| IVOD_ID |
159661 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159661 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-27 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-27T09:38:46+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-27T09:52:50+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:04 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/ae27c1b40c0db900b3052af0771b2b01b4606480da88618dab2aca70ba98bac07cf64100f1aa8a575ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
吳思瑤 |
| 委員發言時間 |
09:38:46 - 09:52:50 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-27T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請考試院秘書長、考選部部長、銓敘部部長及公務人員保障暨培訓委員會主任委員列席報告業務概況及立法計畫，並備質詢。） |
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大家辛苦大家早安我今天有三個主題把握時間我就直接先進入下一頁我長期催生的心理健康假最近有兩個新生議題也就是昨天總統也宣布要投入五年六年五十億 |
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來投入全民心理健康的任性計劃這是賴總統再一次的宣示而且總統講得非常有道理沒有心理健康就沒有真正的健康這就是為什麼五四要是立法院第一個從校園到職場到公部門推動心理健康調適價我的信仰 |
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沒有心理健康就沒有真正的健康第二個呢最近有很多的立委在也提出了法案希望國家增加紀念日或是節日其實對我而言更重要的是我們在現有的請假制度裡頭給必要的公務人員必要當他真的有需求的時候那個假期對他是友善的而不是特定的哪些紀念日或假日 |
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下一頁所以說從校園到職場我記得我上一屆第一次質詢大學校長只有兩個學校有心理健康假現在已經有127所了然後呢高中職也全面的試辦這是我一路努力那最後呢 |
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最後關鍵的一理路 下一頁行政院已經正式希望能夠把政策上路行政院請求我們考試院這邊全序部來啟動公務人員請假規則的修訂 那我就問完成的期程是什麼 |
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各位委員報告我們已經接到行政院這個函3月17號那我們也會修正這個請教規則那我們會先做預告然後最後再送到考試院這樣我想這個社會爭議不會太多啦預告的時間我們盡快好嗎之前都邀請過機關討論過這個議題好 萬事俱備只欠東風我希望從校園到職場保障公務人員的心理健康我們繼續努力謝謝 下一頁 |
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接下來來講 非常遺憾 上個會期在我們其實以為不可我們認為世代正義持續要捍衛年金的永續是朝野共同的責任絕對不應當修法讓年改走回頭路但是這一屆的國會什麼都擋不住 |
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永遠在大開民主跟世代正義的倒車所以像個會期很遺憾通過了警察人員人事條例把 |
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警察人員的退休替代率又提高回調到八成下頁很多的論述很多的討論都在立法院即便這一屆真的是很難有理性跟充分討論的空間但是吳思瑤努力了民進黨團努力了我也看到部長 |
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歷次在法案的研修過程你勇敢的說出為現役現職在服務的年輕世代的公務人員說話這是我們的責任那我就要直接詢問前幾天立法院也很奇怪自己通過的三讀法案現在都可以一下子要冷凍就冷凍一下子要放在立法院當人質當肉票這水藍白他愛怎樣就怎樣 |
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警察人員人事條例呢 國民黨通過了結果自己又把它複譯 複譯住了但是這一週最新的進度 它已經往前挺進也就是他們自行表決 透過表決解除了立法院內部的那個複譯所以說這個法案恐怕馬上要進入公告那請問過去國會擴權法案 各個憲政機關 |
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包括總預算案 包括選罷法 限訴法各個憲法機關都會提出他憲法賦予的救濟程序那就反年改的法案的部分因為這只是第一步 後面還有公交如果前面沒有防堵 後面大車就壓近了你們會採取什麼樣子的憲法救濟程序 |
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跟委員報告現在警察人員是條例因為他是行政院主管的法案你們支持行政院提復議嗎?這個應該讓行政院這邊做他的決定但是這個案子我想考試院的態度一直也很一致 |
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就是因為這個制度的修改它的確造成了警察跟非警察的公務人員他違反憲法的平等權會有不平等的狀況所以這個部分我們後續支持行政院對於復議提出的考量那後續考試院本於憲政機關有沒有考量提請釋憲的就計這個部分在後續的程序上我想要在院裡面要再做一個意見的交換 |
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我們都予以尊重我們尊重五院之間平等相為但是憲法賦予我們的救濟程序窮盡一切的努力我們要捍衛世代的正義我們不能讓年改開倒車這是我的期許但我尊重考試院的決定窮盡一切的努力來挽救來補救有多少個現役的在場所有的 |
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公務人員他們的權益國家要保障年改要永續年改要永續就是不分誰執政我們都要捍衛的價值 |
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最後一個我要請我們劉部長還有我們蔡主委一起上來因為這涉及預算下一頁這一波總預算被二砍二動其實這個影響是全方位各個院紀當然考試院lucky一點 |
