加計之項目權數等因素定之。二、社會福利經費應參酌受補助直轄市政府、縣市政府之財政能力、各類人口數、各項法定社會福利津貼支領人數、人次 |
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收支劃分法 及其他應加計之項目、權術等因素定之。三、基本設施經費應參著受補助直轄市政府、縣市政府之人口數、土地面積、公共設施面積及其他應加計之項目、權術等因素定之,並得視實際需要,就特定項目所需經費,才指定方式分配。 |
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前項第三款基本設施經費得就離島地區、商港所在地之直轄市政府、縣市政府因商港建設費廢除與加計全數方式增加分配金額直轄市政府及縣市政府依第一項所定分配方式及前項所定加計全數所獲分配之一般性補助款 |
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中央得限定其支用範圍、支出用途或指定應辦理之施政計劃及內容。直銷市政府或縣市政府如有違反限制規定者,中央得就其違反部分予以暫停撥付或扣減補助款。委員洪孟楷等22人提案第30條之一,除第一項第一款之班級數修正為應由班級數外,其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第26條。 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第二十七條中央為謀全國之經濟平衡發展得編列計劃型補助款補助直轄市政府及縣市政府全項之計劃型補助款應由中央各主管機關依政策及業務需要予以補助但下列四項為限一、跨越直轄市、縣市之建設計劃但離島地區不受跨越轄區限制 |
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二、計劃效益具長期性及整體性之計劃項目。三、具有示範性作用之重大建設計劃。四、配合中央重大政策或建設,需由直轄市政府、縣市政府配合辦理之事項。中央對於跨區域之建設計劃或合作事項,應優先給予補助或其他必要協助。 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》14案：一、繼續審查《財政收支劃分法》14案：一、繼續審查 |
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及於均因案計劃性質定定明確、客觀、透明化之審查基準與處理原則及管考規定 |
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13054.384 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第29條中央對直轄市政府及縣市政府之計劃型補助款應以補助下列事項為限一、計劃效益及長期性及整體性之計劃項目二、跨越直轄市縣市或二以上縣市建設計劃但離島地區不受跨越轄區之限制三、具有示範性作用或為 |
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收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分法及財政收支劃分 |
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收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法修正草案：一、繼續審查:「財 |
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定定明確、客觀、透明化之審查核基準與處理原則及管考規定,並應將經費之核定與執行暗記公告並上網登載,公開查詢。委員林思銘等20國民黨黨團提案 |
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收支劃分法。民眾黨黨團提案第27條 |
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中央為謀求全國之經濟平衡發展,得編列計劃型補助款補助直轄市政府及縣市政府。前項之計劃型補助款應由中央各主管機關依政策及業務需要予以補助,但以下列事項為限。一、跨越直轄市縣市之建設計劃,但離島地區不受跨越轄區之限制。二、計劃效益具長期性及整體性之計劃項目。三、具有具有示範性作用之重大建設計劃,使配合中央 |
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配合中央政、中央政策或建設需由直轄市政府、縣市政府配合 |
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收支劃分法修正草案。國民黨黨團提案第30條,中央為謀全國之經濟平衡發展,得足以補助地方政府,但以下列事項為限。一、計畫效益涵蓋命廣且具整體性之計畫項目。二、跨越直轄市縣市或二以上縣市之建設計畫。三、具有示範性作用之重大建設計畫。四、因應中央政策 |
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重大政策或建設需由地方政府配合辦理之事項,前向各款補助之辦法,由行政院另定之。中央政府給予地方政府之一般性補助款項金額,不得少於修正施行前一年度預算編列書,文、黃、黃薇等24人提案第30條 |
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第30條第1項修正為計劃、效益涵蓋面廣且具長期性、永續性及整體性的計劃項目,取經同性行法條文。委員洪孟楷等22人提案第30條中央為謀全國之經濟平衡發展,得編列一般性補助款及計劃型補助款,補助直轄市政府及縣市政府。 |
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令對於知曉市政府及縣市政府之重大或緊急事項得編列經費給予補助。前項一般性補助款各年度總額不得低於本法中華民國某年某月某日修正之條文施行前一年度之金額。計劃型補助款應由中央各主管機關依政策及業務需要就第30條之二所列事項予以補助,其各年度總額是中央整體財政收支狀況決定之。 |
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委員洪孟楷等22人提案第30條之二,足第一款、第二款互調,第三款刪除,或為直轄市政府及縣市政府等文字,並增列第五款直轄市政府及縣市政府之重大事項,增列第二項 |
