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IVOD_ID 15949
IVOD_URL https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Full/1M/15949
日期 2024-05-21
會議資料.會議代碼 院會-11-1-14
會議資料.會議代碼:str 第11屆第1會期第14次會議
會議資料.屆 11
會議資料.會期 1
會議資料.會次 14
會議資料.種類 院會
會議資料.標題 立法院第11屆第1會期第14次會議
影片種類 Full
開始時間 2024-05-21T18:40:00+08:00
結束時間 2024-05-21T23:47:00+08:00
影片長度 05:07:00
支援功能[0] ai-transcript
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會議時間 2024-05-21T09:00:00+08:00
會議名稱 第11屆第1會期第14次會議(事由:一、討論事項:本院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查台灣民眾黨黨團、委員楊瓊瓔等20人、委員傅崐萁等52人、委員傅崐萁等52人分別擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」、委員翁曉玲等16人擬具「立法院職權行使法第十五條、第二十九條及第四十四條條文修正草案」、委員傅崐萁等52人、委員翁曉玲等16人分別擬具「立法院職權行使法第十五條之一、第十五條之二及第十五條之四條文修正草案」、委員吳宗憲等16人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」、委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法第十七條條文修正草案」、委員吳宗憲等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」、委員吳宗憲等16人擬具「立法院職權行使法第十五條之一、第十五條之二及第十五條之四條文修正草案」、委員賴瑞隆等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法第十五條之二條文修正草案」、委員賴士葆等20人擬具「立法院職權行使法增訂部分條文草案」、委員吳宗憲等18人擬具「立法院職權行使法第二十五條及第二十六條條文修正草案」及委員翁曉玲等18人擬具「立法院職權行使法第二十五條條文修正草案」案;本院委員羅智強等31人擬具「立法院職權行使法第二十二條、第二十三條及第二十八條條文修正草案」,請審議案;本院委員羅智強等16人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」,請審議案;本院委員呂玉玲等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法第十五條之一條文修正草案」,請審議案;本院委員呂玉玲等16人擬具「立法院職權行使法增訂第二十八條之三及第二十八條之四條文草案」,請審議案;本院委員鄭天財SraKacaw等19人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」,請審議案;本院委員翁曉玲等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案」,請審議案;本院委員羅智強等22人擬具「立法院職權行使法第二十五條條文修正草案」,請審議案;本院委員李彥秀等17人擬具「立法院職權行使法第三十一條及第七十一條之一條文修正草案」,請審議案等11案。 二、5月17日上午9時至10時為國是論壇時間。 三、5月21日下午5時至6時為處理臨時提案時間。)
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transcript.whisperx[0].text 好謝謝謝謝謝謝謝謝謝謝報告院會我們現在繼續開會現在進行第31條報告院會本條國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提修正動議條文測案不再處理請宣讀民進黨黨團再修正動議條文
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transcript.whisperx[4].text 他們的目的就跟現在一樣他們現在就在藐視人民全國的人民看得下去嗎內容即將如果照他們的版本通過他們會侵害企業的隱私他們會迫害政府的官員他們會侵害人民的自由拜託全國的人民大家一起站出來今天的這個惡法一旦收過
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transcript.whisperx[8].text 現在場外所有的民眾都覺得黃國昌在這裡像個小丑一樣請全國的人民看出來現在台上的這些國民黨跟民眾黨現在正在侵害你們的權益沒有討論就不是民主他們不想讓大家知道的事就是他們包藏禍心侵害民生侵害民主的惡法拜託大家
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transcript.whisperx[10].text 立法院司法及法制委員會報告併案審查台灣民眾黨黨團提議採用點名表決,針對是否採用點名表決,現在進行舉手表決,贊成民眾黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[11].text 報告委員會欽點人數現在109位委員贊成人數50人贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行重複舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[14].text 報告委員會宣布重複表決結果在場人數109人、贊成60人、贊成者多數我們宣告停止討論通過請問院會第31條照民進黨黨團再修正鬥議條文通過有無異議有異議
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transcript.whisperx[16].text 國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第44條全院委員會審查後提出院會以記名投票表決如今全體立法委員三分之二以上決議向司法院大法官提出彈劾案民進黨黨團在修正動議第44條維持現行法不予修正宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[17].text 報告委員會宣讀完畢現在依登記順序發言我們請張雅玲委員發言請大家保持肅靜尊重發言委員請
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transcript.whisperx[18].text 《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、
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transcript.whisperx[19].text 十年前我和我的夥伴們坐在場外反黑箱跟著黃國昌老師喊這個口號沒有想到十年之後我們還要站在雨中我在立法院跟著大家一起來反黑箱這是多麼的荒謬啊在場還有許多國會、國民黨的委員曾經在民間跟我們一起爭取兒童參與特色公園的建設
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transcript.whisperx[37].text 報告院會宣告表決結果在場109位委員表決贊成59人贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團條文請舉手舉手
transcript.whisperx[38].start 2011.247
transcript.whisperx[38].end 2016.436
transcript.whisperx[38].text 立法院職權行使法第六條及第十七條及第八六條結合補併程要初心人數了結同時計算
transcript.whisperx[39].start 2068.891
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transcript.whisperx[39].text 本院會宣布重複表決結果在場109位委員、贊成60人、贊成者多數作以下宣告第44條照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過
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transcript.whisperx[40].text 國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第八章,調查權之形式。民進黨黨團在修正動議第八章,院會之調查權,宣讀完畢。國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第八章,調查權之形式。國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第八章,調查權之形式。國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第八章,調查權之形式。國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第八章,調查權之形式。國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案在修正動議第
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transcript.whisperx[41].text 各位我敬愛的同事還有在場外敬愛的民眾今天我們站在這裡從一進場我們的訴求就是一個退回審查退回審查逐條審查為什麼上個禮拜五我們在這裡所看見的版本是517當天才出現的法案版本
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transcript.whisperx[42].text 只有兩天的時間沒有討論、沒有審查藍白就要強行把它通過我想問各位身為立法委員你們對得起人民嗎藍白提出來的版本過去從沒有出現在委員會沒有出現在公聽會通通都沒有請你尊重我的發言
