| IVOD_ID |
159467 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159467 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-36-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
36 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
司法及法制委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T11:59:55+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T12:08:26+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:08:31 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb02fb0ad8cf03ca79e4aa23c349ee8e6936c2779210393a151747f46cb97eb1dba5ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
伍麗華Saidhai Tahovecahe |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:59:55 - 12:08:26 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期司法及法制委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請行政院人事行政總處人事長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。） |
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謝謝主席 有請任市長這張最讚 來 請任市長委員長任市長 午安喔我今天的夜報上面有看到我們行政院人事總署非常關心有提到持續督促各機關依法足而禁用原住民及身心障礙人員特別是我們最新的數據 |
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表示禁用原住民呢比率高達521%那這代表著說很多的機關單位其實都有蠻多的原住民的人員公務員在遍佈那為了代表我們的族群主流化我是希望說是不是也有做一個分類的資料就是把原住民的事務機關 |
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跟非原住民的事務機關有沒有分開來的一個資料讓我們可以了解到目前這個族群主流化有沒有深入到我們全國各個行政機關那這是第一個那那個人事長我其實今天來是要幫忙關心園民會 |
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因為園民會 您應該很清楚它的業務包山包海不僅僅是從山上到海邊它還有教育的 文化的 內政的 地政的 社福的包括經濟 衛生 福利 甚至速發 它都有關心就只缺一個國防部 可以說是一個小內閣那以它的這個編制員額不到200人來講 |
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其實我們會替他很擔心因為這個機器很龐大遍佈全國所以呢 原民會其實對我們來講真的是我們最重要最高的一個原住民事務機關他很需要人力但是 任市長您應該很清楚我們前陣子 宣騰一時的 |
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就是原民會狠狠的被砍了7%的一個人力那就是16個族群委員被砍掉 您知道嗎我知道 所以你們有提41個人的爭言是 所以我要提的就是說當時我看到原民會的官網還大剌剌的PO了一個文章叫做原住民族權益不容踐踏 |
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上面還特別提到減少本會編制傷害自治發展等等然後提到說制度可以檢討體制可以革新但不歡迎這種報復式的修法但我們都很清楚確實 |
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我們整個看起來就是為了要來癱瘓為了要毀憲亂政 不容易執政那現在我講一句實在話 原民會還表達他的立場咧他還說他要復議 要來申請釋憲 絕對不容許那請教一下任市長 原民會有這樣子做嗎那我跟您講 我看起來是沒有 |
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沒有所以我們希望說這個部分我們總是還是要走我們希望我們的機關能夠正常所以我在這邊就是特別要提到少了這些人力光是我們的文件站全國有580多個未來可能會增加到七八百個 |
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以前這些業務包括原家中心很多很多遍布在全國各地的業務都要有人去視察去輔導但是硬生生被砍了所以我想這個部分我希望任市長您能夠支持好不好 |
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那個我們在2月27要收到延民會來的請證延合的需求事實上最近我們都會很高密度的跟曾主委還有杜章副主委三位副主委在談這個整個人力需求基本上我們會分階段來和給市長的一個所以任市長您會支持對不對 |
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259.54 |
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284.327 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
我們會核實因為我們還要會相關機關的意見那另外我也是要提到原民會長期以來的困境就是留不住人您要知道我們很多原特考進來的他如果分發在原民會分發在渡會地區他們滿了三年滿了六年三年他們會先回鄉然後滿六年 |
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285.607 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
312.069 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
他們更希望的是去有原鄉家籍 山地家籍的地方服務這個你應該很清楚所以我先請教一下就沒有誘因嘛所以如果說我們反過來講對於這些我們要培育的原住民的這些事務官有可能給他們生活家籍嗎在都會地區的生活津貼嗎有可能嗎 |
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315.859 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
323.366 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
這個議題是不是允許我們整體去考量因為他們光是住在都會地區一萬五以上就沒了他們滿三年都急著趕快回去 |
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324.641 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
351.423 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
因為我跟原住民朋友非常熟 是所以我想跟人事長說如果可以最好但是還有一個方法就是有沒有辦法給園民會更多的員額而且是中高階的員額讓他們有一個升遷的管道至少他會留在園民會至少他為了要升遷他至少會留個十年以上 |
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352.404 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
370.101 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
就流動率就不會那麼高我坦白跟委員講齁我接任市長之後在台東縣的人事處長跟花蓮縣人事處長都是用原住民的同胞一個是布農族一個是台灣族不是 |
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372.953 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
384.563 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
我是非常重視這個區塊不是用嘴巴講我是用行動那花蓮還有一個檢任的職缺也是請原住民的同胞來謝謝那現在園民會呢 |
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386.26 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].end |
409.531 |
| transcript.whisperx[17].text |
原民會他本身我們長期就跟他配合的非常好所以我們增加員額然後我希望這個員額你至少給他們例如像7到9值等多一點因為他們回到原鄉鄉公署服務沒有什麼值等這個是官規官制我不能隨便答應你而且人力的增補我們也要會行政院相關單位那委員的 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].start |
410.694 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].end |
434.427 |
| transcript.whisperx[18].text |
意見我聽進去了好 謝謝任市長那這個部分就拜託您了那另外一個部分就是簡單的跟您提一下我也想聽聽看您的專業建議因為原民特考大家都知道長年它的開缺數跟它的分發人數有很大的一個落差這個您應該很清楚對不對所以大家也都在檢討 |
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435.487 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].end |
462.252 |
| transcript.whisperx[19].text |
所以我舉個例子現在我們有原住民族語言發展法上面他說要有語推人員但是我們用專案處理例如我們的幼教照顧法它有提到互助中心的族語教保員但是我們用專案計畫處理例如我們現在推動的長照它上面呢文件站的造福員也是用專案計畫處理我的意思是說其實還有很多的例子可以舉 |
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463.172 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].end |
484.747 |
| transcript.whisperx[20].text |
有沒有可能 既然這些是長期的計畫而且是未來社會發展所需要的一個長期的人力任市長 您覺得有沒有可能增加這一些類別考科我想我們再來跟研民會好好的溝通這一塊的所以您覺得 您可以提供專業的建議我們怎麼樣導向對不對 |
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487.388 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].end |
499.197 |
| transcript.whisperx[21].text |
我會跟顏明慧一起來討論好那就希望我們任總這邊就是經過今天這樣的一個質詢也能夠先給我在兩個禮拜內先給一份告報告可以嗎好OK好謝謝謝謝任市長謝謝主席好謝謝吳立華委員接下來請岳元之岳元之委員 |