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全項各款補助事項、其相關補助項目、補助比例、計劃執行管考及其他相關事項之辦法由行政院定之,及第五項後段修正為其經貿之核定與執行均應按計公告並上網登載公開查詢外。其餘均同、委員林思銘等20人提案第30條。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第30條 |
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中央會辦理第35條第2項、第37條第5項及地方制度法第71條第2項所規定之4項得就直轄市政府及縣市政府就施政計畫執行效能、年度預算編制或執行情形及相關開源節流績效等由行政院訂定辦法進行考核並得依考核結果增加或減少各該直轄市政府或縣市政府依第26條第1項規定所獲分配之一般性補助款。 |
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財政收支劃分法 提案第31條,現為謀鄉鎮市兼之經濟平衡發展,對於鄉鎮市的足以補助,其中現對於跨區域之建設計劃或合作事項,應優先隔離補助或其他必要之協助,其補助規定由縣政府定之。 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第31條、委員林思銘等20人提案第31條、委員許宇甄等16人提案第31條、委員洪孟楷等22人提案第31條、委員羅明才等23人提案第31條,均修正為現未謀鄉鎮市兼之經濟平衡發展,對於鄉鎮市得足以補助,其中現對於跨區域之建設計劃或合作事項應要先給予補助或其他必要之協助,其補助規定由縣政府定之。 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第28條 |
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及委員洪孟楷等22人提案第32條均徵定為加強原住民族及原住民族地區之發展中央各主管機關得就下列四項編列計劃型補助款與補助不受前條第一項各款規定之限制一、原住民族交易文化二、原住民衛生醫療、就業服務及社會福利事業三、原住民族地區經濟產業發展交通水利、飲水設施、住宅改善、公共建設與土地開發利用及管理 |
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是都市原住民生活輔導五其他謀求原住民族地區均衡發展之相關計劃。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第32條同憲刑法第33條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第9節結明同憲刑法第10節結明 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第33條,除第一項修正為各級政府非法律規定或地方立法機關之依決,不得發行公債或為超過一年之國內外借款。其餘均同訓刑法條文,委員羅明才等23人提案第34條,同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第33條,委員林思銘等20人提案第34條, |
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委員許宇甄等16人提案第34條及委員洪孟楷等22人提案第34條除將議會修正為地方立法機關外其餘均同現行法條文第三章之初未修正台灣民眾黨黨團提案第34條同現行法第35條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第35條委員林思銘等20人提案第35條之一及委員洪孟楷等22人提案第35條之一均除第一項計修正為極外其餘均同現行法第35條之一 |
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第36條未修正。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第37條,除第三項具中其經費三字後增列之負擔,除法律另有規定外等文字,及第四項修正為各級地方政府未依前三項規定負擔應負擔經費時 |
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其上級政府得暫停撥付其中央統籌分配稅款、縣統籌分配稅款、補助款或以其當年度或以用年度所獲分配之中央統籌分配稅款、縣統籌分配稅款或補助款扣減抵充之必要時並得扣減其補助款。其餘均同縣刑法條文文林思銘等20人提案第37條除第四項中之前三項修正為前二項外其餘均同台灣民眾黨黨團提案第37條 |
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收支劃分法、委員洪孟楷等22人提案第37條除第4項、前2項修正為第2項及前項外區域軍統委員林思銘等20人提案第37條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第38條 |
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地方政府應於年度預算中就下列各項支出,又會先籌妥財源編列預算之應。一、以列入本法核算之基準財政需要額項目及一般性補助款補助之經費項目。二、依教育經費編列於管理法核定之教育經費應付單數。三、依其他法律規定必須付單之經費。四、中央各主管機關計劃型補助款中應由地方政府配合分單之經費。 |
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收支劃分法．一、繼續審查:「財政收支劃分法．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、繼續詢答．一、 |
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中央統籌分配稅款、縣統籌分配稅款或補助款扣減抵充之必要時並得扣減及補充及補助款。委員賴志寶等29人提案第37條之二,於第16條之二受分配地方政府,於最近一年度 |
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須以最近一年度累計未償餘額結算數高於法定債限60%或無以前年度累計剩餘者應提撥50%以上為常在草原或沖銷累計短處。台灣民眾黨黨團提案第39條 |