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transcript.whisperx[43].text 立法院必須要對人民負責今天我們在講的調查權藍白想要擴選只要立委想要調查部隊、調查人民團體、調查公司、交給提供資料通通都要提供如果不提供立法院要罰款、罰款這罰款由誰決定的由院會來表決就像各位今天看到荒謬的現場
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transcript.whisperx[44].text 這些人舉手,就想要來調查、就想要來處罰民眾這麼嚴重的擴權,我想請問各位為什麼我們不需要逐條討論以及審查這個法案是誰寫的?
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transcript.whisperx[45].text 黃國昌說是他跟翁曉玲兩個人寫出來的我想請問提案人你們為什麼沒有來議場負責任的向人民說明我想請問韓國瑜院長從上個禮拜五到現在為什麼一直沒收我們的發言這個第八章調查權我們民進黨登記了51個人我們要發言我們要51個人要發言
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transcript.whisperx[46].text 藍白強行碾壓只讓我們一個人發言而這個發言並不是實質的審查所以我們的訴求今天的會議、上禮拜的會議通通是無效會議請問沒有宣讀條文有效嗎?請問初期108人投出110票計票錯誤的決議有效嗎?請問黃國昌當年你主張
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transcript.whisperx[47].text 密室協商要全程公開直播這是民進黨過去八年完成的國會改革各位現在正在收看的國會頻道全程直播是民進黨過去八年的國會改革我們支持國會改革但是今天黃國昌剛剛他做了什麼事
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transcript.whisperx[48].text 當團協商的時候他說不准直播黃國昌說協商不准直播當年黃國昌說不准民事協商今天的黃國昌不准直播黃國昌你背叛民主背叛選運請你站出來負責任地向全國人民說明
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transcript.whisperx[49].text 謝謝謝謝謝謝吳佩奕委員的發言報告院會順由國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議
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transcript.whisperx[50].text 國民黨在保護黃國昌啊國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨國民黨
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transcript.whisperx[51].text 報告院會現由民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[52].text 贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[53].text 立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文
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transcript.whisperx[54].text 委員會現有出席委員109人、贊成者0人、贊成者少數。
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transcript.whisperx[55].text 民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[56].text 委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文
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transcript.whisperx[57].text 報告院會出席109位委員、贊成者一人、贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現在針對國民黨黨團提議停止討論進行表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[58].text 法院會初席委員109位贊成60位贊成者多數法院會現由民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[59].text 官院會報告重複表決結果在場109人贊成60人重複表決贊成者多數宣告停止討論通過官院會現在進行處理第八章依序進行表決如果其中任何一案通過即不再處理其他案
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transcript.whisperx[60].text 請問議員會第8案照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議張明通過有無異議沒有沒有異議好有異議我們現在表決
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transcript.whisperx[61].text 現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決。針對是否採用點名表決,現在進行舉手表決。贊成民進黨黨團提議,請舉手。
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transcript.whisperx[62].text 委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「
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transcript.whisperx[63].text 法國院會出席人數109人、贊成53人、贊成少數民進黨黨團提議不通過法國院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[64].text 報告院會出席委員109人、贊成人數50人、贊成少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會第八章舉手表決贊成國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議的張銘請舉手贊成舉手舉手
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transcript.whisperx[65].text 報告委員會現在宣布表決結果在場109人贊成60人贊成者多數報告委員會現由民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團在修正動議張明請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[66].text 報告委員會在場委員109人重複表決贊成60人、贊成者多數作以下宣告第八章 照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議張明通過我們現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[67].text 報告院會我們現在繼續開會現在進行第45條請宣讀條文國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同提案再修正動議第45條立法院為有效行使憲法所賦予之職權得經院會決議涉調查委員會或得經委員會之決議涉調查專案小組對相關議案或與立法委員職權相關知識項行使調查權及調閱權
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transcript.whisperx[68].text 調查委員會或調查專案小組得要求有關機關就特地應案、涉及事項提供參考資料並得舉行聽證、要求有關人員出席提供證言及資料、物件、聽證相關事項依第九章之一之規定。調查委員會之名稱、調查事項、目的、方法及成員人數由院會議決之。調查專案小組之名稱、調查事項、目的、方法及成員人數由委員會議決之。
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transcript.whisperx[69].text 民進黨黨團再修正動議第45條立法院今院會決議得涉調查委員會就特地依案行使調查權且上調查權之行使僅於與憲法賦予立法院之職權有重大關聯之範圍內使得為之調查委員會行使調查權處得要求有關機關構就議案涉及四項提供參考文件外必要時並得調閱議案
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transcript.whisperx[70].text 設計事項之文件原本或要求機關構提供其他資料或物件或以舉行調查公聽會之方式邀請機關構出席表達意見或學者專家出具專業意見宣讀完畢報告宣言會現在依登記順序發言首先我們請王定宇委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[71].text 現在在青島東路跟中山南路上面年輕的上班族剛下班有北玉女的同學有許多同學從青島東路一直到濟南教會當中有一個政大的老師他的名字叫保羅他拿到台灣的永久居留證
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transcript.whisperx[72].text 他問著,為什麼不讓不同意見的人發表意見?國會的擴權法案,為什麼不聽聽不一樣的意見?這樣的國會荒腔走板,台灣還是民主國家嗎?下課的時候,有一群北玉女的同學來到青島東路跟中山南路口,他們問,為什麼要沒收討論?
