| IVOD_ID |
159639 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159639 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-5 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
5 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-26T12:10:26+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-26T12:24:38+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:14:12 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8cb7ec0b2cd1ea34d68efe33b4ffa6f2280a1269ac70bedc0b0900eab363510fe00a675d9541ec565ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
陳亭妃 |
| 委員發言時間 |
12:10:26 - 12:24:38 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第5次全體委員會議（事由：邀請農業部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月26日及27日二天一次會】） |
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謝謝主席 我們請部長好 請部長喂吼 |
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部長這個待會的話題我先跟部長報告一下就是說我們現在因為天氣的問題那前陣子是寒極地瓜新化跟新式那麼第一時間我們也去現場看那麼在目前為止好像我們也還沒得到 |
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這個部分我們速度真的有點慢第二個部分就是芒果其實我相信這種天氣所以現在是芒果後面可能還有荔枝 龍眼這個陸續都一定會發生相關的問題那麼我相信在3月19號 |
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我們辦公室就向農業部發文了要求要重視我們的芒果還有我們的相關這些荔枝龍眼果樹的問題有玉井南西南化佐鎮大內然後還有相關其他的區域希望要多去關心那3月24號我們農業部就迅速發文給市府農業局要求速報部長我今天為什麼要特別提出這個問題 |
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其實我們一定要製造在整個我們農損的速報甚至SOP要把它建立起來過去就是因為地方政府都在等中央可是這是錯的啊每次我們去看完之後還是要速報啊可是我們當時候都是上面先做然後地方慢做所以導致農民都覺得怎麼速度這麼慢 |
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所以我當時候地瓜的時候 你知道嗎 連同這次芒果也是連地瓜 我跟農民說 你趕快 趕快去補 去居公所速報 |
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然後也還拜託議員 陳B議員跟李偉智議員結果呢 沒有到達20% 怎麼可能 光我們知道的資料就有了農民都說 沒有啦 我們如果去 一定都會被記住因為中央還沒有資料 |
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我說錯了你們要先去訴報要讓區公所知道你們有這些損害那麼他才能收集這些資料給農業局再統一給農業部農業部才能派相關人員來做會刊對不對這是程序嘛可是我們到目前為止地方政府其實還不知道這樣的程序 |
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這是很危險的啊所以當時候地瓜的時候還拜託議員去拜託區公所去奉上有受損地瓜的農民趕快來區公所訴報這樣才達到20%欸否則農民都覺得說那補也不好 那給區公所說也不好啊 |
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所以這次芒果也是耶 芒果當時候 當農民跟我反應的時候我就跟農民說你趕快 你去跟區公所訴訟說要不好了 連農會的總幹事也這樣的認為喔我說你錯了 你們趕快去跟區公所說 |
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區公所才會知道你們已經有損害了那農業部已經知道了農業部已經透過我我已經正式發文他農業部知道了可是地方政府還是要統一這些資料送到農業部農業部已經在這邊等了還好我們一直追3月24號你們發了這個文給地方這是我們追的 |
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追這張文很辛苦耶3月20日你們才發給農業局農業局在3月25日才發文給各區公所說趕快去了解所有災損的狀況我今天會拿這個講就是說我們的SOP一直以來都沒建立起來導致農民都覺得我們慢半拍 |
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到底是誰賣的不知道啊各位 第一件最簡單的一句話就說阿勒農業報啊那你不是很委屈你們不是很委屈嗎問題是第一階段區公所都還沒報資料農業局都還沒報資料那光有我們我想你們是第一時間在3月19號應該我是最快發文給你們 因為我跟農民的關係不一樣 |
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他們是信任我們所以發生什麼問題都會跟我們講說這道火線開得很漂亮但是都沒調過因為天氣天氣的因素所以部長會用這個部分就是說請把SOP建立起來我已經講了數次了可是這個SOP還是沒有建立起來 |
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我跟委員報告SOP就在這一邊那是公所的人裝傻啦我敢這樣講啦就是他們用被動的方式去處理那農業部現在目前有這樣子的農民有速報的方式那我們也保留一個彈性我們可以 |
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主動公告所以我們改良廠其實非常辛苦他們隨時在掌握這個狀況所以就是因為你們還有另外一個叫主動公告所以地方政府就說你們都去找立委立委可以叫農業部主動公告問題是他們根本都沒有清楚到底所有的災損狀況 |
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因為我們的災損要公告要到達百分之二十我們的所謂農業部直接公告就像說有天災那個一下子颱風下來全部都吹到倒上去 那就不用再說了那個就可以主動公告可是像這種有延遲性的或是有這種天氣變化的每一個地方都不一樣 |
