| IVOD_ID |
159688 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159688 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-27T10:33:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-27T10:44:37+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:08 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db9007f2c30cac0b3fcf1b4606480da88618d1f25d2de176b75bca5ef969bfb1957e05ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
羅智強 |
| 委員發言時間 |
10:33:29 - 10:44:37 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請考試院秘書長、考選部部長、銓敘部部長及公務人員保障暨培訓委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況及立法計畫，並備質詢。） |
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主席有請劉秘書長麻煩秘書長委員長秘書長好首先想請問您監察院在本月24號說預算被大幅刪減為有要申請釋憲那我想請問考試院會針對總預算問題提出憲法訴訟嗎 |
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跟委員報告我們跟監察院的狀況很不一樣所以沒有這個規劃我有看到你在媒體上就說說考試院的預算狀況沒有監察院那麼糟所以不會嘛那我想請問教育秘書長為什麼考試院的預算三棟的狀況沒有像監察院三的這麼多 |
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考試院的狀況就是在凍結的部分因為跟大多數的機關一樣凍結三層那陳師說凍結三層對未來運作還是會有一些影響凍結的部分你趕快剛好請問你們的解凍提過來了沒 |
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呃 因為在 總結案剛公佈嘛所以現在這個那你什麼時候可以提出來呃 這個 會 應該會盡快吧喔 不行不行 我跟你講 秘書長你們既然這麼在乎 你也知道動結案你今天預算報告解凍過來 如果合理的話我羅志強第一個 就是投下解凍的票可是你解凍案不送過來 請問我們怎麼解凍 |
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因為總預算還剛公佈幾天你告訴我什麼時候可以送過來總預算剛公佈你們行政院怎麼去搞或是民進黨政府怎麼搞我現在考試院你不一定要配合但是在準備解凍的事情你不會跟我講現在才開始準備吧解凍案解凍已經早就在提出預算通過解凍的部分那請問解凍什麼時候 |
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有在做嗎?就各種委員在...我看你幕僚有在點頭,有在做啊有啦,一直有在做啊你就直接打嘛,對不對那請問你,你們下禮拜就送出來可不可以?他也沒有辦法沒辦法喔?你們解凍,跟我講說凍結預算政府就快要倒掉了來不及,那你給我個時間嘛 |
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什麼時候可以把解凍案送出來我回去再盤點一下跟委員說明因為委員給我們很多的不該決定我先跟你講民進黨不是你的問題我告訴各位明天民進黨又要去癱瘓立法院 |
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我說實在話 民進黨在下鄉到處說凍結案對政務影響多大可是我完全沒看到我們現在政府對於解凍案的提出有任何任何感覺上我要加快腳步的部分我們立法院都三催四請了就是說你如果真的覺得預算凍結對你們的政務影響很大你趕快把解凍案提出來我再次問一下我們的秘書長請問考試院的解凍案什麼時候會送出來 |
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我們如果就委員會交求我們提供的報告等等這個部分我們回去盤點的話儘快來處理不要講儘快因為我知道同仁都有儘快的在年底可不可以來得及年底前也可以吧那不會等到這麼晚還是明年底要不十年後不會吧對不對下個禮拜不行下下禮拜可不可以我就回去盤點要再負責任跟委員說我跟秘書長說我會跟你講 |
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你們這樣的態度我感覺上對你們的解凍案你們自己都不著急的時候憑什麼到處去講說今天凍結案對政務有影響即便說凍結一層兩層三層不管是凍結多少你今天解凍案出來你現在能夠運用的百分之七十以凍結三層來講你早點弄出來對不對四月解凍案通過實質上你就可以用了不是嗎請問這個月不行四月行不行四月初可不可以我來努力 |
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來努力喔 到現在為止喔我告訴你 你到現在為止連個期間你都不肯回答我也跟大家講啦 不是不是 秘書長你啦我知道你也有接到指示啦解凍案慢慢來啦這是我聽到民進黨的一個內部的指令解凍案全部慢慢來 |
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反駁我趕快反擊我就我今天考試院我今天抗議羅志強說民進黨說解凍案慢慢來我告訴你我今天現在一個小時後把解凍案拿出來再不行下個禮拜我就把解凍案拿出來再不行下下禮拜我拿出來你給我一個時間 |