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transcript.whisperx[73].text 這一次我們審議的議案攸關著國會的運作攸關著立法行政院際的互動攸關著如果你被列為關係人的時候不管你是公務員、政府人員或者是全國超過6萬的人民團體或者超過78萬間的公司或者2300萬人甚至於部隊都能夠被國會調查
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transcript.whisperx[74].text 當面對懲處的時候我們的立法院可以讓這些人面對罰款、面對徒刑這些法案難道不值得好好討論嗎?這樣子的擴權叫做改革嗎?為什麼國會的改革卻是讓立法院的權力越來越大卻沒有自我監督跟反省?
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transcript.whisperx[75].text 在委員會審查的時候、沒收討論全部的提案都保留在黨團協商的時候沒有辦法逐條協商全部保留來到我們現在的院會進行審議的時候登記發言每一條只准一個人三分鐘講話
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transcript.whisperx[76].text 其他的通通沒收登記發言為什麼不敢讓人討論為什麼不讓人家講話縱使表決有輸有贏怎麼可以不讓這些議案這麼重要的案子在這裡討論在委員討論在黨團協商討論
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transcript.whisperx[77].text 這些討論的過程是有意義的文字的修改條文之間的矛盾甚至於有一些法律的見解都要不同難道不應該討論難道不應該讓來自不同選區人民選出來的國會議員在這裡展現不同的民意為什麼要沒收我們的討論韓國瑜院長為什麼不讓我們講話
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transcript.whisperx[78].text 委員傅崐萁等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員楊瓔等12人
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transcript.whisperx[79].text 謝謝王定宇委員的發言報告院會現在由國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議我們進行表決報告院會我們再一次清點人數請所有議事人員仔細清點
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transcript.whisperx[80].text 報告院會宣布在場委員總共110位報告院會現由民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[81].text 報告院會在場委員110位、贊成人數50人、贊成者少數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[88].text 立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案
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transcript.whisperx[90].text 本院司法及法制委員會報告併案
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transcript.whisperx[93].text 法國院會現在進行第46條請宣讀條文
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transcript.whisperx[99].text 初犯討論實質審查讓我們去無曾經形成共識這才是民主的真諦
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transcript.whisperx[100].text 我們現在審查的第46條提到的其實調閱時間本來原條文就不限於會期內要談論到的其實就是實質的調查權要明定好啦要明定調查權不是不行我們民進黨30年來的主張就是認為
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transcript.whisperx[103].text 尤其黃國昌先生你為我們台灣社會立下了偉君子的標竿你超越了馬英九你成了偉君子的冠軍從今天開始偉君子的代名詞就是黃國昌
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transcript.whisperx[113].text 委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案。
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transcript.whisperx[115].text 報告委員會最新清點人數目前有107位我們委員同仁報告委員會現在進行第46條舉手表決贊成國民黨團、台灣民眾黨團共同所提在修正動議文字請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[116].text 法國院會出席人數107人、贊成59人、贊成者多數法國院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決舉手表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團條文請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[117].text 報告院會出席107位委員、贊成者59人、贊成者多數做以下宣告第46條照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過報告院會現在進行增訂第46條之一請宣讀條文
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transcript.whisperx[119].text 民進黨黨團在修正動議第46條之一調查委員會之成員由各黨團依其在院會所佔席次比例推派之其成員亦得由原推派黨團變更之調查委員會之召集委員二人由其委員會之成員互選之宣讀完畢報告院會現在依登記順序發言首先我們請吳秉瑞委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[120].text 立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案 、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案
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transcript.whisperx[121].text 要對這個立法院可以對人跟對機關做行政處分處以行政罰款大家知道立法院沒有有什麼東西可以證明呢?如果立法院要作為一個做行政處分的機關那應該要接受訴願啊立法院有聽過有訴願委員會嗎?立法院沒有