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我們的監察院實在是美丁美當 所以監察院已經任無可忍提起釋憲了但是就我去影響 雖然我知道考試院影響沒有那麼嚴重 但還是很嚴重喔譬如說 程序部先來喔 程序部的這個延續性的業務費 |
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被刪了大概9.98%被刪10%這是通刪另外又凍結了三成所以加起來是近四成的預算受影響就我所理解你們的基本行政工作受阻水電費 油資 勞務委託費用大概到十月的緊繃啊啦只能維持到十月 |
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資訊系統跟資安的維護啊就攸關全國公務人員的人士任用的調度運作這個系統也會受影響當然居然連公務人員傑出貢獻獎是不是要暫緩辦理啊不然怎麼辦因為如果沒有我們確實是被刪了一千多萬然後凍結了兩千五百萬左右那對我們基本支出來講構成很大影響如果到時候沒有這個經費當然我們就必須要有優先順序的考量 |
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所以公務人員結束貢獻獎真的不辦了嗎那個是有獎金的部分我們是沒有辦法發放所以我要為所有努力的公務人員報屈啊從來沒有這個這個獎開始辦理到現在有停過嗎沒有從來沒有停過這代表國家對於優秀公務人員結束貢獻的一個honor嘛沒錯 |
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我要讓台灣社會看看要讓所有的公教人員看看我們的權益是誰讓我們受到了影響跟剝奪 |
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好嗎 來下一個再來是考選部跟保訓會齁其實大家都相關啦二砍二動預算是公務人員的基本權利教考訓用都受影響保訓會喔你們的被刪減32.46%被凍結了又30%欸這裡數字弄錯囉加起來刪凍是將近六成 對不起這個update 沒錯嘛齁 |
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主委文官學院也是一樣啊被刪減了8.3%那我說把大家都請上來因為所有的教考訓用都受到影響基礎訓練跟升官等的訓練經費因為被刪減所有的原定編班的額度就大幅下修對不對對公務人員如果沒有完成基礎訓練 |
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就是剝奪了他成為正式公務人員服務國家的機會對不對可以這樣說以及影響考試已經錄取人員的任用考機進修支領生活金資助跟加班費等權益受影響人數至少會有1397人我的數字正確嗎 |
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沒錯 那這當中基訓跟這個升官等訓練加起來的確是1397人好 我們看下一頁更進一步 |
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開不了的班升不了的官提升不了的公務人員服務國家的品質因為惡砍惡動預算造成我們的訓練鍛煉連公務人員優秀的努力的想辦法升遷他再進修他的升遷門檻因此都縮水我以基礎訓練來說原定的開班數額會從30班降到14班因為沒錢啊 |
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實體課程本來是四週濃縮變三週而且我一直說文化訓練要加強文化素養在公務人員要提升所以文化一定要onside learning一定要去實體訓練結果你們現在沒辦法連實體課程都要少一週基礎訓練會影響853人左右影響公務人員的任用跟進修而在升官等訓練的話 |
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健身檢的調訓比例從22%降到14%尾身健的調身比例也減少了一點多%影響人數也高達544人對於升遷跟奉祈都受影響您可不可以再進一步的告訴我們你們現在受到多大的困擾跟衝擊影響所有公務人員的訓練升遷 |
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好跟委員說明就是說第一點就是說當然這個訓練及格呢是基礎訓練是整個我們公務人員考試的一個一環所以呢雖然說他可以追溯但是呢這當中他的加班費還有生活津貼還有這個考機等等都會受到影響那我們公務人員的這個職養呢其實是一環一環相扣的 |
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那如果是那因為再加上就是說我們本來是四週的實體課程那從今年開始的這個地方特考呢我們就變成是三加一有一週呢就是請他在安全的地方自己看這些數位課程那對於升官等訓練的影響呢它的影響其實也很大 |
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那升遷奉集後面的升遷然後呢因為這些人都是已經暫缺的所以只要他升官等訓練一級格通過的話他馬上就可以進一級那這影響到他後續的退休金跟後面的升遷那至於這個高階的部分特別就是檢認以上的健身檢的這一塊 |
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那本來每一年是三梯次那現在只能變成兩梯次而且呢因為水電費也是通山所以呢我們目前就是只能在天氣比較舒適的狀態底下吊兩梯那 |
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其實過去原本呢第二梯是在暑就是在夏天的時候因為那時候會期大家比較有空來可是呢因為經費包含水電等等所以我們目前呢就是只能釣這個春秋二季這兩梯謝謝主委我知道如果受到波及影響我給你半個小時你也說不完啦因為我時間資訊有限謝謝你的清楚說明讓社會看清楚 |
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公務人員的權益因為誰而受害因為立法院惡砍惡動預算對於公務人員來講我的心中沒有顏色沒有政黨因為他們都是服務國家都是國家的中間我要再次說如果在野黨的委員一昧的只想去修年改的法案 |
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820.903 |
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要去做個別的鐵票的籠絡討好特定的族群而不去看看他們現在二砍二篩預算造成的限職公務統人他的升遷他的奉給他的福利他的權益他的任用他的進修全面受到影響這種在野黨對國家毫不忠誠對憲法毫不忠誠對人民毫不忠誠去改反年改的法案 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].start |
822.439 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].end |
842.678 |
| transcript.whisperx[36].text |
討好特定族群對於現役公務人員的權益他們不顧我認為這個是比可惡更可惡無論如何我們撐下去各種方法想方設法希望能夠化解這一年在預算衝擊造成的災禍災難大家加油辛苦了謝謝 |