| IVOD_ID |
159633 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159633 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-26 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-20-4 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
4 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
20 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
財政委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-26T11:49:54+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-26T12:01:53+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:11:59 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/8cb7ec0b2cd1ea34a517fe6435a7d9449336bc333af6bdb00b0900eab363510f1c9e0eb0984d72d55ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
王世堅 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:49:54 - 12:01:53 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-26T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期財政委員會第4次全體委員會議（事由：邀請金融監督管理委員會彭主任委員金隆率所屬機關首長暨中央存款保險股份有限公司、監管相關機構有關之財團法人、臺灣證券交易所股份有限公司、臺灣期貨交易所股份有限公司、臺灣集中保管結算所股份有限公司等董事長、總經理列席業務報告，並備質詢。
【3月24日及26日二天一次會】） |
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主席我請彭主委在座請主席好彭主委是這個 |
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我看你上任到現在為止的表現其實我給你的分數是90分啦我認為你確實是任勞任怨也很實質在做對金管業務的推動這一點我是很肯定你尤其是對鼠條三兄弟這個把他納入金保法給他們一個重量的機會 |
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那他們也這麼做啦只是後續的推動薯條三兄弟似乎啊還並沒有很誠意的來跟有受到委屈的貸款戶做債務協商那當然這後續後續我們會再來推再進一步的就是金融租賃公司的專法來管理他們 |
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那我今天要跟你談的這個這個案子我是希望我們監管會下去做行政調查能夠做行政處分就是關於一個叫做泰坤 |
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建設那他們做了一個大的連帶案這個叫做他的建案名稱叫泰瑟治善園這是一個蠻龐大的2300多坪土地的都更案那這個都更案竟然涉及龐大金額的炸帶案總共這個 |
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貸款金額86億那現在已經被銀行打入預放的部分就已經有58億之多那這個部分受損受傷害最嚴重的不是銀行喔銀行還其次最大的受害人是這個都更案裡面的原住戶原地主們 |
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早知道那他不要參與都更就好啊參與都更那舊房子被拆了離鄉背井大家釋善到各地去住那就是等著這個案子能夠趕快都更完成他們能夠搬回來結果拖了八九年到現在遙遙無期有的人從他在 |
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市的時候簽了這樣子的約 一直到他過世都沒辦法進到這個都更案裡面來安享萬年 都沒辦法這個他的總銷戶是497戶啦 |
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那第一個我要說的是一開始啊這個案子為什麼涉及炸彈呢他是找安信建金公司這家泰坤建設找安信建金辦理那麼安信建金很可能某個程度跟他們有默契合作竟然詐騙這些參與都更的 |
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無主們 住戶們如果跟他們說來用信託的方式但是安信建金既非銀行業 更非信託業他怎麼可以來做信託業務呢這第一點 這個要查的部分第二點 就是說 |
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融資給他的金額這些融資專款要進到信託戶啊那結果成立了信託戶竟然貸款給他的這些金額通通沒有進到信託戶這第二大錯誤喔第三點 |
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這原來主辦這個連帶的銀行是合作金庫那合作金庫的問題我另外講合作金庫先前就涉及很多大型大金額的詐貸案比方說列了一件大家很清楚嗎 |
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那其他幾個大金額的我就不講我講上百億的就光列了一件那個的危害不但危害我們國家金融銀行行庫這樣的損失而且還妨礙到 |
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我們國家安全 列雷劍的製造結果竟然遙遙無期就被那個惡劣的慶富公司捲走了一百多億現在人逃到中共去啊 逃到中國大陸去啊你看這多可惡的事情同樣在列雷劍上面動手腳的這一群 |
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我剛剛提到的合作金庫他們的高層同樣現在也涉及這個太困難天啊那後來當然這個被發現怪怪的因為他做成了這個案子以後就跑到土地銀行去啦結果接手的合庫董事長很不錯他發現這個有問題趕快那個金額沒有全部再放出去又把他停止 |
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停止之後這一群竄逃到土營去的人他們又另起爐灶又把這個案子接手過去做那這個真的是很可惡的事情 |
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那可惡的事情還一條就是說竟然還被爆出而且實質被查出來喔竟然在這一些大型行庫之間穿梭啊 擔任白手套的人竟然是個 哇 自稱國師的在看土地的 看風水的侏羅山人天啊 曾幾何時 |
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看風水的竟然涉入這種炸彈的穿梭而且還涉入這些銀行高層人士轉來轉去不可思議的事情欸好了 那就我舉個例子喔還有個可惡的事情在他們的人士穿梭下參與連帶的有土銀 |
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先前和庫轉到土銀連帶裡面的一家連帶銀行也是我們公營航庫台灣中小企銀他參與這個連帶案竟然還推薦管理人 |
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高階的管理人推薦給這家太坤公司天啊去幫他們做什麼這個太坤啊這個集團還出了這一張 |
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就聘請這一位先生蔡先生啦中小企業的蔡先生到這邊幫他們做什麼呢做行政管理業務總務法務還有做什麼會計出納財務管理天啊那跟銀行貸款就是財務管理啊竟然有連帶行我們的公營行庫 |
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把人介紹到他那邊然後去擔任這麼高階的工作這個位階可能比總經理還高啦好啦那我現在要問的就是說 |
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第一個我們金管會是不是應該因為現在這個案子已經到司法單位了那這個地檢署也已經起訴了但是那是司法調查行政調查的部分應該由金管會接手我們要下去辦第二點我希望辦得快速做的行政調查跟行政處分要能夠快過司法調查才有道理司法調查 |
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540.518 |
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563.494 |
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然後這一群人 這一群這幾家銀行這些高層現在這家泰坤改名改一個字叫泰雲那負責人朱婉清就是先前泰坤負責人這位楊岳修負責人董事長 |
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564.893 |
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589.314 |
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是他公司的職員而且他這一位朱婉清女士還是詐欺的前科犯耶天啊那我為什麼提到這個那他改名太原公司就算了另外一家公司重啟爐灶幹什麼他們又要去板橋要去談一個都更案那個面積 |
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592.437 |
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597.141 |
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1171坪 涉及的 它地上蓋24層 地下要蓋5層又涉及那麼多的民眾住戶來參與都更 |
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606.141 |
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634.836 |
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那如果再一次的被他們得逞你看有多少住戶多少民眾會對都更絕望失望絕望難怪我們現在都更到處處處碰壁很難有真正要做都更的人能夠成功的去做成都更因為都被這些炸彈集團炸彈的二職建商那他們 |
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636.789 |
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659.615 |
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去毀壞掉啦那當然今天時間有限我希望說你能夠最短時間內齁我最後那個主席我最後強調一點然後有一個任務我希望那個彭書煒你能夠處理就是說是不是是不是你要督促這些銀行除了查這些事以外是不是請這些銀行要幫 |
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661.495 |
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684.006 |
| transcript.whisperx[28].text |
這些參與都更無辜受害的這些民眾他們現在成立自救會他們這個房屋土地都交出來了現在能夠住進去遙遙無期所以這個部分是不是銀行能夠幫助他們怎麼樣達成交屋然後分屋貸款他們也同意做分屋貸款 |
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684.666 |
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700.801 |
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那這個部分是不是能夠幫幫這個自救會好 那我希望你在最短的期限內後調查清楚以後能夠給本席一個答覆好不好是一個調查的報告可不可以可以 沒問題好 謝謝謝謝王委員質詢下面請張祺凱委員質詢 |