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transcript.whisperx[122].text 法環的收入要有預算的編列立法院也沒有這樣的預算科目今天修這個法律民國113年創立法院的先例現在對人、對機關、對機構不滿意或是怎麼樣可以處行政法環本來還有刑法
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transcript.whisperx[125].text 這麼重大的議題不用討論在這個地方表決沒有任何說明然後就靠舉手然後這樣子就蒙混過了這如何面對我們這麼重大的議案的這個這樣子的社會現實的狀況呢全國人民能服氣嗎我們或許我的見解不見得百分之百正確你說過去沒有的制度現在可以創設
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transcript.whisperx[126].text 《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、
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transcript.whisperx[127].text 謝謝吳秉瑞委員的發言報告院會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議
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transcript.whisperx[131].text 報告委員會表決結果在場107位贊成59位贊成者多數報告委員會現由民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手舉手
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transcript.whisperx[134].text 現在針對國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議我們現在開始進行表決現由民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對市府採用點名表決現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[138].text 報告院會現在出席人數107位委員贊成59人贊成者多數報告院會現在民進黨黨團提重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團條文請舉手舉手舉手
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transcript.whisperx[139].text 報告現在重複表決結果,在場107位,贊成58位,贊成者多數,作以下宣告,增訂第46條之一,照國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過。報告院會現在休息。
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transcript.whisperx[140].text 在牛委員那邊牛委員那邊
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transcript.whisperx[141].text 國民黨黨團、臺灣民眾黨黨團撤回他們提案,我們不再處理。請宣讀民進黨黨團再修正動議。
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transcript.whisperx[142].text 民進黨黨團在修正動議第46條之二立法院行使調查權不得逾越調查目的、事項與範圍並應尊重其他國家機關受憲法保障獨立行使之職權及行政首長就特定機密決定不予公開之行政特權裁判確定權之訴訟案件就其偵查或審判
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transcript.whisperx[143].text 所為之處置及其卷證、立法院不得行使調查權、尚未確定之訴院事件或其他依法應獨立行使職權之機關本於職權處理中之案件,亦同。調查委員會成立後,其他依法應獨立行使職權之機關亦本於職權進行處理相關案件時,調查委員會得停止調查。宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[144].text 報告委員會現在依登記順序發言首先我們請郭育晴委員請發言你好
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transcript.whisperx[145].text 所有在場所有我們民進黨的同志們還有所有在立法院外面支持我們已經高達三萬人的台灣人民敬愛的台灣人民你們好
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transcript.whisperx[146].text 從二月開議以來,我們看到了藍白兩黨聯手從程序的規則、從議事的杯葛、從程序委員會當中只要是民進黨的提案,他們就亂擋
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transcript.whisperx[147].text 黨一通、包含民眾黨也跟著舉手當他們把最重要的國安的議題、把最重要的民生的法案包含他們把自己本身的民生法案、最重要的再生醫療法
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transcript.whisperx[148].text 也舉手擋掉的時候更荒謬的是他們在台上拍桌說不要再講我們是附隨組織不要再講我們只是小弟我們有自己的主體性回到座位還再舉手問說阿我們民眾黨的提案勒各位 被你們自己擋掉啦因為你們就自己愛擋啊
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transcript.whisperx[149].text 從那個時候到上個禮拜五我們看到了台灣民主最黑暗的一天這麼多的民進黨的同事當他們受傷當他們送醫請問我們的韓國瑜院長你有沒有表達關切你有沒有暫停討論沒有
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transcript.whisperx[150].text 我知道我們的表決也許不會贏但我們的要求很簡單我們的訴求很清楚我們要的是所有不合理的國會擴絕的法案退回沖審逐條討論實質審查我們要的是記名表決協商要公開透明我們要看到
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transcript.whisperx[151].text 議事板上誰的名字誰按下贊成那些國會擴權向中國低頭的名字他們要在歷史上留名我們才能夠記住他們的嘴臉
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transcript.whisperx[152].text 委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲
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transcript.whisperx[153].text 委員拓契被摸頭、背叛太陽花坐在那邊的附隨主持但是我們要求退回沖繩、反黑箱、反擴權!謝謝郭育晴委員發言退回沖繩!退回沖繩!退回沖繩!退回沖繩!