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一、第二十六條第三項、第三十七條第四項、第五項及前條第二項規定暫停撥付、暫緩撥付、扣減底充或扣減之程序及相關處理事項,分別由財政部於一、第十條第二項所定之分配辦法及行政院於第二十九條所定之補助辦法中定之。 |
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13713.311 |
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台灣民眾黨黨團提案第40條同憲刑法第38條台灣民眾黨黨團提案第41條同憲刑法第38條之一委員林思銘等20人提案第38條之一及委員洪孟楷等22人提案第38條之一均除增列第二項 |
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公務員違反本法規定者,因移送監察院談合或糾舉外,居經同現行法條文。委員賴世保等22人提案第38條之一,除增訂第二項,因制定令修正或廢止法令而影響本法第12條之下事及縣市稅收,造成之下事及縣市政府稅收之實質損失。於修正擴大、中央統籌分配稅款規模之規定施行前,由中央政府補足。 |
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每年不受預算法第23條有關公債收入不得充經常支出支用之限制及增訂第三項前項實質損失之計算由中央主管機關考量歷年可徵收之最高金額、經濟成長等情形與直轄市政府及縣市政府協商之外其餘金融現行法條文第四章負責 |
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未修正。」台灣民眾黨黨團提案第42條本法中華民國某年某月某日修正之條文施行後新設後改制之直轄市、縣市、鄉鎮市準用直轄市規定之縣依法設置援助民族自治區及縣市行政區域重劃時及財政收支劃分調整日期由行政院定之。委員林思銘等20人提案第38條之二除增訂第二條 |
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第二項本法某年某月某日令修正之條文自中華民國某年某月某日起施行外具同性刑法條文。委員許宇甄等16人提案第38條、委員羅明才等23人提案第38條之二。處軍甄定第二項本法中華民國某年某月某日修正之條文施行後新設或改制之直轄市縣市鄉鎮市準用直轄市規定之縣依法設置之 |
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以法設置援助民主自治區及行政區域重劃時其財政收支劃分調整日期由行政院定之 |
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外其亦均同現行法條文,委員賴志寶等29人提案第38條之二,除增訂第二項本法某年某月某日修正之第16條之二及第30條之37條之二之施行日期由行政院以命令定之外,其亦均同現行法條文,台灣民眾黨黨團提案第43條,委員許宇甄等16人提案第39條,委員羅明才等23人提案第39條,均修正為本法施行日期由行政院定之。副表1台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參閱 |
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提案、委員許宇甄等16人提案、國民黨黨團提案、委員丁薛忠等17人提案、委員洪孟楷等22人提案及委員羅明才等23人均提案 |
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副表1刪除、副表2台灣民眾黨黨團提案說明請參議員、委員許宇甄等16人提案、委員國民黨黨團提案、委員丁薛忠等17人提案、委員洪孟才等22人提案及委員羅明才等23人均提案、副表2刪除。宣導完畢。 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法 |
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收支劃分法：立法院第11屆第1會期財政收支劃分法：一、繼續審查 |
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| transcript.whisperx[513].text |
收支劃分法、委員羅明才等23人、委員洪孟楷等24人分別擬具 |
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可以吃便當,去洗手間的也請便,謝謝。 |
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收支劃分法．立法院第1會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第2會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第3會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第4會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第5會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第6會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第7會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第8會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第9會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第10會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第11會期財政收支劃分法．立法院第12會 |
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收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政收支劃分法修正草案、委員羅明才等23人分別擬具:「財政 |