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所以就一定要由各區公所來做一個處理那不是區公所裝傻連農業局都在裝傻我想這個部分我想我會再跟地方政府做一個比較明確的指引我覺得這個要要求那第二個部分就是您所關切的芒果的部分因為它有生理弱果的現象所以它相對的比較困難一點我們會等生理弱果的時候才會去確認沒有啦 部長我告訴你 |
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他們現在 他們都是轉嫁的啦 整個花瀉掉就沒有過那還有什麼叫生理弱果的狀況所以我告訴你 你們不要用你們既定的他們現在通報了 現在的狀況就是花瀉掉 結果乾乾淨淨的過都不一樣就像地瓜 你知道嗎 一個半月的地瓜本來是要這樣子 |
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正常是這個樣子可是在這一次在心事跟心話 你知道變成怎樣連一隻手指頭都不夠連一隻這樣子 這一隻手指頭都沒有辦法 |
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就跟過去的生長狀況都不一樣了你要等什麼你還要等什麼好啦 部長我們有一個專業的團隊改良的專業團隊會去判斷我告訴你 你的專業要不要聽到齁都輸人在基站在第一線在撐這個農民啦你這樣說對我們研究人員是一種侮辱啦我們有侮辱喔 部長部長 你這樣講你要小心喔我們有侮辱喔我都很尊重我們的基層人員喔 |
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我哪一句話侮辱我們的七城特約是你們要你們要節哀人家地方的聲音你們過去都站在你們的專業立場你們完全沒有跟地方人在地方爭外顧啊人爭外顧啊農民狠天災害不一定也不是災害我告訴你啦 部長就像我跟你講的啊你的漢籍本來這麼大口 一個半月要這麼大口個月存一支都不夠 |
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過去已經違反到之前的生長季現在它落果之後 那花落了之後果完全沒有 那一看就知道了這個我有看過 在之前 在好幾年前的關田就是這個樣子 |
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所以部長你不用替我遞帽子了我都很尊重我們的基站領域我沒有尊重所以你不用戴我帽子我站在的是農民的立場我希望我們專業人員也能夠聽到我們地方農民的聲音這是我一直的堅持對過去到現在我的立場都很一樣我沒有侮辱任何一個專業人員請部長也不要給我戴帽子 |
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我如果講侮辱 冒犯令我可以道歉但是我對我們的專業 我時間有限啦我再來跟部長請教啦我們後輩都難忘乎啦我們現在的人力編制跟組織編制到底怎麼解決啦 |
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我們現在目前就承包我們的中南農公共建設這是基礎備用那更重要就是人力組織的部分重點是你們的人力編制跟機關整個組織編制嘛有錢沒有人要怎麼辦那行政院再審一個組織他不會說這個禮拜去下個禮拜就下來了什麼時候嘛從去年一直談的就是這個議題嘛你去看我講這個蘭花園區 |
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我告訴你 部長不是只有你 我跟你講而已從陳其仲主委一直到現在我每次 後避蘭花園區我們怎麼提高他的位階我們一直談到的就是這個掛牌之後 不要讓他只有掛牌 |
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所以現在我們這個計畫花卉產業創新園區我們已經進入公建計畫沒錯可是你有公建計畫你有這個預算問題是你的人員組織到底我們要等到什麼時候現在的關卡在哪裡 |
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我跟委員報告一個組織的轉變跟籌設不是說我們報了以後准了就下來是 現在的關鍵在哪裡人總本身還要去詢問各單位的意見然後完了以後還要送到行政院你們現在打算要讓他跟什麼結合 |
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我們現在跟農業縣所的花卉分所結合啊對啊 你們跟花卉分所結合嘛所以你們農業部這邊的人力問題都沒有問題嘛所以現在是在人事總數沒有 總人數我們也會做傾升 |
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提升嘛 我是說你們的部分你們都檢討完了嘛我們已經3月17號已經送到人員那邊去了你們都檢討完了 現在到底卡關卡在哪裡沒有 現在就是人事總署他循程序要去問各機關的意見嘛 |
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那多久?不知道這個要人總那邊所以你們3月17號送了我們該做的我們都做了你們做了3月17號你們送了在整個蘭花園區的人力編制跟機關組織編制你們3月17號就送了現在在等行政院人事總署現在在詢問每一個地方他們的意見那人事總署現在你們有去接洽他的意見如何?審議中審議中,意見呢? |
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沒有 他全部繞完了以後他才會給我們意見然後請我們提供意見再送回去因為一個組織要重新建立沒有那麼簡單所以部長所以你們現在沒辦法掌控狀況只是你能夠掌控是你們現在資料都送出去了對 然後我們盡可能去說服跟花卉實驗所結合送出去了然後提升人力組織跟那個結合然後提升人力然後就看人事總署怎麼處理了是不是是好 安 |
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希望一個月你隨時跟我們報告狀況可以嗎我想我會隨時把這個進度跟委員說明可以嗎可以否則我們在這邊講得很大聲然後人家又這樣給你順便看到底怎麼樣都不知道沒有沒有 我跟你報告真正的啟動是在2月初才啟動的所以這個速度來講其實已經是蠻快的 |
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是二月份才啟動我們已經講多久了我們講多久了部長我們從去年就開始講了講人力組織喔對啊所以你們就慢了半拍我們從去年就開始講了如果這個行政院沒有同意的時候你動都沒有用所以我們花了很多時間跟人走做溝通這也是委員在幫忙的 |
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好啦我這個我擺的那麼辛苦啦拜託主席給我這就是後邊藍花橫枯那個部長你知道這是什麼嗎等一下可以來放一下好這是什麼嗎你知不知道這是藍展的公仔啊公仔啊這叫什麼這叫什麼你看你都不知道你看你都不知道這叫什麼奧奇壽啊奧奇壽啊叫什麼奧奇壽啊來我不知道這叫我們的藍花壽 |
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所以我是要推未來我們應該要把這個公仔推廣出去這個才是我們的重點啦我們要有一個吉祥物代表我們的貨幣蘭花園區吉祥物放主席台前面他就可以隨時入境進入農業部再跟 |