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transcript.whisperx[154].text 報告院會現在由國民黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議有異議我們進行表決請議事人員清點人數
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transcript.whisperx[155].text 報告院會現有欽點人數109位委員同仁報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[157].text 贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[160].text 委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、
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transcript.whisperx[161].text 報告委員會重複表決結果在場109位委員、贊成59人、贊成者多數宣告停止討論通過報告委員會增訂第46條之二我們就無異議照民進黨黨團再修正動議條文通過
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transcript.whisperx[162].text 報告院會現在進行第47條請宣讀條文國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團共提在修正動議第47條調查委員會或調查專案小組未行使調查權的要求政府機關、部隊、法人、團體或社會上有關係人員於5日內提供相關文件、資料及檔案但相關文件、資料及檔案原本業經司法機關或監察機關先為調取時
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transcript.whisperx[163].text 因序名理由並提供副本。調查委員會或調查專案小組未行使調查權與必要時,得詢問相關人員,命其出席為政言,但應於指定期日5日前通知相關人員與指定地點接受詢問。被調閱文件,
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transcript.whisperx[164].text 資料及檔案之政府機關、部隊、法人、團體或社會上有關係人員在調閱期間應指派專人將調閱資料送達立法院指定場所以供參閱由立法院指定指派專人負責保管
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transcript.whisperx[165].text 民進黨黨團在修正動議第四十七條受要求調閱文件或提供其他資料或物件之機關構除依法律或其他正當理由得拒絕外應於五日內提供之但相關文件、資料或物件業經司法機關或監察機關先為調取時機關構應續名理由並提供副本如有正當理由無法提供副本者應說明理由
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transcript.whisperx[166].text 前項提出之期間﹐調查委員會得決議斬言或限縮之﹐但決議限縮之期間不得少於三日﹐機關構有正當理由﹐得請求調查委員會發還調閱之文件﹐或提供之資料或物件﹐宣讀完畢報告委員會現在我們依登記順序發言首先我們請陳培宇委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[167].text 各位場外的台灣人民各位我花蓮的好朋友還有過去跟著我一起上街頭的青少年你們好我要告訴大家昨天晚上已經有一堆爸爸媽媽晚上私訊我
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transcript.whisperx[168].text 立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案
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transcript.whisperx[169].text 就是國民黨的傅昆齊總召我在住在花蓮的時候我就已經認識傅總召他從花蓮一路走進台北現在走進國會變成國民黨的總召而今他還要帶領著全台灣人民走進中華民國當習近平的子民
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transcript.whisperx[170].text 我要告訴大家所有的控訴都是事實可是國民黨、民眾黨你們自己敢不敢承認他的故事讓我來告訴大家他在2009年擔任花蓮縣長的時候因為違反證券交易法案件
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transcript.whisperx[171].text 擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具擬具
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transcript.whisperx[172].text 後來在2018年擔任花蓮縣長的時候他再次被指控在2003年擔任親民黨的立委期間炒作合積電線電纜公司的股票違反證券交易法所有的判刑都已經成立罪名他也為此入監服刑這是國民黨團選出來的總招
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transcript.whisperx[173].text 在更久更久以前他是楷俱、邵東他與當時的台鳳公司負責人黃宗鴻集資炒作四間公司的股票依然判刑確定入監服刑
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transcript.whisperx[174].text 我要說的是這一切一切的故事台灣人民你們可能忘記了可是身在立法院的我們關心台灣民主自由的我們不可以忘記當你們選了這麼一個人
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transcript.whisperx[175].text 作為國民黨的總召還要帶著你們走進中國去當習近平的走狗我想問一問你們敢不敢為自己的選民負責你們敢不敢大聲說出你要捍衛台灣的民主捍衛台灣的自由最後我要說黃國昌你是偽君子但我要請大家不要忘記富坤
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transcript.whisperx[176].text 謝謝陳培宇委員發言報告院會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會
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transcript.whisperx[177].text 下台報告院會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議我們進行表決報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[178].text 報告委員會宣布表決結果在場委員109位贊成49位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[180].text 報告院會在場委員109位、贊成人數58位、贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手舉手
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transcript.whisperx[181].text 報告院會在場委員109位、贊成59位、贊成者多數宣告停止討論通過報告院會現在進行處理第47條依序進行表決如果其中有任何一案通過即不再處理其他案請問院會
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transcript.whisperx[182].text 第四十七條照國民黨黨團、臺灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過有無異議有異議我們現在表決報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決現在我們進行舉手表決
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transcript.whisperx[183].text 贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[184].text 報告院會在場委員109人贊成50人贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[186].text 報告院會在場委員109位表決贊成59位贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團條文請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[187].text 報告委員會在場委員109人、表決贊成人數59人、贊成者多數我們做以下宣告第47條照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過