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不然我跟你講 我得到訊息就是民進黨說解凍要慢慢來啦不急著送啦 叫各部會不用急啦因為只要不急 就拿沒有解凍來做抹黑在野黨所謂的凍結政務的一個藉口你不急 結果呢 不是說你啦行政院不急 然後到處拿這個當柴火去攻擊在野黨 |
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今天我們的考訓做一個最好的示範啊連解凍案的時間他都拿不出來啊你的幕僚剛剛都點頭你們已經有在準備了請問預算通過是什麼時候通過的預算起碼通過兩個月有了吧對不對在立法院審查的時間你不要跟我講這兩個月你們完全沒有做任何因應準備有在準備謝謝嘛有在準備 |
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拿出來 這而且 民主黨你也知道立法院的凍結案是從有立法院開始就有立法院的凍結案 沒錯吧就有立法院解凍案沒錯吧就有今天考試院怎麼去因應解凍的SOP沒錯吧那我跟各位講 請問到底民進黨在幹什麼所以第一件事我在這邊具體的拜託 肯託 |
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希望我們考試院為我們行政機關之先你就把解凍案拿出來否則我要跟民進黨政府不要在那邊一天到晚拿史上預算最高在那邊哭窮 賣慘說這事做不了 那事做不了接下來我要請教您請問你剛剛已經講了不會提出釋憲案對不對就預算部分不會嘛 |
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那為什麼你剛才講為什麼今天考試院的預算的煽動沒有監察院那麼嚴重為什麼我跟你講啊因為考試院的官員我還是肯定我相信秘書長你自己有看到我在審查預算我對考試院的預算我個人的提案是相當客氣的沒錯吧對不對你們的考試院的單位來跟我溝通我都說該給我絕對不會刪我不會攔 |
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因為考試院目前在我的看法當中是有功能的就這麼簡單而且有在發揮功能當然有很多地方要改進像剛剛我看審判委員那個他的提議我就非常認同啊這個不要跟考生搶錢啦公務員報考的數字都越來越難看結果腦筋還動到要去提高報名會人家日本都不用收 |
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這個我覺得意見可以帶進去這就是希望考試院可以改進的地方這我們相互勉勵嘛沒錯嘛對不對做不做得到再說當然要尊重你們考試院的一個職權可是我們立法委員為民喉舌這是考試院跟我們立法院的互動但是我要跟秘書長說為什麼你跟我講你不會提事先啊監察院要提監察院當然要提啊遮掩他的無能跟廢啊 |
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我想請問 考試院有沒有編一個出國預算去考察到這個中雄的保育區去考察黑熊有沒有 這個預算 有沒有編我們如果是以這個目的的話 這種主題我們當然當然啦 對你不要講說你沒有編這個預算你們也沒有荒謬到中雄保育地去考察黑熊啦 |
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你們考試院沒有幹出這種事情啊來我再這樣請教你請問您吼您的業務吼是增加還是減少?我的業務費是減少我是說您的業務啦我的業務啊對啊考試院業務啊您說在院裡面的業務啊院裡的業務啊考生的業務啊然後我們公務員保障的業務啊增加還減少?應該是在增加那非常好嘛你知道啊監察院陳取上任之後調查跟糾正案下滑百分之三十 |
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減少欸 好閒啊那我想請教你齁今天考試院你的預算 對不對這幾年有暴增四成嗎有沒有增加百分之四十有沒有沒有沒有嘛他的業務量自我限縮 閹割 減少百分之三十就監察院你知道預算程序上任後增加多少嗎 你知道嗎嗯 不了解增加百分之四十啊 |
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增加百分之四十結果業務減少百分之三十這麼廢的單位跟我講總預算被刪在枯窮連衛生紙都買不到我告訴你學寫考試院啦你有考試院一半的功能今天監察院不會到今天的地步啦我再想請教一下齁請問考試院有把廢死列為你們2023年到2026年終成策略計畫目標嗎 有沒有 |
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廢除死刑沒有這不是我們的業務非常好啊當然不是你們的業務啊也不該這麼做啊台灣人民八成反對廢除死刑可是我們監察院把廢除死刑列為2023年到2026年的忠誠策略計畫目標跟著八成民意對幹我再想請教你啊請問考試院有沒有一個委員叫做高永誠有沒有 |
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有沒有 沒有沒有嘛 恭喜你啊東廠沒有進駐考試院這位高永成清算檢察官只因為為了關說段宜康的曲棍球案人家不從就清算他考試院有這種事情嗎 有沒有這個跟我們的業務都不相干當然不相干 也不會有這種事啊就業務相干 請問你們有願意當東廠嗎不會吧 不可能吧不可能 不可能嘛 |
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所以我今天要在這邊講這個東廠跟我們講說衛生紙發不出來看看考試院啦為什麼考試院今天在三節預算上我們立法院對考試院相對是能夠讓他能夠用的預算盡量去用因為你們監察院丟臉到極致 |
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你廢號 沒有功能 私衛素餐 坐領高薪 浪費納稅人的錢就算了 不是私衛素餐 坐領高薪 浪費納稅人的錢 還當東廠考試院 還有臉去視線學學考 呃 說監察院監察院還有臉去視線學學考試院啦 謝謝 |