| IVOD_ID |
159685 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159685 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-23-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
23 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
交通委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-27T09:48:29+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-27T09:57:34+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:09:05 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db900da1752e5b479358b2ba64e6561398ad01f25d2de176b75bcdc4b3d14b593074c5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
黃國昌 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:48:29 - 09:57:34 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期交通委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請國家通訊傳播委員會代理主任委員陳崇樹列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 麻煩有請代理主委好 陳代主委喂好 代理主委現在廣電媒體上面非常多的假訊息很多閱聽大眾神無痛絕大家都在問一件事情NCC是睡著了嗎?我從具體的開始講 |
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從今年總預算的審查三立民視做假新聞說我們三立體育署11億的預算這是跟客觀事實不符啊這個不是意見的表達明顯跟客觀事實不符啊NCC有沒有接到簡訊這部分有 我們有請業者來做意見回答 做意見陳述陳述了沒有 |
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對啊 他的陳述你們可以接受嗎我們要提諮詢會議來討論還要拖多久我們目前最近應該是會4月吧 4月10號我們會討論拖這麼久沒有 因為意見陳述要實踐 而且他...沒關係喔他有回覆啊陳情人直接給我講啊他回覆的內容多可笑啊三立製造假新聞被抓到甩鍋給民視 |
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還特別強調這個假訊息的來源是民進黨的立委吳佩奕想要脫免責任這是客觀的事實去看預算審查的結果就知道了散播假訊息配合民進黨政府做大內宣嗎可以這樣幹嗎NCC這個案子要處理多久需要處理多久 處理半年處理一年 |
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跟委員報告 我們會進行 該有準確就提四月份提諮詢委員會之後因為現在委員會沒辦法組成所以大概會大概會持續的做到諮詢會議說得很好啊 現在委員會沒辦法組成你有接到指令說你要代理多久嗎有嗎沒有那奇怪了啊現在NCC主委的提名權在誰身上 |
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依據組織法的規定是行政院長行政院有提來嗎所以現在誰在癱瘓NCC還是為了要cover這些假訊息讓委員會沒辦法運作讓這些假新聞沒辦法處理我看不懂啊你們一方面在喊現在委員不夠沒辦法運作提名單又不送來立法院 |
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現在是在玩哪一齣啊當然這不是你的責任啊你也很無奈 因為你是代理主委嘛奇怪了 卓榮泰為什麼都不提還是他在下好大的一盤棋讓你們沒辦法運作這些假新聞通通都沒辦法處理是這樣嗎 我完全看不懂啊完全看不懂來 我繼續再往下看喔所以現在很囂張欸 |
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上面寫說 來來來 我們來看一下這廣電媒體喔年代說柯文哲的賴微信有把妹對話 非常露骨這有沒有接到檢舉有處理的狀況怎麼樣已經上過諮詢會議了諮詢會議的結論是什麼諮詢會議的意見是公文會參考的就是一般 依照慣例是做成重要決定前的一些內部的資訊 |
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所以咧?所以沒辦法透露就對了嘛根據政府資訊公開法是對啦所以現在委員會委員人數不夠這個還是沒辦法處理嘛是嗎?是那就完全呼應我剛搶嘛卓榮泰為什麼不提主委就放任這些莫名其妙的媒體繼續造謠啊每天晚上造謠散播假訊息啊民進黨政府有多可笑啊 |
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一方面說要打假訊息另外一方面縱容這一種幫民進黨大內宣的廣電媒體在散播假訊息主委看到這些假訊息會不會覺得很痛心完全沒有事實根據胡說八道然後NCC也沒辦法處理人民為什麼憤怒人民為什麼憤怒 |
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這就是人民憤怒的理由嘛來 我們再往下看你們1月17號NCC的臉書貼啊說你們業務費3到1元你們NCC的業務費有被3到1元嗎 有嗎各位委員報告 這個時間點是在政黨那個提案 撤案之前的回應所以把時間點要所以在這個時間點本院的院會討論過了沒有有嗎沒有吧 |
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應該沒有吧本院的院會都還沒有討論過他即使不撤案你怎麼知道他會通過你們NCC帶頭散播假訊息喔大家有樣學樣啊這沒一體啊 |
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| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
我們那時候是呼籲說這種情況如果發生的話會有這種情境發生所以我們認為說最後有三道議員嗎 有還是沒有最後是因為他那案子撤掉了對嘛 就還沒有經過院會討論嘛這麼急喔幫忙配合做大內宣喔難怪這些廣電媒體有樣學樣 有恃無恐啊我們NCC就帶頭示範三波假訊息啦 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
356.161 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
380.212 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
我們大家蜂擁而上有什麼錯來沒關係你說打詐會遭到影響來來來來來2023年的時候針對非常多檢察官啊大家非常痛恨啊NCC前面的管制沒有做好結果呢讓這些詐騙集團拿到犯罪工具啊那個時候翁柏宗講什麼 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
381.4 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
398.492 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
要求業者自律 這個聽不下去啦 你要求詐騙集團自律這不是笑話嗎違者最高可罰新台幣500萬元 下一步要入法管制我從去年就開始追啦所以說奇怪了 甄傑的第二類電信業者提供第二類電信給詐騙集團使用 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
400.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
412.003 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
然後檢察官都起訴了然後你們都沒有處理陳耀祥說什麼我要等檢察官偵查結束啊才要去做行政裁處啊來檢察官偵查結束了沒有 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
414.056 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
439.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
個案上都還沒有 但是跟委員報告個案上還沒有哈囉哈囉哈囉現在雲林地方法院檢察署去年早就發新聞稿了 他偵查結束啦抱歉 我剛才是以為是法院判決不是啊 陳耀祥說要等到檢察官偵查起訴才要去做行政裁處啊是偵查結束了沒有檢察官的階段是結束了 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].start |
440.692 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
458.539 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
所以你們要等到什麼時候做裁處你們現在要跟我講說NCC的行政處分要等到法院確定判決像海峽那些其實都已經處分都已經裁處了你們處分什麼那個海峽電信二類電信業者海峽電信已經有裁處400多萬飛速移動呢飛速移動當時候他 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
465.148 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
479.017 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
他好像那個實質的內容你上面看我畫紅框那個代理主委你看一下如果你業務不熟我都幫你整理出來了來看一下裁罰時間內容與金額無裁罰時間內容與金額無奇怪是發生什麼事 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].start |
487.315 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
510.877 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
我看不懂啊還是說因為人家很夠力找到NCC前委員蕭其紅當門神所以NCC軟趴趴是這樣嗎絕對不是那如果不是你跟大家解釋一下一拖再拖啊拖到現在啊你還是沒處理啊這部分我們回去再了解需要多久 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].start |
513.386 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
538.958 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
一個禮拜之內喔好好跟大家講清楚說錢不夠不能打詐笑死人了檢察官偵查都終結了也都沒有裁罰跟錢有什麼關係錢給你你還是沒做啊一個禮拜喔書面回覆好好解釋清楚啊不要讓社會大眾人家說哇原來詐騙集團只要找NCC的前委員當門神就沒事了可以嗎可以嗎 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].start |
542.284 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
543.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
一個禮拜可以沒問題好謝謝 |