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transcript.whisperx[188].text 國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團共提在修正動議第48條政府機關或公務人員違反本法規定與立法院調閱文件、資料及檔案時拒絕、拖延或隱匿不提供者得經締法院院會之決議將其移送監察院依法提出糾正、糾舉或彈劾
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transcript.whisperx[189].text 法人、團體或社會上有關係人員違反本法規定與立法院調閱文件、資料及檔案時拒絕拖延或隱匿不提供者得經立法院院會之決議儲新台幣一萬元以上、十萬元以下之罰還並得按次處罰至改正為止前向罰還處分、受處分者如有不符得於處分書送達至次日期二個月內向立法院所在地之行政法院提起行政訴訟
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transcript.whisperx[190].text 民進黨黨團再修正動議第48條機關購予調查委員會行使調查權時無正當理由不得拒絕、拖延、隱匿不提供文件、資料或物件或拒絕出席調查公聽會表達意見違反前項規定者提報院會決議處新台幣1萬元以上、30萬元以下罰還並得按次連續處罰宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[191].text 法院會現在依登記順序委員發言首先我們請范雲委員發言各位關心我們國會黑箱的公民朋友大家晚安時間已經很晚了可是我一定要跟大家報告我們立法院即將表決的這個第48條是一個非常嚴重或權的一個法條
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transcript.whisperx[192].text 他的條文裡面我唸一段給大家聽法人、團體或社會上有關係人員違反本法規定與立法院調閱文件、資料及檔案時拒絕
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transcript.whisperx[193].text 拖延或隱匿不提供者得經立法院院會之決議處新台幣一萬元以上、十萬元以下之罰款並得按次處罰至改正為止這也是歐洲商會為什麼跳出來反對憂心台灣的國會擴權
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transcript.whisperx[194].text 可是我今天更憂心的是人民團體的結社的權益為什麼公司法人還有法務來保障他的權益我們的很多的團體包含我們的媽媽土豐五社包含我們的泡茶論證會
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transcript.whisperx[195].text 包含現在在青島東路發起的這麼多的NGO只要有任何一個立委認為他隱匿資料跟他調稅照、調稅值資料、調財務資料、調會議記錄
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transcript.whisperx[196].text 委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等12人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲
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transcript.whisperx[198].text 我剛剛回到辦公室的路上在天橋上看到年輕人淋著雨他們拿著牌子說我可以淋雨民主不行我想要說他比這裡的藍白的委員還有資格當立法委員
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transcript.whisperx[200].text 可是藍白多數三個月內就沒收了我們的討論
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transcript.whisperx[201].text 國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議我們進行表決現有民進黨黨團建議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決
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transcript.whisperx[202].text 我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[210].text 報告委員會在場委員109位贊成59位贊成者多數報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團條文請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[211].text 報告院會在場委員109人、重複表決贊成人數59人、贊成者多數做以下宣告第48條照國民黨團、台灣民眾黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過報告院會現在進行第49條請宣讀條文
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transcript.whisperx[212].text 國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團共提在修正動議第49條調查委員會所需之工作人員由秘書長指派之調查專案小組所需之工作人員由立法院各委員會或主辦委員會就各該委員會人員中指派之調查委員會及調查專案小組於必要時得請求院長指派專業人員協助之
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transcript.whisperx[213].text 民進黨黨團再修正動議第49條調查委員會所需之工作人員由秘書長指派之調查委員會於必要時得請求院長指派專業人員協助之宣讀完畢報告委員會現在依登記順序發言首先我們請陳樹越委員發言
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transcript.whisperx[214].text 韓院長、各位立法院的同仁還有關心台灣民主政治的所有國人尤其是目前在立法院外臨陣雨關心台灣民主的所有的好朋友們大家晚安我在這裡首先要跟國人報告
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transcript.whisperx[215].text 民主進步黨沒有反對國會改革但所謂的改革應該是要讓立法院的意識更有效率、更民主、更透明但是很遺憾的我們看到這三個月來立法院在藍白多數的主導之下
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transcript.whisperx[216].text 破壞體制、大開民主倒車過去八年民進黨執政我們在立法院多數但是我們在立法院的程序委員會不曾退案但是現在卻發生了民進黨的案子在程序委員會就直接被擋掉了以多數連押少數這種二把的作風難道就是藍白的國會改革嗎
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transcript.whisperx[217].text 在委員會吳宗憲召委所排案、排審的國會改革委員會裡並沒有實質做逐條討論
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transcript.whisperx[218].text 後來都是保留送院會的協商﹚也沒有實質進行這個協商﹚我們民進黨鍾嘉斌召委排審的這個國會改革的案子﹚卻被國民黨提散會動議﹚直接散會、沒收討論、沒收民主﹚難道這就是南白的國會改革嗎﹚
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transcript.whisperx[219].text 沒有經過討論就用舉手表決來處理這個國會改革的這個法案內容如此粗糙的做法這個方式難道就是南白的國會改革嗎我在這邊要強調要跟國人報告的我們今天在上個禮拜五跟今天目前在處理的這個南白為主的這個版本這個國會改革的版本第八章調查權的一個行使
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transcript.whisperx[220].text 這些條文通過之後沒有人可以置身事外他在47條裡面他有提到要求政府、機關、部隊、法人、團體或社會上有關係人員於5日內提供相關文件、資料及檔案若沒有提供者就有相關的罰則、罰款、罰到改正為止
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transcript.whisperx[221].text 《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、《立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案》、
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transcript.whisperx[222].text 王國昌他自己也對媒體說這個修正的動議是他跟翁曉玲進行這個修正論稿的是最高機密這明顯的黑箱是我們所反對的
