| IVOD_ID |
159466 |
| IVOD_URL |
https://ivod.ly.gov.tw/Play/Clip/1M/159466 |
| 日期 |
2025-03-20 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼 |
委員會-11-3-19-3 |
| 會議資料.會議代碼:str |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 會議資料.屆 |
11 |
| 會議資料.會期 |
3 |
| 會議資料.會次 |
3 |
| 會議資料.種類 |
委員會 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼[0] |
19 |
| 會議資料.委員會代碼:str[0] |
經濟委員會 |
| 會議資料.標題 |
第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議 |
| 影片種類 |
Clip |
| 開始時間 |
2025-03-20T11:57:33+08:00 |
| 結束時間 |
2025-03-20T12:03:23+08:00 |
| 影片長度 |
00:05:50 |
| 支援功能[0] |
ai-transcript |
| video_url |
https://ivod-lyvod.cdn.hinet.net/vod_1/_definst_/mp4:1MClips/51071748fba5feb04a52cd2df468d3cd56c3f89dc79e7a256c2779210393a151e7bc962e133d59975ea18f28b6918d91.mp4/playlist.m3u8 |
| 委員名稱 |
洪孟楷 |
| 委員發言時間 |
11:57:33 - 12:03:23 |
| 會議時間 |
2025-03-20T09:00:00+08:00 |
| 會議名稱 |
立法院第11屆第3會期經濟委員會第3次全體委員會議（事由：邀請經濟部部長列席報告業務概況，並備質詢。【3月19日及20日二天一次會】） |
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好 主席謝謝麻煩請郭部長郭部長 |
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好 國務部長 只有4分鐘喔不過還是簡要的跟你質詢一下就是能源是國安議題我想大家也都重視能源為什麼之前一直講是說一定要操之在己那最近又再傳出因為你之前提過說菲律賓重電這樣的一個訊息也改口了 |
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但最近又在傳出說是可行性評估已經完成是不是來我先確認一下兩件事如果說真的經濟部目前規劃或是台電公司目前規劃要跟菲律賓買電的話是要跟菲律賓的原有的電力公司買還是要跟台商在那邊投資的電力公司買 |
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報告委員都不是以上皆非好那怎麼樣第一個先看那個地方適不適合發展綠能的電力比如說有沒有這個土地啊土地夠不夠土地到底夠不夠能夠做這個太陽能光電或者是做這個 |
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就是土地的問題嗎來再來所以我們可行性評估已經算過了是這個兩種那邊有足夠的土地足夠的土地有沒有那有沒有辦法把這個成本壓低目前看起來成本一度墊是五塊五以上嗎不是我們的可行性評估一度墊發展出來一定是兩塊以內好 |
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那再來你現在講是說兩塊以內但本席剛剛問的問題在於是說是跟現有菲律賓的電力公司買還是誰發電我們讓國內的讓國內的做這個光電的廠商跟做這個陸域風電的廠商 |
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我們會幫助他擴展台灣市場是希望國內的廠商到菲律賓去圈地發電然後再把那個電發出來之後賣回來給台灣原則是這樣但是地是由經濟部幫助他們找更大的地跟菲律賓官方來談我們跟菲律賓的官方正在進行這方面的研究 |
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所以現在是接觸到什麼程度了現在接觸的到就是我們還是在做可行性評估的階段已經評估完了認為可行的開始要進入實境調查我們現在的綠電在台灣的發電成本相對來講是高的那其中很大的一個部分是我們的零組件都是從哪一些國家進口 |
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我們的零組件一部分是國內生產一部分從境外是,哪些國家境外的國家大概現在中國、越南、泰國我們有接受中國大陸的零組件嗎我們不准中國進來是啊,那這樣你怎麼剛會講說有中國的零組件我是外國的供應鏈有在中國的,也有在越南的但是我們能夠接受的進口的零組件主要還是泰國跟越南嗎是的 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].start |
196.727 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].end |
215.614 |
| transcript.whisperx[9].text |
那全世界這個我其實之前就諮詢過囉我說全世界裡面來講中國大陸確實不可諱言他們的光電發電的零組件或是技術相對成熟能源是選擇但是因為我們國家有國安的相關疑慮所以我們不准中國大陸進口但菲律賓咧 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].start |
217.25 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].end |
233.662 |
| transcript.whisperx[10].text |
菲律賓他百分之多少是用中國大陸的零組件我們現在這樣子報告委員所以我才講嘛所以我們大概就是買電發你不要先不要轉移焦點我先請教是說菲律賓發電現在有多少是中國大陸零組件這個我不清楚 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].start |
234.122 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].end |
248.118 |
| transcript.whisperx[11].text |
你不清楚我們沒有同仁現在我們一個經濟部部長要到菲律賓那麼重要的國家講說我們的能源政策是要到菲律賓買電結果不清楚說菲律賓有多少是用中國大陸的零組件來做發電 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].start |
249.7 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].end |
277.93 |
| transcript.whisperx[12].text |
委員你這樣的這個質詢那你知不知道那這樣子我就要更嚴重懷疑我現在很聚焦啊不是部長那我現在嚴重懷疑您知不知道2024年菲律賓有馬尼拉電力公司他還跟中國大陸的中國電力建設集團簽約有工程採購跟施工的合約我們跟他沒有關係啦不是菲律賓有那麼多好所以我現在很直接的請教跟 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].start |
278.71 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].end |
290.489 |
| transcript.whisperx[13].text |
要求你的溝通或是你的這個未來的規劃裡面台灣的廠商到菲律賓去做發電會不會用到中國大陸的零組件不可能 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].start |
291.611 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].end |
317.623 |
| transcript.whisperx[14].text |
會在合約裡面明白確定我沒有跟他什麼合約但是我如果買電的時候我就會你就會要求嘛跟國內一樣嘛跟我們台灣國內一樣跟國內一樣對不對當然這是本席站在這邊要捍衛我們台灣的一個權益就是要求經濟部提出來即便是未來有任何規劃到菲律賓你也不能用中國大陸的零組件 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].start |
319.503 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].end |
347.329 |
| transcript.whisperx[15].text |
國內台灣的境內的規定是一模一樣的當然因為以我專業的報告他們的零組件是有安全上面的問題非常好所以我們不會用本席就是要經濟部長徹底的承諾在公開的經濟委員會裡面徹底承諾就是即便是我們有台灣的廠商到菲律賓投資也不能因為在海外而用中國大陸的零組件是的謝謝委員謝謝我們有這個機會 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].start |
349.094 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].end |
349.114 |
| transcript.whisperx[16].text |
好,謝謝 |