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transcript.whisperx[223].text 謝謝陳委員的發言謝謝報告院會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議好報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決
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transcript.whisperx[224].text 針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[225].text 報告委員會在場委員109位表決贊成人數47位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[227].text 報告院會在場委員109位、贊成者59位、贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[229].text 請問院會第49條照國民黨黨團、臺灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過有無異議有異議我們現在表決報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[230].text 主席蔣介石議員
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transcript.whisperx[231].text 報告院會在場委員109位、贊成46位、贊成少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[234].text 委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案
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transcript.whisperx[236].text 委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲等16人、委員翁曉玲
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transcript.whisperx[237].text 報告委員會在場委員109位
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transcript.whisperx[238].text 贊成人數58位、贊成者多數作以下宣告第49條照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過報告院會現在休息
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transcript.whisperx[239].text 法國院會我們現在繼續開會現在進行第50條請宣讀條文
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transcript.whisperx[240].text 國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨團共提再修正動議第五十條立法院所調取之文件、資料及檔案信由各該調查委員會、調查專案小組之委員或院長指派之專業人員親自查閱之前向查閱人員對機密文件不得抄錄、攝影、影印、送讀、錄音或為其他複製行為亦不得將文件吸離查閱場所
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transcript.whisperx[241].text 民進黨黨團在《修正動議第五十條》調查委員會所調取之文件、資料或物件現由該調查委員會之委員或院長指派之專業人員親自查閱之前向查閱人員對依法應保密之文件、資料或物件不得抄錄、攝影、影印、誦讀、錄音或為其他複製行為亦不得吸離或傳輸至查閱場所外
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transcript.whisperx[242].text 第一項查閱人員對依法因保密之文件、資料或物件、內容或其存在附有保密之義務其離職後與解密前之期間內一同宣讀完畢報告院會現在依登記順序發言我們首先請沈博洋委員發言加油
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transcript.whisperx[243].text 好那第一個齁我還是要先講一下我們今天喊了一整天的口號就是在說我們要反黑箱反擴權所以呢國民黨一直舉一個牌子說要支持民進黨的法案我要告訴大家就算是民進黨寫的法案就算是我覺得寫的好的法案在沒有討論的時候就不應該過去因為我們要反對的就是黑箱這件事情
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transcript.whisperx[244].text 所以如果一個法條沒有經過討論沒有經過各黨的協議它就不應該進入到二讀我們現在是第五十條我來告訴大家第五十條寫得有多爛第五十條它是在講立法委員調查跟秘密有關事項的一個規範我先來告訴大家不用博士學位就可以知道寫得多爛
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transcript.whisperx[245].text 在任何的法律裡面第一個你就要看第一個如果你要討論就是主體到底是誰有誰可以做第二個他的對象是誰第三個他能夠做什麼第四個做完之後有沒有義務這四件事情只有一件定在第五十條誰可以做這些秘密的調查誰可以去看這些文件有沒有主體的限定有沒有利益的迴避完全沒有
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transcript.whisperx[246].text 第二個對象呢?對象如果是物品的話那又該怎麼辦?
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transcript.whisperx[247].text 結果就只有寫在第三個不能夠抄錄、不能夠洩漏結果完了之後呢?結束了之後呢?它的保密義務有多長?請問寫在哪裡?那麼簡單的一件事情那麼多的要件一個條文都寫不好為什麼會這個樣子?道理很簡單因為這些法條最早最早的時候提出的版本是來自於復坤期的版本
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transcript.whisperx[248].text 相較於我們剛剛講的偽君子傅崐萁是個真小人真小人的特色是什麼我要調查我就是要調查我管你到底有什麼法律的要件有沒有主體的限定所以一開始條文亂七八糟
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transcript.whisperx[249].text 所以這個時候呢他需要一位偽君子來幫他論事把他寫得好一點但這個偽君子又怕怎樣寫得太好了法律的要件太嚴格了他就不能夠擴權了所以就把剛剛我講的要件就只訂了一個在上面這就是他們在開的一台失速列車偽君子跟真小人拜託藍白的立委不要再上這一台失速列車這絕對不是全國人民想要的
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transcript.whisperx[250].text 所以我要告訴兩位偽君子跟真小人如果要負責的話等一下跟我一起去青島東路我來告訴你我可以保護你們來面對人民告訴你們你們到底寫了一個什麼樣侵害人權禍國殃民的法案謝謝謝謝沈博洋委員的發言
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transcript.whisperx[251].text 報告院會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議有異議進行表決請議場人員開始清點人數
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transcript.whisperx[252].text 佈院會現在清點人數現在共有106位委員同仁佈院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[253].text 委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、
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transcript.whisperx[254].text 委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、委員翁曉玲等十五條及第四十四條條文修正草案、
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transcript.whisperx[255].text 報告院會現在場委員106位表決贊成人數47人贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[256].text 報告委員會在場委員106位表決贊成人數48位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過現在針對國民黨黨團提議停止討論進行表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[257].text 報告院會現在宣布在場人數委員106人贊成58人贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手舉手
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transcript.whisperx[258].text 報告委員會在場委員106人、贊成人數59人、贊成者多數現在宣告停止討論通過報告委員會第五十條國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團再修正動議條文、策案我們就不再處理
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transcript.whisperx[259].text 委員翁曉玲等50人、委員翁曉玲等50人、委員翁曉玲等50人、委員翁曉玲等50人、委員翁曉玲等50人、委員翁曉玲等50人、
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transcript.whisperx[260].text 請宣讀條文國民黨黨團及台灣民眾黨黨團共提在修正動力第50條之一調查委員會或調查專案小組至少需三分之一以上委員出席時使得依第47條第二項規定詢問相關人員詢問出
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transcript.whisperx[261].text 詢問須出以懇切之態度﹐不得有強暴、威迫或以其他意導致心理強制的狀態﹐並不得強迫證人為不利己知公訴﹐詢問前應令其宣誓當據實答覆﹐決無逆、針、檢、告以立法院成立本調查委員會或調查專案小組之任務﹐並告知其有拒絕證言之權利及事由﹐前項拒絕證言之事由﹐准用行政訴訟法相關規定
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transcript.whisperx[262].text 接收調查詢問之人員認為調查委員會或調查專案小組已約其職權範圍或涉及法律明定保護之個人隱私而與公共事務無關者應承認理由經會議主席裁示同意後得拒絕證言或交付文件、資料及檔案民進黨黨團在修正動議第五十條之一不予增訂宣讀完畢
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transcript.whisperx[263].text 報告委員會現在依登記順序發言首先我們請鍾嘉斌委員發言主席在場的委員先進今天下著雨外面上萬的年輕人下午就淋著雨這當中或許有你我的朋友或許有他們的小孩我知道我的兒子就在裡面
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transcript.whisperx[264].text 在他給我的LINE當中有一個照片年輕的女孩拿個字牌上面寫我可以淋雨但民主不行他為了民主其他年輕人為了什麼立法院職權行使法總統要來國情報告要不要及時問答年輕人說干我屁事如果說他們擔心的是待會的錢跟法案
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transcript.whisperx[265].text 我兒子今年還沒開始納稅呢他們為什麼要來我要告訴你這些年輕人不是什麼政黨的草不是什麼老師的蔥但是我確定當中很多人十年前他們響應某個英雄的號召來到這裡今天他們到這裡繼續包圍立法院是為了要聲討這個叛徒
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transcript.whisperx[266].text 但是其他的年輕人第一次來是為了什麼因為從上個星期開始雖然這部立法院職權行使法是由幾個博士操刀誠如剛剛鋪馬所說他這裡面把第八章本來的文件調閱權變成了調查權把第九章我們的公聽會變成了聽證會
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transcript.whisperx[267].text 年輕人又念法律的裡面這裡的調查權可以對人民刻意行責嗎?這裡面的聽證權可以對拒絕草案的人民駕以處罰嗎?年輕人也知道啊當然這幾位博士也知道於是從上週五開始他們的條文開始轉彎了開始不一樣了開始把一些明顯的誤謬開始修起來了
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transcript.whisperx[268].text 就拿這個50條之一來好了他寫得不好嗎?沒有他寫得不錯因為他終於把抄給美國聽證制度當中我們可以告知他有拒絕證詞的權利他終於寫進去了但是我會支持嗎?我不會支持因為他沒有問過人民他是黑槍他沒有討論
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transcript.whisperx[269].text 委員翁曉玲等16人分別擬具:「立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文修正草案、立法院職權行使法部分條文
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transcript.whisperx[270].text 一隻狼他收起了牙、收起了爪他脫下了羊皮他還是一隻不擇不割的大野狼年輕人黑箱審查我們拒絕黑箱我們要重複審查謝謝鍾嘉賓委員的發言報告委員會現有國民黨黨團提議停止討論請問院會有無異議
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transcript.whisperx[271].text 有意義我們進行表決報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決針對是否採用點名表決我們現在進行舉手表決贊成民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[272].text 報告院會出席委員在場106位贊成49位贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[273].text 報告委員會在場委員106位,表決贊成人數49位,贊成者少數,民進黨黨團提議不通過報告委員會現在針對國民黨黨團提議停止討論進行表決,贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[274].text 報告院會在場委員106位贊成、59位贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[275].text 報告委員會出席在場委員106人、贊成者59人、贊成者多數宣告停止討論通過報告委員會現在進行處理增訂第50條之一依序進行表決如果其中有任何一案通過即不再處理其他案
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transcript.whisperx[276].text 報告院會徵訂第五十條之一,照國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提再修正動議條文通過,有無異議?有異議,我們現在表決報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議採用點名表決,針對是否採用點名表決,現在進行舉手表決,贊成
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transcript.whisperx[277].text 民進黨黨團提議請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[278].text 報告委員會在場委員106人贊成47人贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告委員會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決我們現在進行舉手重複表決贊成民進黨黨團點名表決提議者請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[279].text 報告委員會現在宣布在場人數106人、贊成人數48人、贊成者少數民進黨黨團提議不通過報告委員會現在民進黨黨團提議要求清點在場人數請議事人員再次清點在場人數
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transcript.whisperx[280].text 報告院會新清點在場委員共計106位委員報告院會現在進行增訂第50條之一舉手表決贊成國民黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團再修正動議條文請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[281].text 報告院會在場委員人數106人、贊成者58人、贊成者多數報告院會現有民進黨黨團提議重複表決現在進行舉手重複表決贊成國民黨、台灣民眾黨兩黨團條文請舉手
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transcript.whisperx[282].text 報告院會現在宣布在場委員人數106人、贊成59人、贊成者多數做以下宣告增訂第50條之一照國民黨黨團、台灣民眾黨黨團共同所提在修正動議條文通過報告院會現在已經臨近晚上12點如果再處理後續
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transcript.whisperx[283].text 我們將會超過12點因此本次會議進行到此為止本案作以下決議增訂第50條之二以下條文下次會議我們繼續進行二讀各位委員辛苦一天了祝福大家晚安現在散會